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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 3:39:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

And what made Trayvon a thug? Nothing but his skin color.

Well you may think that made him a thug, but I would have to disagree. In fact I can't recall ever calling him one. I did have a few choice words about zimmy though. But I don't expect that to stop you from claiming I have. Seems to be SOP with you lately.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 3:44:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Point out something akin to racism I have been okay with, giving a quote of mine as an example, and I will get back to you.

Sure. Racism, in common with many other injustices, consists of prejudicial judgments for which facts are lacking. So let's go with you running around branding people and their posts as "racist" on no other basis than your personal infallible judgment, which includes the judgment that any contrary view is "bollocks".

The song is racist
Think what you will, the song is racist bollocks

Next question?

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 3:47:18 PM

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If he assumes a thug to be black... I think the conclusion is obvious.

We have a winner!

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 3:47:41 PM

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What of those that mistake racism with xenophobia?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 3:52:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Point out something akin to racism I have been okay with, giving a quote of mine as an example, and I will get back to you.

Sure. Racism, in common with many other injustices, consists of prejudicial judgments for which facts are lacking. So let's go with you running around branding people and their posts as "racist" on no other basis than your personal infallible judgment, which includes the judgment that any contrary view is "bollocks".

The song is racist
Think what you will, the song is racist bollocks

Next question?

K.

I note that, as expected, you didnt back up the claim you made. Anytime soon will help.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 3:54:58 PM

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What of those that mistake racism with xenophobia?

What if they mistake if for bigotry?

They are all based on judging a whole group based on the actions of some or your perceptions of how they should be. It all boils down to ignorance no matter what label you put on it.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 3:56:37 PM

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That was a while back and we had moved on to DK's insanity with K. But since you insist on bringing it back up. yea there was nothing racist in the post you had originally quoted and that hasn't changed. Now perhaps it's time to take a few breaths before you burst a blood vessel and chill. Then you can go back to doing what you do best. Calling people stupid for daring to disagree with you. That's a good chap.

If I called you stupid, you need to go work it out.

I have been talking about the song, and if it was racist or not all along. It seems to be others who are shifting the topic to Ken and so dont accuse me of going off track when thats exactly what you are doing.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:01:15 PM

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What of those that mistake racism with xenophobia?

What if they mistake if for bigotry?

They are all based on judging a whole group based on the actions of some or your perceptions of how they should be. It all boils down to ignorance no matter what label you put on it.

Ah, so youre pissed because I called the song racist and not bigotry...... At least you are finally starting to get it.

Did you consider the lyrics about "killing an ethnic minority" (Or simialr) racist or bigoted ?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:03:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

That was a while back and we had moved on to DK's insanity with K. But since you insist on bringing it back up. yea there was nothing racist in the post you had originally quoted and that hasn't changed. Now perhaps it's time to take a few breaths before you burst a blood vessel and chill. Then you can go back to doing what you do best. Calling people stupid for daring to disagree with you. That's a good chap.

If I called you stupid, you need to go work it out.

I have been talking about the song, and if it was racist or not all along. It seems to be others who are shifting the topic to Ken and so dont accuse me of going off track when thats exactly what you are doing.

I've got to go work something out because you called me stupid....now that has to be the funniest thing I have read on here in a long time. And I never said we didn't go off track. I just pointed out that we weren't talking about you anymore.

But hey you want things on track. lets do that. Here anything about zimmy? Maybe he followed the wrong thug and ended up as gator food somewhere?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:04:21 PM

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It seems to be others who are shifting the topic to Ken and so dont accuse me of going off track when thats exactly what you are doing.

It was Ken who shifted the topic to Ken. If you're jealous, maybe you should have a chat with him about it.

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:05:14 PM

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The prosecution was able to keep information about Trayvons past out of the trial, but it is indisputable, and certainly relevant for our judgment of him.

