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I'd say the author is pointing out that people on such public assistance are not entitled to top shelf living.

Don't you think?

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Yes there is a connection but such does not make outsourcing part of the topic, now does it.

When you're proposing fantasy solutions that you've apparently gleaned from a bad '80s SF film to the problem of unemployment, the actual source of the problem is worth discussing.

You'll not find that in the OP. So, no, I do not think it worth discussing here. There are threads where it is though. Feel free to visit them.

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And frankly, people are entitled to spend their money on whatever the hell they want to, however it was attained: can you imagine the shitfit you'd be throwing if some mouthy liberal had suggested that people shouldn't be allowed to buy booze if they own a gun? Given your own aversion to nanny stating, the hypocrisy in your OP is breathtaking.

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Yes there is a connection but such does not make outsourcing part of the topic, now does it.

When you're proposing fantasy solutions that you've apparently gleaned from a bad '80s SF film to the problem of unemployment, the actual source of the problem is worth discussing.

You'll not find that in the OP. So, no, I do not think it worth discussing here. There are threads where it is though. Feel free to visit them.

So in the absence of jobs, you feel the correct approach to the unemployed is to abuse them. Right.

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And frankly, people are entitled to spend their money on whatever the hell they want to, however it was attained: can you imagine the shitfit you'd be throwing if some mouthy liberal had suggested that people shouldn't be allowed to buy booze if they own a gun? Given your own aversion to nanny stating, the hypocrisy in your OP is breathtaking.

It's not their money, it's the taxpayers. The rest is pure noise.

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No, as soon as it's given to them by the Feds who took it from the taxpayer, then it's their money. Sorry, but that's how it works.
(Maybe I do need to get the webcam and the glove puppets after all...)

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OFF TOPIC!

Please stop trying to derail. Unemployment is not the fucking topic.

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Put me in charge of food stamps. I’d get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, or smoke, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good..”

Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND While you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes, that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

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And what of those of retirement age? they would technically be without a job? does that mean then that everything they worked for is taken from them?

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No, as soon as it's given to them by the Feds who took it from the taxpayer, then it's their money. Sorry, but that's how it works.
(Maybe I do need to get the webcam and the glove puppets after all...)

No! Part of the deal is on what and how it is spent. No different than if I give you money for X, you are not to use it for Y. If you do, your cut off.

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If unemployment isn't the topic, then there is no topic given the content of your OP:

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Yes! It's there to keep people alive and housed. If they want a house full of drugs whores and hire purchase electronics that they can't afford, then that's their business, not yours.

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Let's be honest here: you resent there being any welfare spending at all, and would rather see these people begging in the street. All of this drivel is just an attempt to justify that attitude.

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If unemployment isn't the topic, then there is no topic given the content of your OP:

Bullshit! People live their whole lives on government assistance.

Unemployment is not the fucking topic. Get over yourself and stop trying to derail.

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LOL, OP is quoting the fuckin stupidest shit I have ever heard, what fuckin codswallow.

Just providing the progressives room to be themselves.

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LOL, OP is quoting the fuckin stupidest shit I have ever heard, what fuckin codswallow.

Just providing the progressives room to be themselves.

So, yoiu think the OP is a progressive?  How do you come to that, because there is no other way to parse your sentence.  (even with the joking thing)

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Ok then OP.. seeing how none of us mere plebs posses your obviously superior intellect...

WTF IS THE TOPIC THEN??

The post reads as thought it centers around jobs, unemployment and welfare but any of us mere peons who have dared to mention it have been shouted down.

(I really should stop feeding the troll shouldn't I?)

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You'll find that welfare dependency doesn't exist in a vacuum. If you're not willing to address the reasons for it

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How are they going to find a job as your cite in the OP shrilly insists, when there are no fucking jobs to be had? Are you seriously suggesting that has no bearing on the permanent underclass stuck on government assistance for a lifetime?

It has bearing where such is the topic, but its not.

Look, numb nuts, if the topic gets expanded to unemployment and job availability it necessarily leads to off-shoring which leads to discussing corporations. None of that is on topic.

Want to talk about all that unwieldy stuff? make a thread.

You'll find that welfare dependency doesn't exist in a vacuum. If you're not willing to address the reasons for it, then it's small wonder that your alleged "solution" to the problem it poses is bullshit.
How are they going to find a job and get off welfare if there are no fucking jobs to be had? Are you cool with them taking your taxes?