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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 12:45:20 PM   
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In my case I capitalize Daddy because it's being used as his name. And nouns, person place or things, and names get capitalized in use of good grammar. Not that I am any good at grammar but I do try to use it as far as I know how to.
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ORIGINAL: RemoteUser

For written purpose I don't really care if someone uses capitals or slashes. I've used them before in the past, they suited the place I was at. They don't work here and I'm indifferent, so I don't use them.

I do think if a person is being heartfelt or creative, they deserve a little slack. If my girl calls me Daddy (capitalized) it's because it comes natural to her. It's how she chooses to express herself. I don't think she has ever once called me "RemoteUser" - she's more likely to say "darling" or plain old "Todd", and I'm fine with either because I can hear what it means to her, in her voice. I also see it in her eyes when we are together. Likewise with creativity, if I wrote a poem and capitalized the word Time it's an emphasis, and to hell with grammar.

We're all guilty of judging written words by presentation, not just content. If you can look past it, though, sometimes you see something worth reading. (Not always, but it costs nothing to try.)

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 12:47:07 PM   
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I'm a lover of languages and I feel that those rules should be applied whenever possible.

As a result, I find the whole "alphabet soup" thing to be pretty disagreeable.

When I was in kindergarten, I was taught that you always capitalize your name and the personal pronoun "I" because " ... you're the most important person in the world (to you)." So, that's the whole non-capitalization for "s" types right out the window for me.

A dominant, capitalizing personal pronouns for themselves always struck me the same way the OP seems to feel; a little "silly and self-promotional" So, I don't engage in that behavior, myself.

I will admit that I notice (and generally take a negative opinion of) people that capitalize their own name/personal pronouns and can't be asked to capitalize my name. Again, though, it has more to do with language/common courtesy than it does with this lifestyle.



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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 12:47:24 PM   
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p.s. I wouldn't assume that a Dominant who enjoys capitalizing words that refer to themselves is necessarily egotistical. I consider it protocol which is akin more to respect. A Dominant may or may not be egotistical regardless of whether they are capping or not. I feel that is a separate determination and one that cannot be gleaned from the written protocol one uses.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 12:49:32 PM   
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In some people, I think it is just their way.

In others, I think they are pompous blowhards who capitalize anything that might possibly refer to them, and use that atrocious slashy-speak, and worst of all, apply the caps to the slashy speak, like this: anyO/one

I mean seriously... anyOne? really? REALLY???

What I think is really funny is the ones who don't even do the slashy "right" (as if there's a right way to do it). For instance, the pronoun "we". Since they use it to refer to their dominant and themself, and the dominant is ALWAYS part of the "we", then it should just be "We", not "W/we". The slash stands for "or". So "he/she" means "he or she". If you're capping "we", then there is never a case to NOT cap it when referring to your dom, and therefore no cause for "We or we"

Respect has zero to do with capitalization of non-proper nouns or pronouns, in my world.




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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 12:53:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

In my case I capitalize Daddy because it's being used as his name. And nouns, person place or things, and names get capitalized in use of good grammar. Not that I am any good at grammar but I do try to use it as far as I know how to.

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ORIGINAL: RemoteUser

For written purpose I don't really care if someone uses capitals or slashes. I've used them before in the past, they suited the place I was at. They don't work here and I'm indifferent, so I don't use them.

I do think if a person is being heartfelt or creative, they deserve a little slack. If my girl calls me Daddy (capitalized) it's because it comes natural to her. It's how she chooses to express herself. I don't think she has ever once called me "RemoteUser" - she's more likely to say "darling" or plain old "Todd", and I'm fine with either because I can hear what it means to her, in her voice. I also see it in her eyes when we are together. Likewise with creativity, if I wrote a poem and capitalized the word Time it's an emphasis, and to hell with grammar.

We're all guilty of judging written words by presentation, not just content. If you can look past it, though, sometimes you see something worth reading. (Not always, but it costs nothing to try.)

~ DumDumDom, caps-happy and looking for rum



I know what you mean. I do make a conscious effort to write "by the rules" and for the most part, I succeed. There are just times when something else feels right - yanno?

Names, titles, emotional attachments, they all tend to get caps. Heck, I call my girl Princess - with a capital P - to emphasize what she is to me. Princess, in this case, means a beautiful, thoughtful, articulate and wonderful woman who also likes to be reminded that she's a good girl (and she is, often). It doesn't matter that she's a submissive, what matters is that she is the woman I love and admire.

