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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/22/2012 10:26:15 PM   
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I remember all of those. I got my first computer in 1995 and was on bdsm sites from the very beginning starting with Prodigy. What fun. lol


I was only two years after you, but then, I didn't even really understand or identify with BDSM until 1997 or so. That's when I met my first sub, and she taught me everything. (You learn way more from subs, and hell yes, the hands on was far more informative than a dry read.) I built our second computer just before Windows 98 was released, so it was using an Amiga keyboard with the HD built in; then a proper tower when Win98 came out. We hit the IRC, BBS boards, MUSH/MUD-coded telnet areas with a passion.

That was when the use of caps was growing from a fad (and admittedly, from where we were in Canada Gor came on the same way, only several years afterwards). I learned how to use it well, but never felt I had to. It was courtesy because that was how people chose to talk at the time. "W/we" was one instance, and only particular as I recall to the "newer" chat rooms; but everyone from time immemorial capped Dom/me to my recollection.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 6:30:03 AM   
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A lot of D/s people I meet online use caps not only as a sign of respect, but also to denote who is whom in the relationship. I personally see it in those terms, but also as a way to further separate from "vanilla" way of communicating, to enhance the D/s experience...to "wrap oneself in the moment", so to speak. We are in this to "ESCAPE", are we not?
I don't usually bother with W/we or U/us but I accept seeing it either way. If I'm going to start nit-picking about others' D/s, I can certainly think of more worthy things to go after.
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No, we are not.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 6:36:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have been into whatever THIS is since I was a teen and I never once felt compelled to use caps or slashes to communicate. I don't believe I need to "show" respect that way nor do I believe my being submissive should allow a stranger to expect me to.

I would far prefer people who write me to use proper spelling and creative introductions beyond Hi.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 9:55:48 AM   
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I would far prefer people who write me to use proper spelling and creative introductions beyond Hi.


Have to completely agree with that.

Also like to add, that I see it as part of a relationship dynamic, so if you write to me or put up a post where you ignore grammar rules to involve me in your kink, I'm going to roll my eyes at you.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 10:30:03 AM   
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I think the whole capitalization thing came about when the internet arrived, as a way to show who was on what side of the kneel.


In IRC or another chat venue I can understand the whole caps thing since orientation (and even gender) is not always evident or is misleading. Here in these forums it's unnecessary.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 1:59:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the whole unwritten rules of "protocol" are complete and total BS. D/s is a journey of exploring and learning to relate to another human being --- not pigeonholing someone else into a moronic collections of dos and don'ts.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 2:32:03 PM   
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Protocol, whether the capping of names or real life etiquette, is always attacked in the modern era as absurd, an empty ritual devoid of meaning.

But consider that our actions and words convey meaning, far beyond their literal content.

One of the more attractive features of BDSM for me is its emphasis on symbolic gesture and language; The true and accurate meaning of our speech is conveyed by our bodies and tone, and vocabulary and syntax.
Even our clothing sends messages about our power and status, our sense of self and place in the social hierarchy.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 4:45:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

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ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl
I think the whole capitalization thing came about when the internet arrived, as a way to show who was on what side of the kneel.


In IRC or another chat venue I can understand the whole caps thing since orientation (and even gender) is not always evident or is misleading. Here in these forums it's unnecessary.

I agree.


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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 5:05:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use caps when typing the word "Me" out of habit now. I used to do it all the time but the importance of it has diminished over time, with me anyway.
As far as proper punctuation and such, when emailing members from the forums, I will admit I do not use proper punctuation. That's horrible I know, but I guess laziness wins that battle.

But back to the original topic, I don't really have an issues with those who don't or do use caps or slashes. I can understand what they are trying to say either way.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 5:33:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Pivoting the thread sideways-

Protocol, whether the capping of names or real life etiquette, is always attacked in the modern era as absurd, an empty ritual devoid of meaning.

But consider that our actions and words convey meaning, far beyond their literal content.

