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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 9:43:12 PM

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Can I report level and the others that have used the unfair tactic of logic in these threads?

Good idea, jlf, we certainly want to nip that kind of crap in the bud!

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 9:59:22 PM

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What the fuck does that mean? When you report someone you REALLY report them? As opposed to your casual, disinterested reporting?

You are cute, or really "special".
I only know ONE way to report people on here, and that is to hit the report button.
Is there such a thing as "fake" reporting?
wtf?
Yes, I REALLY report---> when I report, dude.
Wrap your head around the point, that I rarely feel the need to do so.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 10:10:54 PM

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To not speak up, or if need be, act, when you believe rules, guidelines, or laws to be wrong, is to me weak.

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw
THIS 1000xs!

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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
Times a billion!

Oh dear. You poor sweet children. Level's post reinforces MY stance, NOT YOURS.

In future, I'll cut the number of syllables I use when conversing with you. I have no doubt I'm confusing the fuck out of you.

Um, I might be taking what he said wrong, and if so then he can correct me..but I believe the statement said " to NOT speak up....to me is weak." So do we need to cut the number of syllables for you?

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/15/2013 10:59:25 PM

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If you are here to have fun ripping on people, rather than civil discussion, then maybe you should examine the reasons you are here and whether they match the goals of this site.

Here's the problem. What you think is "ripping on people" most likely is civil discussion to me. Most times what I see pulled by the mods isn't even close to ripping people. To me it's just p art of a normal conversation flow. So people get hot headed. I like that. It means there's real meat to the conversation. It means there is a passion behind the person and passion is a good thing. It means they actually have something to say instead of sitting back and saying "I don't like what you said and I don't want to see it here" . Once that happens the conversation no longer even makes any sense. The tide has been disrupted. The conversation had a dead end, only one way now instead of a two way street.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 12:22:17 AM

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Christ, either your comment was utterly tautological or you're one of these nauseating individuals who're friends with one or more moderators and calls them up on the phone (drops a dime) whenever you see someone you don't like. I thought this practice had been eliminated, but apparently not.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 12:28:39 AM

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To not speak up, or if need be, act, when you believe rules, guidelines, or laws to be wrong, is to me weak.

Um, I might be taking what he said wrong, and if so then he can correct me..

He already did, when he said

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ORIGINAL: Level
I meant that it isnt weak to speak or act AGAINST rules, guidelines, or laws, if your conscience compels you to.

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-but I believe the statement said " to NOT speak up....to me is weak." So do we need to cut the number of syllables for you?

How on earth do you read the first part of his sentence and completely MISS the last part which establishes exactly what he's talking about? Are you seriously trying to tell me that subs are supposed to trust you with their money when you apparently have trouble reading complete sentences?

Unbelievable.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 1:22:35 AM

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Wow, you really are ignorant.

I'll accept the gold letter for this one.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 1:50:21 AM

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 1:52:34 AM

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Awareness, we disagree.

You're not going to persuade me by repeatedly parroting the same view, over an over.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 3:43:11 AM

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What the fuck does that mean? When you report someone you REALLY report them? As opposed to your casual, disinterested reporting?

You are cute, or really "special".
I only know ONE way to report people on here, and that is to hit the report button.
Is there such a thing as "fake" reporting?
wtf?
Yes, I REALLY report---> when I report, dude.
Wrap your head around the point, that I rarely feel the need to do so.

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Marini, talking down to someone from a position of ignorance just makes you look stupid.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 3:58:34 AM

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Um, I might be taking what he said wrong, and if so then he can correct me..but I believe the statement said " to NOT speak up....to me is weak." So do we need to cut the number of syllables for you?

Um, you are. You're taking what he said wrong. The sentence "Not to speak up, or if need be act, when you believe rules, guidelines, or laws to be wrong, is to me weak." refers to the fact that TAFKAA is speaking out and acting out against what he believes to be unfair rules of moderation. Level is saying that submissively complying to unfair rules is weak, which is the opposite of what TAFKAA is doing. I haven't decided myself if those rules really are unfair, but you certainly misunderstood.

Again, talking down to someone of demonstrably higher intelligence than you while you misunderstand what they say... simply makes you look stupid. Next time you should consider not offering such clear proof of your own ignorance.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 4:07:20 AM

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You are bitching because people want to enforce rules? So if someone is ever stealing your stuff don't call the cops, handle it yourself. When the cops pick you up for assaulting the thief perhaps you will get it then. As to the text below...

Bwahahahahaha <takes a breath> hahaha

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People who didn't follow guidelines and rules:

Joan of Arc
Ghengis Khan
Jesus Christ
Leonidas
Alexander the Great
Marco Polo
Albert Einstein
Bruce Lee
Ghandi
Martin Luther
Martin Luther King Jr.

