Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict

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Zimmerman will be acquited, and justice will have been served

34% (12)

Zimmerman will be aquitted, but justice will not have been served.

17% (6)

Zimmerman will be rightfully convicted.

14% (5)

Zimmerman will be wrongfully convicted.

2% (1)

I can't predict the verdict, but I feel Zimmerman is innocent.

14% (5)

I can't predict the verdict, but I feel Zimmerman is guilty

17% (6)

Total Votes : 35

(last vote on : 7/4/2013 5:06:15 PM)
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cloudboy -> Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 4:33:10 PM)
The prosecution is about to rest. Many of you have been reading about the case. What do you predict the jury verdict to be in the George Zimmerman case, and what feelings do you have about it?

kdsub -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 4:51:29 PM)
Too early...all the evidence has not been presented.. I'll wait until the prosecution is done anyway. Butch

cloudboy -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 5:15:13 PM)
From my readings, my feeling is that Zimmerman will be acquitted. Justice will not be served if Zimmerman walks scot-free, but I'm not 100% sure what he deserves. I am 100% sure that T. Martin, 17 years old, should not have been shot to death while walking home in his own neighborhood with skittles in his pocket. I don't know if there are any lesser charges underneath 2nd Degree Murder (manslaughter, reckless endangerment, aggravated stalking for instance) before the jury for consideration.

Owner59 -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 5:30:46 PM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nghqjBwZTiE

Yachtie -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 5:35:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cloudboy should not have been shot to death while walking home in his own neighborhood with skittles in his pocket. So, it's the skittles is it?[8\|]

DomKen -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 6:04:58 PM)
Despite the howling by certain parties the prosecution did build a case for the elements of 2nd degree murder. They also showed that Zimmerman lied, differing accounts of whether or not he had lost control of the gun and his interview with Hannity where he lied about knowing the states self defense and SYG laws. Juries tend to convict liars. The defense has a real problem, if they put Zimmerman on the stand he gets cross examined which would bring in the prescription drugs, history of violence etc. etc. or stick to experts and character witnesses and hope they can convince the jury that Zimmerman's lies does not mean he lied about what happened that night. And in cases like this the jury does like to hear from the defendant. Of course no lawyer in his right mind lets Zimmerman testify so I think its 50/50 conviction or hung jury.

TheHeretic -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 6:07:46 PM)
My gut says we are going to get either a not guilty, or a hung jury on the charges filed. If the only options are the murder conviction, or an acquittal, then justice isn't even on the table for discussion I do believe that Zimmerman's decision to get out of the car led to the death of Martin, and that ought to be a manslaughter conviction. I think the judge can offer the jury a lesser offense than the 2nd degree murder charge when she gives the instructions. The defense, of course, still gets the opportunity to present their case, if they feel the need to bother.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 6:22:42 PM)
If Zimmerman isn't acquitted, it will be a travesty. Zimmerman could just have easily been parking his car to walk to *HIS* home when saint thug decided that he was being "followed". The bone of contention is the physical violence/Zimmerman reasonably believing he was in danger of death or bodily injury. That's where things went tits up. Sorry but I come from a place where just about any hour of the day or night, you're walking in front of or behind somebody. If that's cause to get a wild hair up one's ass, I seriously suggest avoiding a vacation in NYC. Peace and comfort, Michael

Owner59 -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 6:29:06 PM)
Yup,black guys scare you....we get it....

BamaD -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 6:34:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen Despite the howling by certain parties the prosecution did build a case for the elements of 2nd degree murder. They also showed that Zimmerman lied, differing accounts of whether or not he had lost control of the gun and his interview with Hannity where he lied about knowing the states self defense and SYG laws. Juries tend to convict liars. The defense has a real problem, if they put Zimmerman on the stand he gets cross examined which would bring in the prescription drugs, history of violence etc. etc. or stick to experts and character witnesses and hope they can convince the jury that Zimmerman's lies does not mean he lied about what happened that night. And in cases like this the jury does like to hear from the defendant. Of course no lawyer in his right mind lets Zimmerman testify so I think its 50/50 conviction or hung jury. Are you kidding Zimmerman should be paying the prosecution, directed verdict is in order.

