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Yeah... the whole "internment camp" gig was one of those conspiracy theories that I was tracking and had in the maybe category. Based upon a conversation with a friend I finally decided to dig into it. As it turns out, I was less than impressed with the results of what I'd found starting right out with the fact that the whole thing is hardly new and many of the alleged "camps" have been totally discredited. In other words, much as I like my tinfoil hat this one isn't working for me.
Now... whether or not there are "internment camps" is an entirely separate question from whether the US government is militarizing police and quasi-police entities like the DHS. That, of course, is a given.
Well maybe the discussion should be about the deceptive construction then?
the irony that a thousand man armed march just took place in Michigan?
since everyone is in love with wiki! LOL
If government is so trustworthy and benevolent then why are so many people so upset?
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Rex 84
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Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was an alleged secretive "scenario and drill" developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who are deemed to be "national security threats", in the event that the President declares a "State of National Emergency". The plan states, events causing such a declaration would be widespread U.S. opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invade Central America.[1][2][3][4][5] To combat what the government perceived as "subversive activities", the plan also authorized the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels.[6]
Rex 84 was supposedly written by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, who was both National Security Council White House Aide, and NSC liaison to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and John Brinkerhoff, the deputy director of "national preparedness" programs for the FEMA. They patterned the plan on a 1970 report written by FEMA chief Louis Giuffrida, at the Army War College, which proposed the detention of up to 21 million "American Negroes", if there were a black militant uprising in the United States.[1][7] Existence of a master military contingency plan (of which REX-84 was a part), "Garden Plot" and a similar earlier exercise, "Lantern Spike", were originally revealed by journalist Ron Ridenhour, who summarized his findings in an article in CounterSpy.[8]
Transcripts from the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987 record the following dialogue between Congressman Jack Brooks, Oliver North's attorney Brendan Sullivan and Senator Daniel Inouye, the Democratic Chair of the joint Senate-House Committee:[9]
[Congressman Jack] Brooks: Colonel North, in your work at the N.S.C. were you not assigned, at one time, to work on plans for the continuity of government in the event of a major disaster?
Brendan Sullivan [North's counsel, agitatedly]: Mr. Chairman?
[Senator Daniel] Inouye: I believe that question touches upon a highly sensitive and classified area so may I request that you not touch upon that?
Brooks: I was particularly concerned, Mr. Chairman, because I read in Miami papers, and several others, that there had been a plan developed, by that same agency, a contingency plan in the event of emergency, that would suspend the American constitution. And I was deeply concerned about it and wondered if that was an area in which he had worked. I believe that it was and I wanted to get his confirmation.
Inouye: May I most respectfully request that that matter not be touched upon at this stage. If we wish to get into this, I'm certain arrangements can be made for an executive session.
Conspiracy theorists believe that exercises similar to Rex 84 have happened in the past.[10] For example, from 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of over 100,000 persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.[11]
See also
NSPD-51
COINTELPRO
Non-Detention Act
Posse Comitatus Act
Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007
"The Master Arrest Warrant... directs the head of the FBI to: arrest persons whom I [the U.S. Attorney General] deem dangerous to the public peace and safety. These persons are to be detained and confined until further order.'"1
"[Y]ou could, in the name of stopping terrorism... evoke the military and arrest Americans and put them in detention camps." (U.S. Congressman Henry Gonzalez)2
"‘Intelligence Activities, Senate Resolution 21' exposed the covert agenda... to monitor, infiltrate, arrest and incarcerate a potentially large segment of American society."3
January 2013
North Carolina Police Lieutenant Warns Of Plans For Martial Law In 2013: "...a North Carolina Police Lieutenant calls in to give his first hand knowledge of preparations being made within his own department to train and prepare for martial law in the United States, possibly in the coming year. Many similar reports are starting to trickle in from all across the country..."
November 2012
Hurricane Sandy, Martial Law, and Fema Camps: Rehearsal for Future America? "During the 1980s Iran Contra hearings, Lt. Col. Oliver North was questioned by Congressman Jack Brooks concerning North’s role in the development of a continuity-of-government plan called 'Rex 84' (“Readiness Exercise 1984”), under which the U.S. Constitution would be suspended, and people moved into FEMA camps in the event of a major disaster.... [The] questioning of Congressman Brooks was shut down by the committee chair on the grounds that the subject touched upon a 'highly sensitive and classified area.'" See the video here.
Video: FEMA Camps Update :"...there have been more and more internment camps and prisons built in America. Is the government preparing for civil unrest, and even possibly Martial Law?"
New Nationwide FEMA Camps Should Raise Eyebrows: "The staffing requirement or cadre for FEMA personnel for these camps -- which are identified as being located in five (5) distinct regions throughout and within the borders of the USA, with camps located in each and every state -- was three to fifteen each. The size of these camps will vary around 5 acres per 1,cres for populations of 500 or fewer inhabitants within the camps' boundaries.
"This requirement also had a minimum square footage for each inhabitant: ...approximately 8 feet on each side. This is slightly less than current Federal Court(s) requirements for housing prisoners.... Perimeter fencing or barricades is required to be six feet high...with security restricting all traffic and access....
"Another anomaly was the requirement that the 'off limits' area was to be enclosed before anything else.... Fencing and barricades are required within 36 hours for 'phased' setup timeframes, and 72 hours for the rest..."
"To sum up: the solicitation to bid for the staffing of FEMA camps within 72 hours is a curious proposition, since it appears to predict a calamity that will affect the entire nation simultaneously --completely unlike a location-specific natural disaster.
