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Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 6/19/2006 9:27:31 AM

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St. Paul Pioneer Press
May 1, 2006
Courtesy of News of the Weird

Less than three months after one wife-as-sex-slave contract surfaced (in Iowa, for which husband Travis Frey in June was sentenced to 10 years in prison), Hudson, Wis., husband Kevin Anderson was accused of making his own sex-slave contract with his estranged wife, Kimberly O'Brien, which O'Brien filed as evidence in March in her pending divorce. The contract required O'Brien to call Anderson "Master Jon," to achieve orgasm "ONLY" (emphasis in the original) by permission, and to allow her orgasms to be "controlled for proper training (and) teaching ... good habits (and) providing motivation (and) physical or sexual energy."

RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/12/2006 2:58:02 PM

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Haha I find that funny

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/13/2006 4:50:49 AM

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It does seem to be a growing trend.

I hear folks griping a lot about the goth-kiddies wearing collars as a fashion statement. Upset that this unique thing for BDSM has wound up leaking out into non-BDSM community. Are contracts going to wind up the same way collars did? That they somehow leak out of the BDSM community and wind up getting used by misogynists on a power trip?

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/13/2006 6:02:06 PM

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I would not be surprised. Plus so long as things keep on making the news you have people who think: "Cool, that might be a neat idea"

More likely than not though, it may just be that there is more attention payed to contracts now, because BDSM is more well known and sensationalized about, so couples ending up in court who have a contract are more likely to recieve media coverage than couples who arent. I think it is more about society impinging on people who are different and causing a fuss over these "wierdos" than it is about contracts going mainstream.

(Think about polyamory. People with multiple wives are persecuted, but people who have many infidelous lovers, or who are simply promiscious are barely paid heed because society accepts infidelity within a monogamous relationship, but not polyfidelty.)

However, it is this coverage that helps things become mainstream.

I remember the collar fad coming up when I was a kid. It had nothing to do with BDSM at that time that I knew of it, but I do remember hearing the "grown ups" complain about how a dog collar belonged on a dog not a human, which was why I never asked for one, because I knew my mother would not get me one. The roots of the fad may have started with BDSM, but the fad itself has nothing to do with it.

Besides, just a question, why would anyone care whether or not contracts have leaked outside the lifestyle? Heck it might be a couple's way of finding their way into the lifestyle.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/23/2006 11:15:24 AM

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does it mean bdsm is illegal ? and legal risk if only only for master/mistress only? wondering 10 years for just accepting someone as slave and we all can be traced by our ip addresses ... so we all can be in jail ( only masters/mistresses i am happy i am sub)

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/23/2006 12:40:55 PM

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You've had that question answered repeatedly...bringing it up over and over when you know the answer is 'No', is trollage

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/23/2006 2:03:18 PM

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oh then why 10 yrs jail? was it for forced slavery ?

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/23/2006 9:20:03 PM

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oh then why 10 yrs jail? was it for forced slavery ?

This is why:
Frey is already charged with first-degree kidnapping, which is a crime punishable by life in prison without parole. Frey also faces a charge of domestic assault causing bodily injury on his wife.
"The allegations are that he confined and subjected his wife to sexual abuse," said Pottawattamie County Attorney Matt Wilber.
According to court records, Frey's wife told police her husband tied her to their bed with a rope and sexually assaulted her at least three times. Frey's wife also provided police with an alleged "marriage contract," which was entitled "Contract of Wifely Expectations." In it, Frey allegedly gave his wife chances to earn "good behavior days" -- or GBDs -- by complying with certain demands, such as hygiene and self-care. "You will shave every third day," the contract states. "You will be naked within 20 minutes of the kids being in bed."
The document spells out how many points can be earned by performing certain sex acts. Frey's wife said she never signed the contract.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/23/2006 10:08:14 PM

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oh then why 10 yrs jail? was it for forced slavery ?

As has been repeatedly explained, and as you continue to ignore, if the other person doesn't give consent, it isn't BDSM, it is a criminal act, fake contract, or no fake contract.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/24/2006 4:04:08 AM

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Well, actually, there are many places where many physical aspects of BDSM are illegal. In quite a lot of American states and the UK, you don't have the right to consent to physical harm - masochism is still considered a sexual/mental dysfunction.
In the 'Spanner' trials in the UK, submissives/bottoms were charged as accomplices in their own abuse for allowing themselves to be beaten.
..Just another perspective.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/24/2006 11:55:33 AM

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Under both English and American law, consenting to contact generally negates criminal charges...that is how boxers, martial arts teachers, football players, and actors are able to do what they do without being charged with anything.

