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Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ?

Yes, and they're welcome.

6% (4)

Yes, and they should be stopped.

6% (4)

No, they always were the scene.

9% (6)

No, they just yap like they are.

9% (6)

I have read the entire post, yet you still don't make sense.

68% (43)

Total Votes : 63

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:12:39 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: zenofeller

excellent question, agirl. i chose to use my arbitrary and improbable definition of the scene as "that part of the BDSM lifestyle that a newbie interacts with" and not tell anyone. so thanks for asking.

I don't really have a clue, in that case...... Who can know what takes place behind the scenes?( 'scuse the pun)..... I don't have a single female friend online or in r/l and never have had.

Are you saying that it's predominantly females that are posting in answer to newbies posts on the message boards?

I'm still not quite sure what you're actually asking.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:15:39 AM

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A MB is not a "place of action" and it does not "control the scene." That would be like arguing THE SPORTS REPORTERS control THE WORLD CUP.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:17:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: Wulfchyld
I actually see that as a good thing.

Like I said- better and worse.

It's good in terms of giving people a sense of belonging, home, and "you're not alone."

It's not so good in terms of females not being like other females, or not wanting that "collective" feeling. They often get brutally shunned.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:22:36 AM

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I was once in a sewing circle. So I can assure you they/we have their own scene. Our sewing circle was more into gifting comforters to the elderly in nursing homes at Xmas, than sewing up corsettes and bondage toys. I suppose bedspreads are Kinky in their own way.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:29:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: zenofeller

First, let's distinguish between feminine and masculine.

I know this is a cliche, in the sense that everyone knows all about it. I know you know all about it and are just going to skip this part. In that case, would you kindly go read something else, because nothing I can ever write will make sense if considered through arbitrary fixed ideas.

Your first hypothesis is flawed. Your following assumptions are not only not along the lines of cliched, they're hardly something "everyone" knows. You're hardly a mind reader, to assume what the rest of us "know" or "don't know"

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It is feminine to depend on your peers for validation. It is feminine to discuss things you have no intention of doing. It is feminine to discuss what other people should do. It is feminine to think a correct solution exists for every problem.

If it is "feminine" to depend on peers for validation, then where do all the strong dominant women, and self assured femme subs, spring from? From personal experience, I've found this trait more often in males than females, regardless of orientation within bdsm. Why else is the concept of a Dick Waving / Pissing Contest so popular, and so often enacted, if not to gain validation of self from Masculine peers?

Feminine to discuss things one has no intention of doing?? No, that's simply a trait of those too cowardly to actually embrace life, both masculine and feminine.

Feminine to discuss what other people "should" do? If that were primarily a feminine trait, then the ratio of male to female dominants would be no where near as schewed as it is towards the male end. I say this on the premis that it is, after all, the dominant in a bdsm/ds/ms context who determines (and states) what someone else "should" do.

Feminine to think a correct solution exists to every problem? While that's highly flattering to those of us who are feminine, it's another overly broad (and incorrect) generalization. It is simply Optimistic to feel that there is a correct solution to every problem, and one need only look hard enough to find it. Making the leap to equate Optimism with Femininity is a far stretch. Flattering, but still a far stretch.

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It is masculine to depend on yourself for validation. It is masculine to do things you have no intention of discussing. It is masculine to discuss what other people can do. It is masculine to think a correct problem exists to sink any solution.

See my comments above in answer to what you assume is seen as "masculine" by the world in general, and myself specifically (since you made the error of assuming you knew me well enough to know what I "knew" in the first place.) As your premises were exclusively the inverse of what YOU assume is seen as "feminine" - you can take the inverse of my responce to those assumptions and apply it to your definition of "masculine" traits.

You need to add another option to your little poll. (And learn to post polls in the forum specifically intended for such, rather than creating unnecessary work for the moderators when they have to move it.) There is no "sewing circle" as the OP intends it to be taken, and never has been.

Are you always prone to vast and grossly innaccurate generalizations, or were you simply having a seriously non-thinking moment when you came up with this? Have you never heard of the concept that there is NO One Right Way to do things in BDSM, or do you simply disagree with the concept and expect everyone to follow your concepts of what should and shouldn't be covered by the umbrella of BDSM related activities? When you created the poll, did you intentionally fail to add an option for people to completely disagree with your premise, or was that simply an oversight?

