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misanthropicdom -> RE: At Least "America is a Racist Country" is now a dead issue (11/7/2012 8:20:16 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
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ORIGINAL: misanthropicdom
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
One of the disadvantages of the EC is that it can hand the presidency to someone who lost the popular vote.
Another disadvantage is that it effectively disenfranchises people who are minority voters in their state while effectively enfranchising illegal aliens, felons in prison and non citizens.
I agree with the first statement.
I don't understand the reasoning behind the second.
I think in the next few decades we'll see more states getting rid of the "winner take all" rule for the EC, and go with proportional representation. Two states do it now, more are sure to follow. It's the first step to getting rid of the EC entirely.
The EC gives one vote per Rep in congress.
Representatives are apportioned based on total population, not number of citizens.
Let's use Cali for our example.
55 EV for 37 Million people
According to the University of California, 19% of the population of California is non-citizens.
This means that California has 11 more EV than it would if only citizens were represented.
Add in those who are in jail or released felons who have lost their right to vote and you have about 1 more EV representing them.
All 12 of those votes representing non citizens and dirtbags went for Mr Obama.
Almost 3.5 Million people in California voted for Romney. Their vote was, for all practical purposes, tossed into the shredder and not counted.
Every one of my friends on the Far Right is totally against doing away with the EC (probably soemting Rush told em to say) until I explain it this way and they they say "Holy FUCK, I never thought of it like that"
As for proportional representation , why not just cut out the middle man and get rid of the EC?
OK, I can see your point. But similar things happen in other states that lean the other way. Without proportional representation, that is not likely to change.
Doing away with the EC would be difficult. The last time the idea was floated, neither party was the least bit interested. It's a system they know and understand well. I am always amused at the detail with which the wonks can go county by county and say which way the vote will go, and how that affects the EC reps, which states are more critical than others.
If there's going to be a major change, I'd rather see discussion of why a state with 850,000 people should have the same number of Senators and thus policy power as one with 37 million people...
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