Whatever works for you, enjoy!

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 12:56:38 PM   
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I think the new standard should be the Subs name is capitalized, and the doms name is left tiny. Cause Subs actually rule the world ya know.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 12:58:54 PM   
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When I first started, both in rl and online I was concerned with a lot of shit that I couldn't give a fuck about now.
I have met people in rl and online, some deserve respect, some don't in my opinion and that respect has shit nothing
to do with their role, their title or anything else beyond who they are as humans.

Besides, I can be an asshole and if you are acting like an asshat and demand anything from me, I'll probably
just poke, provoke, ignore or taunt you for the fuck of it.

Besides, my profile name is all caps, because the "C" and the "LXVI" were supposed to be and I
wasn't paying attention when I typed it in... so I am either really fucking egotistical, yelling at you or just a dumbass.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 1:02:21 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

When I first started, both in rl and online I was concerned with a lot of shit that I couldn't give a fuck about now.
I have met people in rl and online, some deserve respect, some don't in my opinion and that respect has shit nothing
to do with their role, their title or anything else beyond who they are as humans.

Besides, I can be an asshole and if you are acting like an asshat and demand anything from me, I'll probably
just poke, provoke, ignore or taunt you for the fuck of it.

Besides, my profile name is all caps, because the "C" and the "LXVI" were supposed to be and I
wasn't paying attention when I typed it in... so I am either really fucking egotistical, yelling at you or just a dumbass.


So which one is it? LOL

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 1:04:16 PM   
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If you don't know I'm not going to tell you... see I learned something from being married.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 1:08:54 PM   
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I am going with both.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 2:21:58 PM   
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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 4:42:59 PM   
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Have you noticed lately that there is a LOT less of that Y/y stuff than in prior years? I really think it is falling out of favor (YAY)


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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins
i have also seen some people writing in the generic sence put Y/you, Y/your, and so on. each to their own, but i couldn't be bothered to write in such a way.
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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 4:56:48 PM   
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I vote for egotistical with a healthy side of pomposity.

< Message edited by LizDeluxe -- 9/21/2012 4:57:41 PM >

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 5:12:35 PM   
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I think the whole capitalization thing came about when the internet arrived, as a way to show who was on what side of the kneel. I can understand that. But as for the respect thing, it goes both ways, I have to give it to get it.

As for me, I don't do the capitalization thing on words referring to dominants and/or lowercase for submissives & slaves. Sometimes I will capitalize the word "Dominant" itself but not always. I never capitalize "me" and "mine." If someone else does, it's no big deal to me. To each her or his own. But, the S/slashy S/speak and the third-person slavespeak stuff just really bugs the shit out of me!! But it seems like there's less of the S/slashy stuff and slavespeak around nowadays than before.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 5:35:10 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LaTigresse

I am going with both.


But I listed three options...

See, it doesn't matter if you capitalize or not, you still can't get any damned respect around here.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/21/2012 9:38:06 PM   
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I hate the caps button so much I've torn it off my keyboards

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/22/2012 4:30:15 AM   
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OP - as others have said, do what works for you. I don't think someone is pompous just because they cap their promouns. I think they are pompous when they give me a lecture insisting that I do! Then we are probably done talking.

As to thirdperson speach - i am not Gorean at all. But if I am deeply subspaced, at certain times, I have a hard time forming words. At those times, I find it a little easier to speak in third person than in first person, I don't really know why, just know it works that way. Still won't get much out of me, though. Some former masters might say it's the only way to shut me up.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/22/2012 5:32:46 AM   
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i have always written in lower case online except in reference to a Dominant, Master and first names with the exception of submissive's who use lower case in their name.
i also have always used purple font long before i came to CM.

it simply comes down to being respectful in how you communicate more than upper/lower case.


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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/22/2012 6:36:06 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressKel
I'm new to the online BDSM community and I have noticed that some Doms/Dommes tend to capitalize pronouns that reference themselves--me, my, mine and so forth...


I used to use lower case when referring to myself. I stopped because I decided it was weird and sort of unhealthy. That's not meant to be a judgement on anyone else.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/22/2012 8:27:11 AM   
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I've tried it in the past. It didn't really suit me. In the end, I think I would have to claw my eyes out if I didn't capitalize properly according to the rules of the English language. It's like nails on a chalkboard (to do it on purpose, anyway).

I find it annoying to read, in the same way that I find "text speak" annoying to read. But if it suits a couple to do so, then good for them.

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