*puts away her napalm, grumbling*

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:34:07 AM

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Nice napalm.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:44:14 AM

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you've managed to misread most everything i said. but, since you put in the effort to prove it, i'll reciprocate by explaining why.

firstly, the "i know it's cliche, i know you know" was followed by a "so then go read something else". obviously, if you don't already know, and aren't going to just skip things, you are invited to read on. thus, my inital hypothesis isn't flawed because the following assumptions aren't cliche or well known. quite the contrary. and obviously, you're hardly a mind reader yourself if it's not obvious to you i am a mind reader. hows that.

now on to the main course. i plainly state "Bearing in mind that any given person, irrespective of gender, can behave according to either line, and saying "feminine" or "masculine" we are only using a metaphor (btw, it's feminine to imagine by saying x is masculine we are saying males should do x)". yet you wish to know where strong or dominant women spring from.

now it's not my fault you have arbitrary fixed ideas, such as, for instance, that feminine is what women do, irrespective of anything said for a definition. but to my credit, i did warn you that nothing I can ever write will make sense if considered through such a prism. and btw, none of us are feminine. some might be female. not the same thing. but to make things clear, i do not assume anything, and especially that anything is seen as anything else. i define. you're bound.

now saying "there is no sewing circle", while amusing in it's "there is no cabal" undertones, is a tall order. are you going to prove it or just offer on autority ?

and off to desert, the ad hominems (of course).

i never said anything about there being or not being one or multiple right ways. i never put forth any BDSM "concepts" whatsoever that i might want or not want others to go by. the option for people to disagree is provided, in the form of "i have read, you don't make sense".

now, as you may see, the entire purpose of this thread is to confront people with their own fixations. people in general imagine they are independent, free thinkers, and people into BDSM especially. yet, all it takes is a few well crafted phrases to make them expose a thousand and one fixations, unexamined convictions and so forth.

but, don't be upset, it's a learning experience, and you may be gratefull.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:47:24 AM

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Loki,

That creates a target rich environment, doesn't it?

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:49:03 AM

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quote:

now, as you may see, the entire purpose of this thread is to confront people with their own fixations. people in general imagine they are independent, free thinkers, and people into BDSM especially. yet, all it takes is a few well crafted phrases to make them expose a thousand and one fixations, unexamined convictions and so forth.

but, don't be upset, it's a learning experience, and you may be gratefull.

We haven't had an intentional button pusher around in quite awhile. It will be interesting to see if you actually have talents and perspectives to offer beyond simply poking fires.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:50:04 AM

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Translation please?

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:52:59 AM

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ORIGINAL: zenofeller

i am a mind reader. hows that.

Ah ha!!! Your this little guy... http://www.freeworldgroup.com/games/wacko2/index.html

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 6:55:52 AM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross
We haven't had an intentional button pusher around in quite awhile.

a tough job, innit.

btw, i notice the witch doctor you linked wants 5 bucks to explain the trick. here it is for free :

if you substract the sum of it's digits from any two digit number, you can only get a two digit number divisible by 9. guess why gates occupies the slots 18, 27, 36, 45, 54 etc ?

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 7:15:51 AM

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I haven't a fecking clue what he is on about!

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 7:24:57 AM

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I think your definitions of feminine and masculine are way off base. Generalizations usually are. I can think of specific examples where each statement is false.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 8:09:10 AM

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* tilts head at the op then smiling I toss my panties into the Lokiwood pantie collection and beams*

To the Op, I've got no clue what your whinging about. I've known men who could get into groups and gossip more then any female. I know, I know you said either gender could cross over, but I think you said that merely to save your own ass later when people got offended. I'm not offended, I'm girly and DAMN proud of it, if that means I'm going to join a sewing circle (though I don't sew) then all the better for me, if that means I'm taking over the scene..well then my evil plan is working. First I will take over the scene, one dominant at a time, then next the WORLD. Oh yes the world shall be mine! Mauhahahahahahahahahaha!! * smiles....evily*

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 8:11:28 AM

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Come on over sweetums, i'll teach you to sew.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 8:21:50 AM

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I agree with You and Loki here. It is a very good thing.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 8:26:41 AM

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Nothing here but confused generalizations.

Be choherent, and you might get some choherent replies-garbage in garbage out.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 8:28:42 AM

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I agree with You and Loki here. It is a very good thing.

Whew!! There for awhile art I thought you were pissed at me for hijacking your hijack thread.

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RE: Is the sewing circle taking over the scene ? - 6/26/2006 8:48:00 AM

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I don't know how to sew, don't want to know. But I can wield whip or flogger and do just dandy.

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