One of the more attractive features of BDSM for me is its emphasis on symbolic gesture and language; The true and accurate meaning of our speech is conveyed by our bodies and tone, and vocabulary and syntax.
Even our clothing sends messages about our power and status, our sense of self and place in the social hierarchy.



Yes! Thank you. That's what I was trying to say in my post but my typing due to memory problems lately seems to suck. I'm just gonna wait till others say the same thing I want to say and just agree.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/23/2012 10:18:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		When I first began my journey of discovery as a dominant man, I learned of and strictly followed the capitalization convention. Over time, I found it more cumbersome than anything. I'm a big believer in analyzing traditions and dropping those that don't make life easier or more fulfilling. I couldn't honestly say capitalizing everything related to dom stuff did either, so I stopped. As with most things, though, to each his/her own.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 4:47:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have my girl capitalize my name, the S in "Sir" and the d in "Daddy". I also have her write i with a small "i". It is all (that is what I like ). For me, I just spell normally (or try to anyway).
There are no standards, but it was very useful in the alt chatroom back then and in the basement as well.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 9:57:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

Pivoting the thread sideways-

Protocol, whether the capping of names or real life etiquette, is always attacked in the modern era as absurd, an empty ritual devoid of meaning.

But consider that our actions and words convey meaning, far beyond their literal content.

One of the more attractive features of BDSM for me is its emphasis on symbolic gesture and language; The true and accurate meaning of our speech is conveyed by our bodies and tone, and vocabulary and syntax.
Even our clothing sends messages about our power and status, our sense of self and place in the social hierarchy.



For some people yes. For other people no. In very shallow and unreliable ways.

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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 10:12:56 AM   
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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 10:44:30 AM   
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Protocol, whether the capping of names or real life etiquette, is always attacked in the modern era as absurd, an empty ritual devoid of meaning.


Capping or not capping of names has existed for less than 20 years and is an invention of the "modern era".


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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 10:52:39 AM   
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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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Protocol, whether the capping of names or real life etiquette, is always attacked in the modern era as absurd, an empty ritual devoid of meaning.


Capping or not capping of names has existed for less than 20 years and is an invention of the "modern era".


Could you please provide a source for this, as I am 40 years old and was taught to capitalize my name in 1977 (well over twenty years ago).


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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 10:57:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LizDeluxe

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ORIGINAL: NiceButMeanGirl
I think the whole capitalization thing came about when the internet arrived, as a way to show who was on what side of the kneel.


In IRC or another chat venue I can understand the whole caps thing since orientation (and even gender) is not always evident or is misleading. Here in these forums it's unnecessary.


Quite. Certainly your pic leaves little doubt as to your gender ;-)

Phwoar!


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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 11:00:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RemoteUser


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


Protocol, whether the capping of names or real life etiquette, is always attacked in the modern era as absurd, an empty ritual devoid of meaning.


Capping or not capping of names has existed for less than 20 years and is an invention of the "modern era".


Could you please provide a source for this, as I am 40 years old and was taught to capitalize my name in 1977 (well over twenty years ago).



Errmm... she is referring to the capitalisation rules that are being discussed here... Not the grammar rules us old geezers were taught to scratch out on our slates back in the pre-interwebz era.


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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 11:05:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml


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ORIGINAL: RemoteUser


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


Protocol, whether the capping of names or real life etiquette, is always attacked in the modern era as absurd, an empty ritual devoid of meaning.


Capping or not capping of names has existed for less than 20 years and is an invention of the "modern era".


Could you please provide a source for this, as I am 40 years old and was taught to capitalize my name in 1977 (well over twenty years ago).


Errmm... she is referring to the capitalisation rules that are being discussed here... Not the grammar rules us old geezers were taught to scratch out on our slates back in the pre-interwebz era.


Gotcha, thanks.


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RE: Capping Self Reference Pronouns- Ego or Respect? - 9/24/2012 11:07:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml

grammar rules us old geezers were taught to scratch out on our slates back in the pre-interwebz era.



There was a PRE-INTERWEBZ ERA!!?!?

How did you talk to people back then?

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