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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 11:53:37 AM

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How do you know that they don't?

Because I am not talking about reporting... rather than report they should confront their antagonist in the thread without breaking TOS which is easy and effective to do. Then just stop posting to stop the confrontation.

In my view there is far too much reporting going on by others thinking they have the right or duty to protect others.

I have already altered my stance in this thread… many have pointed out good reasons to report and I agree with them in those instances…But I do not feel it is my duty to , metaphorically, step between antagonistic posters and I don’t believe others should either….But of course my opinion and my personal actions.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 12:08:12 PM

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The option to report is there.

The judgement of the person reporting does not seem to matter.

The reports are reviewed by management.

Management then determines the validity.

Everything else just seems like a reason to insult those that report, or those that think no one should report.

When flames are put into a discussion, everyone that seeks intellectual discourse suffers as it often drives the discussion away from the subject.

If you are here to have fun ripping on people, rather than civil discussion, then maybe you should examine the reasons you are here and whether they match the goals of this site.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 12:30:54 PM

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When flames are put into a discussion, everyone that seeks intellectual discourse suffers as it often drives the discussion away from the subject.

Flames are easily put out by refusing to engage the antagonist… this is a point I am trying to make. Reporting often causes more problems than just stop responding to the flamer. If this were done by more then many problems would cease to exist.

I must also add, because you have mentioned how distracting flaming is in other threads, that I find it amazing that an obvious intelligent person like yourself can not just ignore the trash in a thread and carry a conversation with those who care… If I can so can you if you choose.

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If you are here to have fun ripping on people, rather than civil discussion, then maybe you should examine the reasons you are here and whether they match the goals of this site

I am assuming this is not directed to me personally but to those in general who have fun ripping people. As for the reasons people come here there are many and one persons ripping is another’s hotly contested views. I understand your point I just think it is wrong…and I am not insulting your opinion mine is just different.

Who are we to judge the validity of others right to their opinions and posting styles. I however can choose to engaged whom ever i like in my style if I choose and they have the right to return the conversation or ignore it.

Butch

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 1:40:41 PM

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I don't expect the world to change on account of my phobia, but it makes me wonder about the nature of someone with no regard for others.

Why that's an excellent thing to wonder about. But I don't think you need to stray too far from home to get some insights. Consider having so little regard for others that you would even think of this situation in the way that you are. You would, for the sake of a very, very tiny percentage of the population, start limiting the freedom of the rest of us. Even worse, where does that end? What when someone says "swords terrify me". When you think about it, there's a LOT of good reasons to be way more terrified of swords than spiders. Are you going to happily take down all your fantasy pictures because some tiny number of people don't like them?

Arachnophobia is a very common phobia, and tends to produce very strong reactions in those who suffer from it. By comparison, the fact that unaware users will see that photo with no warning is comparable to forcefeeding a diabetic a candy cane, no, a whole bag of sugar.
You think those two things are comparable? Really? Oh, and something worth pondering? While a great many people may get some sort negative reaction to the sight of a spider (myself among them), most of us would not toss expensive electronics across a room as a result. Most of us are either not that afraid of them or have more self-discipline than that.

For instance, I have read the Hobbit, and am very aware of the giant spiders in Mirkwood - yet I chose to see the movie because I was aware of what was coming, and was able to prepare myself for it. The same with Shelob in LotR, and Aragog and his brood in HP:Chamber of Secrets. But for the picture to pop up without warning is comparable to surprising someone by dropping such a thing in their lap.
Yes, but the real world is scary. In the real world there are not just spiders, but also other humans. And those spiders and other humans don't think like you do. They won't dance your tune whenever you feel like it. Which brings us to the next part...

Ok, so the person with the phobia, as illogical as the phobia may be, should then be the one who has to restrict their own privileges so as not to accidentally view a trigger picture?
Bingo. We call it "personal responsibility" or "behaving like an adult". Yes, you are responsible for your own health and safety especially when your needs are so far outside the norm. I can't believe that isn't obvious to you.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 1:58:03 PM

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Ok, so the person with the phobia, as illogical as the phobia may be, should then be the one who has to restrict their own privileges so as not to accidentally view a trigger picture?
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Bingo. We call it "personal responsibility" or "behaving like an adult". Yes, you are responsible for your own health and safety especially when your needs are so far outside the norm. I can't believe that isn't obvious to you.

I have a phobia of mixed vegetables and other non-combinable food items. They absolutely freak me out. I don't expect other people to change their eating habits or how they arrange their plates.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:00:22 PM

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I have a phobia about female red heads, coming from having dated a few with really bad tempers, therefore lets ban female redheads from the site.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:07:37 PM

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I have a phobia about female red heads, coming from having dated a few with really bad tempers, therefore lets ban female redheads from the site.

le sigh one of the sexiest women I have meet was a red head from this forum.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:09:34 PM

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I have a phobia about female red heads, coming from having dated a few with really bad tempers, therefore lets ban female redheads from the site.

le sigh one of the sexiest women I have meet was a red head from this forum.

