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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

yes it's anti-semitic and that's why I have a certain poster here well known for it, on ignore, because CM allowed him to say such things with nothing done to him.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Holocaust denial is the absolute worst sort of anti semitism as it attempts to erase the attempted eradication of the jewish people. By pretending to believe that millions of jews were not killed it sets up the possibility of more violence against jews under the "justification" that they are spreading terrible lies against the people who particpated in the Holocaust.

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

yes it's anti-semitic and that's why I have a certain poster here well known for it, on ignore, because CM allowed him to say such things with nothing done to him.

Considering the dither that clearly violates TOS allowed to stay under the bubble wrap the newbie protocols, are you suprised??

I met more than one person that survived the camps. Some tattooed as being prisoners & others growing up near by. The stories they tell are too detaied & corroborated by paperwork not to be true.
What do find interesting is the "neo nazi camp" will say jews are liars with their dying breath yet african slavery not only occurred but was a good idea. Am I the only one that sees the hypocriacy of the "racist arguement"?

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have complained repeatedly about this poster on a number of occasions, the denial of the holocaust, and other issues I felt were in violation of the TOS, nothing happened, yet my posts directly confronting him have been pulled on a number of occasions. It makes me wonder sometimes.

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

I have complained repeatedly about this poster on a number of occasions, the denial of the holocaust, and other issues I felt were in violation of the TOS, nothing happened, yet my posts directly confronting him have been pulled on a number of occasions. It makes me wonder sometimes.

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(the nazis tattooed and branded the jews purposely because the jewish religion forbids the marking of one's flesh in such a way...so it was done to further demoralize the victims).

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Before the Nazi takeover of power in 1933, Europe had a vibrant and mature Jewish culture. By 1945, most European Jews--two out of every three--had been killed.

that means there were roughly 9 million Jews in Europe before the Nazi death camps.

Then in another thread, you have a person claiming the Holocaust only killed between 200 and 400 thousand Jews. Claims that there were swimming pools for the prisoners at the camps, which were proven to be blatant lies, they were fire fighting reservoirs used by political prisoners and SS guards as pools.

Then he starts spouting crap about a killing of Jews in 1919, for which there is no proof, and if it had happened, then there would not have been 9 million Jews in Europe by 1933, unless Jews had litters of 10 plus children every time they gave birth,.

I get all this from the people that quote the individual, and the only 'Holocaust" that happened during WW1 was against the Armenians.

And of course now he is posting his crap in this thread.

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Barbara Cherish, the daughter of Arthur Liebehenschel, wrote a book which was published in 2009, entitled "My father, the Auschwitz commandant." In her book, Barbara credits her father with building a swimming pool for the use of the prisoners. Liebehenschel was the Commandant of the Auschwitz main camp for five months, beginning on December 1, 1943. Liebehenschel is credited with other improvements at Auschwitz I, including the tearing down of the standing cells in Block 11.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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(the nazis tattooed and branded the jews purposely because the jewish religion forbids the marking of one's flesh in such a way...so it was done to further demoralize the victims).

Thanks for sharing that. It's a fascinating connection I'd never made before.

The following NYT article may interest you:

Proudly Bearing Elders' Scars, Their Skin Says "Never Forget"

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You missed the point of the other 6 million. Glynn is talking about poor conditions for Jews after WWI, not deaths of Jews.

The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!

Glynn's article "The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!" was published in the October 31, 1919, issue of The American Hebrew; in it he lamented the poor conditions for European Jews after World War I. Glynn referred to these conditions as a potential "holocaust" and asserted that "six million Jewish men and women are starving across the seas".[2][3][4] Because of these coincidences, the article has been exploited by Holocaust denial groups.[5]

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You missed the point of the other 6 million. Glynn is talking about poor conditions for Jews after WWI, not deaths of Jews.

The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!

Glynn's article "The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop!" was published in the October 31, 1919, issue of The American Hebrew; in it he lamented the poor conditions for European Jews after World War I. Glynn referred to these conditions as a potential "holocaust" and asserted that "six million Jewish men and women are starving across the seas".[2][3][4] Because of these coincidences, the article has been exploited by Holocaust denial groups.[5]

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Holocaust denial and Jewish conspiracy theories are also considered a form of antisemitism.
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ORIGINAL: Moonlightmaddnes

I did not think anyone denied the holocaust. I do not see how anyone could with all the documentation. When I was a teenager my mom had a good friend who's mother still had the tattoo from the concentration camp she was in.

Yes, when I was a kid some concentration camp survivors came to our school to speak about the holocaust. I saw the tattoos up close...I also saw the torture scars (the nazis tattooed and branded the jews purposely because the jewish religion forbids the marking of one's flesh in such a way...so it was done to further demoralize the victims).

The fact that the nazis kept detailed records of arrests and concentration camp activites...as well as all their DOCUMENTARY FILMS I've seen of concentration camp prisoners, starved, dying...and the death-stiffened bodies being bulldozed into pits to be burned/buried (the nazis sure LOVED their movie cameras, they film-documented practically EVERYTHING!), it's completely ignorant to deny all that happened.

You'd have to be
Ima B. Dumbass
112 Underarock Lane
Headinthesand, LahLahLand
*forwarding address requested

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Uh, was it also true that the average German citizen was in the same boat? I mean toward the end of the war, there was little food for civilians since the majority of the food was sent to the front lines.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

FR,

I've been wondering about the source of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial and found some insights in this article about the denial conference that prompted world wide criticism:

International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust

...According to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, "speakers emphasized that Holocaust denial is a form of anti-Semitism and that Ahmadinejad is using the theme, together with his threats against Israel, to gain international standing among Arabs."

...A symposium was also held in Jerusalem, entitled, "Holocaust Denial: Paving the Way to Genocide," for members of the diplomatic corps. Its scientific adviser, Yehuda Bauer, said Iran's Holocaust denial was raising objections among Arab intellectuals.[51] Speakers included American Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton; former Israeli Ambassador to the U.N. Dore Gold; Israel's Ambassador to the United States Meir Roseanne; Canadian Parliament member Irwin Cotler; and Harvard University professor Alan Dershowitz. One proposal was entitled, "Bring Ahmadinejad to Justice For Incitement to Genocide."[54][55] Speaking at the symposium, Yigal Carmon of the Middle East Media Research Institute said "the Iranian regime's Holocaust denial is not a manifestation of irrational hatred, but a premeditated and cold-blooded instrument to achieve its goals [of the] denial of Israel's legitimacy [and the] elimination of the Zionist Entity, i.e. Israel."[56]

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ORIGINAL: Moonlightmaddnes

I did not think anyone denied the holocaust. I do not see how anyone could with all the documentation. When I was a teenager my mom had a good friend who's mother still had the tattoo from the concentration camp she was in.

Yes, when I was a kid some concentration camp survivors came to our school to speak about the holocaust. I saw the tattoos up close...I also saw the torture scars (the nazis tattooed and branded the jews purposely because the jewish religion forbids the marking of one's flesh in such a way...so it was done to further demoralize the victims).

The fact that the nazis kept detailed records of arrests and concentration camp activites...as well as all their DOCUMENTARY FILMS I've seen of concentration camp prisoners, starved, dying...and the death-stiffened bodies being bulldozed into pits to be burned/buried (the nazis sure LOVED their movie cameras, they film-documented practically EVERYTHING!), it's completely ignorant to deny all that happened.

You'd have to be
Ima B. Dumbass
112 Underarock Lane
Headinthesand, LahLahLand
*forwarding address requested

Yes