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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 8:19:05 AM   
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the agree with obama...destruction of isreal. you have no concept of what liberal means.....here is a hint, it doenst mean freedom here in america.


I think you meant then. If there is war because of Obama that comes before or after he leaves office and the Jews voted for Obama, yes the thought did occur to me: Fuck Israel.

I do not have as low opinion of liberals as you do since to me liberals are another variety of conservative as I've pointed out in another thread. It will mean freedom to those who indulge in smoking a certain plant product. Please work out exactly what you mean by freedom. Freedom from addictive substances? Having women cover themselves makes some sense too. It means a world free of having to think about sex all the time. In the West we don't have that luxury. We must see women for what they really are, in your face all the time, as sex objects.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 8:36:53 AM   
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Perhaps freedom is the freedom to see a doctor or maybe it is the freedom to politely die when your time comes. The word freedom in itself is a wax nose. Freedom from what exactly? Freedom to not see your flag burned? Freedom to not see your consulate attacked and its ambassador murdered?

The President was concerned with not doing violence to the Middle East, but did he consider that violence was done to the American people?

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 9:03:49 AM   
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I almost didn't notice you vincentML and perhaps I should have failed to notice since it is disturbing. You uttered a blasphemy or at least that was my impression. I won't quote you. I will address the alleged blasphemy. To appreciate Christianity one must have faith. Seen through the blind eye of the world what you wrote makes some sense. If you want to see polytheism, if you seek evidence for it, you will find it because you are lacking in an essential ingredient that permits you to see. May God have mercy on your soul.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 9:34:50 AM   
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If Obama should win, it could mean war and not peace for the aforementioned reason. They will do what they can to embarrass the administration because it is liberal and they hate liberals.


Perhaps they hate both liberals and conservatives who fuck with them? Whadyathimk?

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 9:36:10 AM   
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the agree with obama...destruction of isreal. you have no concept of what liberal means.....here is a hint, it doenst mean freedom here in america.


Perhaps you could tell us what you think liberal means?

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 9:51:59 AM   
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If you seek evidence, you will find it.

The Word of God

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 9:57:24 AM   
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Having women cover themselves makes some sense too. It means a world free of having to think about sex all the time. In the West we don't have that luxury. We must see women for what they really are, in your face all the time, as sex objects.


What about having men cover themselves? It means a world free of women having too think about sex all the time. We must see men for what they really are, in your face all the time, as sex objects.


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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 9:57:44 AM   
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Perhaps they hate both liberals and conservatives who ...


I think the Iranians have a special place reserved for liberals. For them I believe a conservative is an enemy they can relate to. A conservative American is at least worth saving.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 10:03:41 AM   
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Plenty of men want to be seen as sex objects. Why shouldn't those men cover themselves?

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 11:56:59 AM   
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Perhaps they hate both liberals and conservatives who fuck with them.


I think the Iranians have a special place reserved for liberals. For them I believe a conservative is an enemy they can relate to. A conservative American is at least worth saving.


Could you please tell us about your last visit to iran?

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 11:58:19 AM   
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Plenty of men want to be seen as sex objects. Why shouldn't those men cover themselves?

Perhaps because I want to bee seen as a sex object and not just another three digit iq.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 11:59:54 AM   
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the agree with obama...destruction of isreal. you have no concept of what liberal means.....here is a hint, it doenst mean freedom here in america.


I think you meant then. If there is war because of Obama that comes before or after he leaves office and the Jews voted for Obama, yes the thought did occur to me: Fuck Israel.

I do not have as low opinion of liberals as you do since to me liberals are another variety of conservative as I've pointed out in another thread. It will mean freedom to those who indulge in smoking a certain plant product. Please work out exactly what you mean by freedom. Freedom from addictive substances? Having women cover themselves makes some sense too. It means a world free of having to think about sex all the time. In the West we don't have that luxury. We must see women for what they really are, in your face all the time, as sex objects.

its only temporary and a way to buy votes.......when obama is done, he will take everything away......

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 2:33:49 PM   
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its only temporary and a way to buy votes.......when obama is done, he will take everything away......


The Christian way is to have hope. Release your anxiety.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 3:12:59 PM   
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If the Jews are not willing to defend Israel, I see no reason why I should defend Israel.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 3:28:59 PM   
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This article gives me a little more hope.

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While American Jews have long backed Democratic presidential candidates, American immigrants in the Jewish state are staunchly Republican. One recent survey estimated that more than four-fifths of expatriate voters in Israel cast absentee ballots for Republican challenger Mitt Romney.

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=6321

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/7/2012 3:34:26 PM   
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In the U.S., Obama won 78 percent of the Jewish vote in 2008, according to exit polls at the time. Recent polls show the president down as much as 10 percentage points because of economic and foreign policy concerns, but by and large, American Jews remain firmly in the liberal camp that backs Obama — unlike American immigrants in Israel.

http://www.israelhayom.com/site/newsletter_article.php?id=6321

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/8/2012 8:51:09 AM   
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What I am about to do is not considered politically correct because it can make my argument appear less strong. Politics is, however, the way of the dodo bird. Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword. They shall go extinct.