Say that when said woman smashes a full unopened bottle of 50 year old scotch against a wall.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:12:20 PM

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I have a phobia about female red heads, coming from having dated a few with really bad tempers, therefore lets ban female redheads from the site.

le sigh one of the sexiest women I have meet was a red head from this forum.

Say that when said woman smashes a full unopened bottle of 50 year old scotch against a wall.

That is just a waste of perfectly wonderful scotch but eh...
Could be worse coulda been your head. (teas'n)

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:16:00 PM

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One of the said redheads burned up the clutch in my 66 dodge charger

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:45:45 PM

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I have a phobia about female red heads, coming from having dated a few with really bad tempers, therefore lets ban female redheads from the site.

Then you may want to get your money back from Alpha that you paid for my clone.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:51:56 PM

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I have a phobia about female red heads, coming from having dated a few with really bad tempers, therefore lets ban female redheads from the site.

Then you may want to get your money back from Alpha that you paid for my clone.

Maybe, or invest in better restraints.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:53:49 PM

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Many things would work better in an ideal world. Fact is, many people like to rip and flame. You have seen the monster threads just like me, so the coy answer does not seem to wash well.

Yes your answer is the perfect solution. No your answer is not very viable in light of how things have been going for years in these forums.

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Flames are easily put out by refusing to engage the antagonist… this is a point I am trying to make. Reporting often causes more problems than just stop responding to the flamer. If this were done by more then many problems would cease to exist.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 2:55:50 PM

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Many things would work better in an ideal world. Fact is, many people like to rip and flame. You have seen the monster threads just like me, so the coy answer does not seem to wash well.

Yes your answer is the perfect solution. No your answer is not very viable in light of how things have been going for years in these forums.

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Flames are easily put out by refusing to engage the antagonist… this is a point I am trying to make. Reporting often causes more problems than just stop responding to the flamer. If this were done by more then many problems would cease to exist.

Actually I have blocked four people so I dont get tempted to debate people with little or no common sense, sense of history or less than a double digit IQ

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 3:14:36 PM

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I think the real answer may be somewhere in the middle...lol

What I mean is my solution works for me and would work for all others... but some people are too stubborn to let the flamer have the last word and that often keeps things going.

And of course I am never stubborn.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 3:16:00 PM

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I think the real answer may be somewhere in the middle...lol

What I mean is my solution works for me and would work for all others... but some people are too stubborn to let the flamer have the last word and that often keeps things going.

And of course I am never stubborn.

Butch

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 5:07:57 PM

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I would never have dreamed of reporting any of them based on how I thought they were treating other people. I would not have ruined the experience that someone else was enjoying just because I didn't like them. Because then Heather/Hannah would have been right. I would have been acting like a cunt.

Wow. Your definition of "cunt" and mine are really different. They were the cunts, hands down. Reporting their bullshit sure wasn't. On that, we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 5:11:24 PM

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Kaliko, seems you're implying that those who do and/or have reported others are cunts.

It's interesting, in the number of threads in which reporting posts has been discussed, I've seen those who have reported referred to as not being adults, wittle whiners, in need of a nanny, and now...cunts. Nice.

And what I've said is people should do what feels right to them. What's the big deal? I'm not trying to convince anyone to report or not report. People, including yourself, have said they don't understand why people report others. I've explained why I do. What do I get back? "Doing that would have been acting like a cunt."

So I'm pretty convinced people don't actually want to understand why, they just want to complain that people report. Alrighty then!

So I'm not going to explain why anymore. I've done so in several threads and either I suck at explaining, or people don't really want the explanation. Or something else, who knows.

Exit, Stage Left...

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 5:17:00 PM

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Times a billion!
Nothing weak about reporting, when needed. There have been major issues of trolling on some great threads. When people are trying to learn, it's kinda rude and childish to toll. To me, if we all were in or at a BDSM class and some jerk started spouting off some bullshit (and I say bullshit bc that is what it was. It wasn't a healthy disagreement, it was a temper tantrum) the people actually attempting to learn would be pissed. That's how I tend to view things here, I certainly can learn a lot from people, and have.

In this particular forum, the only thing we can do when this happens is either report or hide, or both. Nothing

Not only would others present be pissed but a DM or club manager with a grain of salt would kick them out.

PERIOD.

in real life adults in the class would tell them to shut up, and not be penalised for doing so.

taking what level wrote i don't seem to be reading it the same way as everyone else.

needles

I meant that it isnt weak to speak or act AGAINST rules, guidelines, or laws, if your conscience compels you to. I think you may be the one that got it.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 5:23:48 PM

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Can I report level and the others that have used the unfair tactic of logic in these threads?

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