"...what I found most striking was the 'off limits' areas within each camp and staffing with 'displaced persons'... all undefined. As citizens, we need to know the exact purpose of these camps..." See FEMA Camp Footage
Video: Camp FEMA: American Lockdown - FULL MOVIE - 86 min: "Recent legislation attempting to legitimize the use of internment camps to detain U.S. citizens in the event of an uprising or civil unrest has many people asking what nation they live in.
"In a country born out of political dissent, we watch our leaders in Washington slowly pass bills that label ordinary Americans as thought criminals and potential domestic terrorists for simply questioning the actions of their government. We see third party candidates and their impassioned supporters listed in secret government reports that call their allegiance into question and brand them as fanatics and extremists.
"Senate committee hearings and official FBI documents further illustrate the mindset of our elected officials as they classify homeschoolers, gun rights activists and anti-abortionists as threats against the existing social and political order; by default creating an entire nation of radicals and revolutionaries - where everyone is a suspect equally guilty until proven otherwise.
"How has our government shown that they will deal with these people? The same way as every other totalitarian regime throughout history - marginalize their activities then lock them up. Prisons are being built; internment camps constructed and laws passed that deal severely with anyone who dares to step out of line or ask too many questions.
"Who are the potential domestic terrorists that will end up in these camps? Read the documentation for yourself..."
October 2012
Homeland Security graduates first Corps of Obama’s Brown Shirts – Homeland Youth: "The federal government calls them FEMA Corps. But they conjure up memories of the Hitler Youth of 1930’s Germany. ...aged 18-24 and recruited from the President’s AmeriCorp volunteers, they represent the first wave of DHS’s youth corps, designed specifically to create a full time, paid, standing army of FEMA Youth across the country....
"Over the past two years, President Obama has signed a number of Executive Orders suspending all civil and Constitutional rights.... Also in that time, domestic federal agencies under DHS, including FEMA, have ordered billions of rounds of ammunition as well as the corresponding firearms. Admittedly, these new weapons and ammunition aren’t to be used in some far-off war or to fight forest fires in California, but right here on the streets of America." See Hitler Youth and Obama's "Universal" Service Plan - Part 1: Training a Socialist Army of World Servers
September 2012
Leaked U.S. Army Document Outlines Plan For Re-Education Camps In America: "The document makes it clear that the policies apply 'within U.S. territory' and involve, 'DOD support to U.S. civil authorities for domestic emergencies, and for designated law enforcement and other activities,' including 'man-made disasters, accidents, terrorist attacks and incidents in the U.S. and its territories.'...The manual lists the following roles that are designated to the 'PSYOP team'.
- Identifies malcontents [who are unhappy about Obama?], trained agitators, and political leaders...
- Develops and executes indoctrination programs to reduce or remove antagonistic attitudes.
- Identifies political activists....
- Plans and executes a PSYOP program that produces an understanding and appreciation of U.S. policies and actions." See Barbed Wire Camps for American Citizens
Desert Compound Mystery: "Over the past five months, this 'compound' has taken shape out in the central Arizona desert, in the middle of nowhere near Blackwater and Sacaton Arizona, along the dry Gila River. It looks to be about a quarter mile long by an eighth mile wide. It has razor wire all around it, power lines run to it and about half of it is cleared of vegetation. It is in an inhospitable and inescapable area of the Sonoran desert....You'd be lucky to walk one mile in the summer heat there....Summertime temps are routinely 120 F or even higher. Could this be for Guantanamo Bay detainees? Coming civil unrest? Illegal aliens? Mortgage defaulters? ...I will keep you posted."
Background Information and History of Internment plans:
Rex 84: FEMA’s Blueprint for Martial Law in America (August 20, 2006): "The Cheney/Bush administration has a plan which would accommodate the detention of large numbers of American citizens during times of emergency. The plan is called REX 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state....
"Existence of the Rex 84 plan was first revealed during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987, and subsequently reported by the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987. 'These camps are to be operated by FEMA should martial law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general’s signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached.'
"...the real purpose of FEMA is to not only protect the government but to be its principal vehicle for martial law. ...We are dangerously close to a situation where ~ if the American people took to the streets in righteous indignation or if there were another 9/11 ~ a mechanism for martial law could be quickly implemented and carried out under REX 84."
Oliver North Questioned - Rex 84 Exposed During Iran Contra: "FEMA plans on suspension of the US constitution exposed during Iran contra hearings. Oliver North is questioned by Jack Brooks."
The National Defense Authorization Act is the Greatest Threat to Civil Liberties Americans Face (December 5, 2011): "If Obama does one thing for the remainder of his presidency let it be a veto of the National Defense Authorization Act – a law recently passed by the Senate which would place domestic terror investigations and interrogations into the hands of the military and which would open the door for trial-free, indefinite detention of anyone, including American citizens, so long as the government calls them terrorists. So much for innocent until proven guilty. So much for limited government...."
"Project Overview and Anticipated Project Requirement": "The National Defense Authorization Act is the Greatest Threat to Civil Liberties Americans Face."
Civil Disturbances Support Plan, Coast Guard (COGARD GARDEN PLOT) : The department of the Army Civil Disturbance Plan (DA GARDEN PLOT), promulgated in reference (a), is the governing publication for planning, deployment, employment, and redeployment of federal military resources involved in countering domestic civil disturbances. Coast Guard units may be placed within a Department of Defense (DOD) task force under operational control of the designated task force commander in GARDEN PLOT operations....The secretary of the Army is the Executive Agent for DOD in matters pertaining to civil disturbances."
KBR awarded Homeland Security contract worth up to $385M: "KBR, the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton Co. ...has been awarded a contingency contract from the Department of Homeland Security to supports its Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities in the event of an emergency. ...The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to expand existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."
See also Incremental Steps to Dictatorship
Ive not been shown any reason to believe that letter is not real have you?
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