I am obviously trying to look into the future much like Yoda and I am tempted to insert a Star Wars quote here. There is another way to look at what happened in Benghazi. A humanist, human need, or psychological analysis. Suppose Obama knew that the attack was coming. Why would he have permitted it to occur? Obama in my analysis indeed may have had a so-called rational motive that stems from humanist ideology. Now you might be inclined to regard this as a contradiction.

Humanists do not regard contradiction as a problem though they will hold those outside of their group to this standard. This is because humanism is partially an occult practice. They feel they are in possession of some great wisdom teaching that they are just not sharing with their enemies. In truth their truth is only a half truth thus they are not as wise as they believe. I digress, however.

Everyone knows that humanism desires a one party global state which is governed by extremist humanist policies. Again, I digress.

Like I said it was odd in that the assault against the United States was made against the United States as if the Bush administration was still in power. Our ambassador was a human sacrifice. The surrender was intended to be maximal hence optimal though it was not in fact optimal as I pointed out earlier. It was optimal from a demonic point of view. It will do nothing to bring peace in truth, but may create the illusion of peace.

Humanists do not regard, as everyone knows, human life as intrinsically valuable. Hence, it is easy to make such so-called rational decisions. If life is miserable, life has no value according to humanism. Humanism adds a caveat to the value of life. If that life is inconvenient, it ceases to have value.

According to this model the President was derelict in his duty, but according to humanism there is no such a thing as duty since the notion of duty is regarded as irrational. According to humanism you don't even have a duty to uphold humanism which is a concept some may find difficult to understand. The reason why this appears sensible to a humanist is because they view progress in evolutionary terms. They figure that if you hold to notions of duty that you will go extinct and all they need do is apply a diffuse pressure against you that in turn is expected to encourage your premature demise.

It was not my intention to argue the existence of a demonic presence when I first started writing this. The reason why what I wrote will make my argument appear less cogent is that it would help explain why Iran might not attack the United States in the short term. The assumption is Iran is responding to a human need to feel secure. Humanism on the other hand is intrinsically threatening to their way of life. Humanism is playing by a different set of rules that makes them appear to be the good guys who hold no sword to your throat.

The following is suggestive and not necessarily cogent. The problem is that it is not impossible: The problem with the Jews is that it appears they may have sided with the anti-Christ.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/8/2012 10:01:29 AM   
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Scripture uses the term anti-Christ in two senses, namely the spirit of the anti-Christ and THE anti-Christ. A reference to the anti-Christ is ambiguous in that it could refer to either. There appears to be insufficient evidence to declare Obama THE anti-Christ, but the judgement that Obama is in communion with the spirit of the anti-Christ does not appear to be all that unreasonable. That said this need not imply that we are in the End Times since this scenario has played itself out many times. Mere communion with the spirit of the anti-Christ is insufficient to establish whether or not an individual is THE anti-Christ.

The situation concerning the disposition of Israel is unclear. Those Jews who live in Israel appear to have rejected the anti-Christ whereas American Jews appear to have embraced the anti-Christ. A further distinction appears to exist. The religiosity of Jews appears to be the deciding factor. The less faithful the Jew is the more inclined the Jew appears to be willing to embrace the anti-Christ. The danger is naturally whether or not conservative Christian communities will shun the Jews for having sided with the anti-Christ. This may in fact be necessary in order to bring them into the fold. It may be necessary sadly for them to know the wrath of God once more.

But suppose Obama were THE anti-Christ, what should one do? Should you reject Obama and all that he stands for? Such is the inclination of a political animal. The Scripture gives us a clue concerning what we should do though what it says is going to be a bitter pill for many. It is known that the devil has a forked tongue. He speaks in half truths. What does this mean exactly? It means half of what the devil says will point you in the direction of God as outrageous as this may seem, but the other half of what the devil says won't. The problem is not whether the devil speaks the truth, but instead the problem is one of discernment. Exactly what is the truth and what is not. Hence, to reject the anti-Christ in full is to turn away from God. One must not wrong the devil. The devil has a masochistic desire for you to wrong him, however, because by doing so he will turn you from the truth.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/8/2012 10:19:26 AM   
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Mark 12:17
And Jesus said to them, "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." And they were amazed at Him.

New American Standard Bible (Copyright 1995)
http://bible.cc/mark/12-17.htm


When God said this what do you think God was saying? Why were the people amazed? The people were amazed because God said, don't wrong the devil.

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RE: Why should we preserve Iran - 11/8/2012 10:26:06 AM   
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On the other hand what has the Republican party been doing? It doesn't want to render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, it has indulged in rude behavior beyond anything that can be justified, and so on. Accept some of the criticism that has been given to you from the liberal party as true. If you are to be representatives of God and His mighty warriors, then walk in the ways of God.

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