In some select cases, judges have placed their personal/moral feelings above the law, and falsely claimed that one cannot give consent to a battery, merely because they disapproved of the lifestyle of the defendant....which is quite clearly wrong.

So that isn't, 'the law', it is corrupt judges.

As far as the sexual aspect, I cannot speak to the English code, but in the US, the courts have ruled all the way to the very top, that the government has no business in people's bedrooms.

So the statement that 'BDSM is illegal' is at best a stretch, at worst, just plain wrong.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/25/2006 3:58:04 PM

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in this particular case..is was forced slavery....his wife never signed the "contract"....one of the stipulations in it stated that if she did not comply with the contract..he would tie her to a bed and do whatever he wanted to her...

so one day when she took the kids to church when had specificaly told her not to..he kidnapped her...took her to a hotel tied her to a bed and proceeded to rape her....apparently this had happened twice before and she had forgiven him...

they were married for ten years..and had i think three kid together...
having a master/save relationship can work great for some couples..but consent has to be present on both sides..not like in this case....

a copy of his "contract of wifely expectations" can be seen at this site...

http://www.takeninhand.com/node/1235

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/25/2006 8:23:24 PM

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I wanted to add re the comments about masochism being a mental illness, that nowhere in the US does either the law, or the medical establishment say that, nor have they for quite a while.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/26/2006 12:23:10 AM

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My God, are you uninformed. You can be charged with--and convicted of--all kinds of felonies even if the other person consented. It has happened, too. Shit, people, don't listen to know-it-alls on the internet; find out the laws in your own jurisdiction and make your own decisions.

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Under both English and American law, consenting to contact generally negates criminal charges...that is how boxers, martial arts teachers, football players, and actors are able to do what they do without being charged with anything.

In some select cases, judges have placed their personal/moral feelings above the law, and falsely claimed that one cannot give consent to a battery, merely because they disapproved of the lifestyle of the defendant....which is quite clearly wrong.

So that isn't, 'the law', it is corrupt judges.

As far as the sexual aspect, I cannot speak to the English code, but in the US, the courts have ruled all the way to the very top, that the government has no business in people's bedrooms.

So the statement that 'BDSM is illegal' is at best a stretch, at worst, just plain wrong.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/26/2006 5:04:41 AM

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Interesting how his wife was under this contract, submitted to it...then used it as if it was "evidence" in a divorce? Bet the Judge gets a kick outta this case

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/26/2006 6:11:53 AM

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It's these situations that give our lifestyle a bad name. The media will play them up just
to increase sales or viewers. They will rarely present us in a positive light.

irishbynature she did not sign the contract.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/26/2006 12:12:25 PM

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ORIGINAL: iliv2servher

St. Paul Pioneer Press
May 1, 2006
Courtesy of News of the Weird

Less than three months after one wife-as-sex-slave contract surfaced (in Iowa, for which husband Travis Frey in June was sentenced to 10 years in prison), Hudson, Wis., husband Kevin Anderson was accused of making his own sex-slave contract with his estranged wife, Kimberly O'Brien, which O'Brien filed as evidence in March in her pending divorce. The contract required O'Brien to call Anderson "Master Jon," to achieve orgasm "ONLY" (emphasis in the original) by permission, and to allow her orgasms to be "controlled for proper training (and) teaching ... good habits (and) providing motivation (and) physical or sexual energy."

please note the pending divorce in the second example. chances are she wants out of the marriage with the best deal possible, and her lawyer pointed out that this proves 'unreasonable' actions on her husband's part. divorce attorneys are in the business of slinging mud, chances are in less then a year she has herself a new 'master'

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/26/2006 12:33:18 PM

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Please note the repeatedly pointed out lack of signature.

Unless of course, you actually think that beating and raping someone without their consent and drawing up a fake unsigned contract is part of the lifestyle, in which case...go away.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/26/2006 7:43:29 PM

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http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/local/14471124.htm

this links to the article i looked at. honestly, i wasn't commenting on the first case just the second that was following it out of the woodwork.. there are two seperate cases mentioned in the OP. being the gossip loving little person i am, i gave my reactions to the second case. the first is tragic, and yes gives all lifestylers a bad name (it reminds me of those kids in WI with the Vampire club that gave all gamers a bad name again, worse since D&D in the 80s and early 90s) the second case honestly sounds like mud slinging to me.

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RE: Wife As Sex Slave Contract - 7/26/2006 8:16:22 PM

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Sorry for the sharp tone, this is obviously a hot button issue for me....

The whole thing about consent permeates everything we do, no trusting lifestyle activities or relationships can safely take place if games are played with consent, and nothing about confusing outright abuse with BDSM is good, even if the abuser is wearing leather pants, or the victim a collar.

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