WantsOfTheFlesh
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lol ya must know that poll waz debunked as being total bs
Actually, only the headline was updated:
Survey: Most Israeli Jews wouldn't give Palestinians vote if West Bank was annexed
yup just tha headline but surely a big difference between ‘Most Israelis support an apartheid regime in Israel,’ to " “Survey: Most Israeli Jews wouldn’t give Palestinians vote if West Bank was annexed”. plus in another article gideon levy admitted that he made mistakes but tried ta justfy them. point was by the debunkers that the majority didnt even wanta take tha West Bank besides other things. http://honestreporting.com/haaretz-creates-non-existent-apartheid-state/
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Even granting the change from "apartheid," I'm not sure that's much of an improvement. Too, your source has bias written all over it, whining about the journalist's speaking tour being "sponsored by Anti-Zionists." Well fuck, Zionists brand anybody who disagrees with them an "Anti-Zionist". So what?
if a journo who is supposed ta be impartial is given tha red carpet treatment all over tha world by pally supporters its odd but yeah not enough ta dismiss his views on that score.
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And you neglected to mention other findings of the alternative study you linked.
On one issue there is agreement between Jewish and Arab citizens in Israel – the desire to integrate the Arabs into Israeli society while maintaining a certain separation between the two population groups. Among Jewish citizens, 59 percent expressed support for living separately (in other words, in separate communities or neighborhoods), but with equal status.
Separate but equal? Ahem. No champagne.
i didnt read tha whole report but here both groups were of tha same view. perhaps it was ta maintain their cultural & educatonal distinction but not be isolated coz the next line says
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Neither group is interested in integration when it comes to housing and schooling, but as mentioned, they do expect integration into economic and social life. Both groups want to maintain separate frameworks, while at the same time reducing inequality.
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And, it gets worse..
Most of the Jewish citizens of Israel see the Jewish identity of the country as axiomatic; for them that is its essence and the justification for its existence. Therefore, the clearest, most solid and most inflexible barrier to full equality is the unwillingness of the Jewish citizens to give up the Jewish character of the country, in terms of its identity and of control over it... The Jewish citizens expect the Arab citizens to accept their situation as a minority and refrain from attempting to achieve full equality on the national and symbolic level.
thats an old argument that i support coz tha jews of the ME were persecuted & expelled til just a few decades ago. if all waz hunky dory in tha muz ME then i would agree wit ya.
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I think "apartheid" is a wasted argument, but debunking it will take more than you've got here.
had a few links ta excellent refutations saved when arguing bout the before. see if i can find them later.
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