TheHeretic -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 6:36:22 PM)
Then this is another matter where we are going to be in great disagreement, Michael. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, but Zimmerman wasn't walking from his car to his apartment. He didn't just happen to be taking the same path. He was stalking the "fucking punk," I don't believe he had murder in his heart or mind, and I think he panicked when it turned ugly, but he made choices that ended with a young man dead.

BamaD -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 6:36:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Yup,black guys scare you....we get it.... No they don't, you have missed the point completely.

BamaD -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 6:38:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Then this is another matter where we are going to be in great disagreement, Michael. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, but Zimmerman wasn't walking from his car to his apartment. He didn't just happen to be taking the same path. He was stalking the "fucking punk," I don't believe he had murder in his heart or mind, and I think he panicked when it turned ugly, but he made choices that ended with a young man dead. Two weeks after the Zimmerman incident a man in NYC was killed, one punch head hit pavement he was dead. In his situation the next blow could be fatal regardless of Martins intentions.

igor2003 -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 7:02:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Then this is another matter where we are going to be in great disagreement, Michael. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, but Zimmerman wasn't walking from his car to his apartment. He didn't just happen to be taking the same path. He was stalking the "fucking punk," I don't believe he had murder in his heart or mind, and I think he panicked when it turned ugly, but he made choices that ended with a young man dead. Two weeks after the Zimmerman incident a man in NYC was killed, one punch head hit pavement he was dead. In his situation the next blow could be fatal regardless of Martins intentions. And that is a risk that Zimmerman CHOSE to take when he profiled Martin, followed him, got out of his truck to chase Martin, ignored Neighborhood Watch protocols, and ignored the NEN dispatcher. But of course there are a lot of people in today's society that feel that Zimmerman shouldn't be held responsible for the death he caused by his own willful misconduct.

Rule -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 7:30:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I do believe that Zimmerman's decision to get out of the car led to the death of Martin What about people who decide to get into their car, knowing full well that they may kill or seriously hurt someone in a traffic incident?

Owner59 -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 7:41:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I do believe that Zimmerman's decision to get out of the car led to the death of Martin What about people who decide to get into their car, knowing full well that they may kill or seriously hurt someone in a traffic incident? [sm=rofl.gif]

Kirata -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 7:43:16 PM)
I never knew that simply exiting an automobile to observe and follow someone could cause their death. Thanks for that. I love learning new things. K.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 7:43:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic Then this is another matter where we are going to be in great disagreement, Michael. Coulda, shoulda, woulda, but Zimmerman wasn't walking from his car to his apartment. He didn't just happen to be taking the same path. He was stalking the "fucking punk," I don't believe he had murder in his heart or mind, and I think he panicked when it turned ugly, but he made choices that ended with a young man dead. And St. Skittles didn't make any wrong choices, confronting the "creepy-ass, white, kill-my-neighbors, cracker" (There are people here that would want to string a white man up by his balls, if I posted a few words, differently)? You *really* think there was no aggression from the little darling? (by the way, I didn't call him a "fucking punk" although I do believe he thought himself a "li'l' gangsta) Peace and comfort, Michael

Owner59 -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 7:44:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata I never knew that simply exiting an automobile to observe and follow someone could cause their death. Thanks for that. I love learning new things. K. Must we share your passion for ignorance?

DaddySatyr -> RE: Zimmerman Con't / Predict the Verdict (7/3/2013 7:48:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata I never knew that simply exiting an automobile to observe and follow someone could cause their death. Thanks for that. I love learning new things. K. That's it, mister! From now on, you just live in your fuckin' car, pal. [:D] Peace and comfort, Michael

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