Frankly, I think I'm in good company.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 4:10:20 AM

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You are bitching because people want to enforce rules? So if someone is ever stealing your stuff don't call the cops, handle it yourself.

Actually, I think that's exactly what he's saying.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 4:27:00 AM

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As I said in my post then he should not call the cops if he's robbed. Handle it himself and see how he believes after that. Every group has a right to establish a set of rules and guide lines on things. CM is no different. One of those enforcement tools here is the report feature.

I have and likely will report people in the future. If people think that makes me weak... Bwahahahahaha
Those people who know me, know I'm anything but. So the thoughts of total strangers don't amount to much at all.

If I did not like the rules here I would leave. Not belly up to my keyboard and whine about others being weak because they like the order of things around here and would use the tools made to help keeping that order. Please if you feel that strongly take your ball and go home.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 4:35:01 AM

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Again, talking down to someone of demonstrably higher intelligence than you while you misunderstand what they say... simply makes you look stupid. Next time you should consider not offering such clear proof of your own ignorance.

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Ahem. I take it the irony is deliberate?

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 4:42:37 AM

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Ahem. I take it the irony is deliberate?

Of course it is, crazyml. Of course it is.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 4:42:38 AM

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You are bitching because people want to enforce rules? So if someone is ever stealing your stuff don't call the cops, handle it yourself.

Actually, I think that's exactly what he's saying.

Pam

I think there would be a difference between calling the cops over something illegal/violent and reporting a post for violating the Terms of Service. Violating TOS is not a crime; you can't get arrested for that.

I would think a forum like this is more analogous to walking into a store, restaurant, club, or any other privately-owned establishment. The owners or management can make their own rules and enforce them, as some places might have signs which read "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."

Would I, as a patron, have a responsibility to report another patron's violation of the rules to the management? I guess it would largely depend upon the circumstances. If they're doing something harmful to others, then I could see it, but if they're just violating the dress code or something silly like that, I can't see why I would report something like that.

Since school examples are being brought up in this thread, I think some things are different than others. If someone is actually bullied, then they may try to handle it themselves or report it to higher ups. Whether it's seen as "weak" is circumstantial. But that would still be different from a situation where someone might report a couple of people for smoking a joint in some isolated corner somewhere and not otherwise bothering anyone. If someone reported that, then they'd be a snitch, a narc. Nobody likes a snitch or a tattle-tale. I don't know that it's "weak," but it might be perceived as "low" by some people.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 4:51:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA

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ORIGINAL: Level
To not speak up, or if need be, act, when you believe rules, guidelines, or laws to be wrong, is to me weak.

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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw
THIS 1000xs!

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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
Times a billion!

Oh dear. You poor sweet children. Level's post reinforces MY stance, NOT YOURS.

In future, I'll cut the number of syllables I use when conversing with you. I have no doubt I'm confusing the fuck out of you.

It does nothing of the sort.

The fact that you compound your lack of comprehension by attempting to patronise makes it all the more laughable.

Level's excellent point speaks to a general principle about being willing to stand up and be counted.

It certainly does not say that it is wrong to report people. I cannot see how you might infer that?

Level clarified his point -

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I meant that it isnt weak to speak or act AGAINST rules, guidelines, or laws, if your conscience compels you to.

Now I'm willing to be corrected by Level, but this does seem to be a philosophy that supports taking action when your conscience compels you to, and being willing to take the consequences.

I'm not sure it is an argument against reporting people though. Perhaps you could explain how you come to that conclusion.

I'd go further and say that I can quite easily see it as a justification for reporting people. Despite the criticism I'm likely to get from the likes of you, I will still be prepared to report posts that I think violate the terms of the site - Because it's the right thing to do.

Of course there are times when good people need to stand up, you've done it yourself on this very site, and I tip my hat to you for it.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 5:06:09 AM

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I think there would be a difference between calling the cops over something illegal/violent and reporting a post for violating the Terms of Service. Violating TOS is not a crime; you can't get arrested for that.

I suspect Awareness might believe calling the cops was beneath him if it really were a question of violence or threat, and so his stance against reporting posts here for being mean (by comparison, a far lesser "crime") is consistent with his ideas of right and wrong. You may disagree with that stance, but the position does make sense.

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I would think a forum like this is more analogous to walking into a store, restaurant, club, or any other privately-owned establishment. The owners or management can make their own rules and enforce them, as some places might have signs which read "we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."

And I think these "accept the status quo or leave" arguments are analogous to telling Rosa Parks to leave or sit at the back of the free public library and have to await days for approval to check out books.

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RE: Lets be honest have you ever reported anyone - 1/16/2013 5:14:38 AM

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