According to NBC news Tayvon was involved in organized street violence, and was taking pictures of Guns with his cellphone, and sending violent texts a week before his death. Which occurred after he decided he didn't like being watched (while creeping around peoples windows in the rain), confronted and attacked the neighborhood watch guy. Who, unfortunately for Trayvon was armed, and after his nose was broken and on the ground continued to take blows from Trayvon, before he shot the young man.

Seems pretty reasonable to call him a thug.
And not a single bit of that has anything to do with his color.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/07/18832092-jurys-look-into-trayvon-martins-past-has-its-limits?lite link to the judge suppressing information about Trayvon's recent behavior

You can think of him as a thug if you want. Personally I think he was a mixed up kid who lost his shot of turning his life around when he met zimmy. Everyone's perception will be different.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:06:50 PM

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: ReduxPersona

What of those that mistake racism with xenophobia?

What if they mistake if for bigotry?

They are all based on judging a whole group based on the actions of some or your perceptions of how they should be. It all boils down to ignorance no matter what label you put on it.

Ah, so youre pissed because I called the song racist and not bigotry...... At least you are finally starting to get it.

Did you consider the lyrics about "killing an ethnic minority" (Or simialr) racist or bigoted ?

Hate to disappoint but you were not on my mind at all when I made that comment and it had nothing to do with your posts. Oh and since we are clearing things up, I am not pissed either. Hungry, yes, but that's ok because the ribs are here and I am going to go eat.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:09:54 PM

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Ah, so youre pissed because I called the song racist and not bigotry...

Did you consider the lyrics about "killing an ethnic minority" (Or simialr) racist or bigoted ?

That would be the lyric that read, "But the lefties all cried, 'Cause a minority died." Didn't somebody say something recently about, "prejudicial judgments for which facts are lacking"?

Maybe you didn't understand because of the big words.

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:15:51 PM

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Ah, so youre pissed because I called the song racist and not bigotry...

Did you consider the lyrics about "killing an ethnic minority" (Or simialr) racist or bigoted ?

That would be the lyric that read, "But the lefties all cried, 'Cause a minority died". Didn't somebody say something recently about, "prejudicial judgments for which facts are lacking"?

Maybe you didn't understand it because of the big words.

K.

Maybe you are talking shit......yet again.

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ORIGINAL: SadistDave

Little George Zimmerman sat in the corner,
Aquitted of murdering Martin.
But the lefties all cried,
'Cause a minority died
Without being sucked from the womb using a shop vac!

Okay, I know that last line needs some work. I think I can do a little better though, so how about this:

<< SD`s own words.

I will ask you what I asked Boi, do you consider this racist or not ?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:20:45 PM

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ORIGINAL: lucky7dawg

Also what you have to realize is that this is simply a Democratic Campaign Tactic. PS, DK et al, don't give a flying fuck about dead black kids, just about electing Democrats. That is demonstrated by the massive number of LIES that have to be told to even make the Pro Trayvon argument.

He was not walking down the street, he was up by people's windows, his "girlfriend" stated this.

He was not hunted down and shot at a distance

He was not shot in the head.

He did not live in that neighborhood.

Zimmerman is not a white racist Republican.

Trayvon was not an angel.

Zimmerman did have his nose broken and was covered in blood.

it goes on and on and on and on.

We can expect a federal indictment of Zimmerman shortly before the 2016 elections, so that its a big controversy during the election.

This is all political.

If it was actually about Trayvon, we would deal in the reality of what happened. And would take a look at the massive organized criminal operations that are targeting young black men like Trayvon to turn them into Thugs (take away their opportunity for anything else in life) and young black women to turn them into whores/ slaves.

But there are zero threads about that. Zero.

Which speaks volumes about those that want to lie about the facts of the case and make it political. And yeah I think that it is racist to use black kids like that.

New name, same bullshit........ How the fuck could I elect a democrat since I am in the UK and what makes you think my voting Conservative is left wing.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:41:53 PM

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English is your native language, isn't it PS? So why are you making up shit? I didn't call you left wing. And I didn't say you "could elect a Democrat"

It was funny, your post where you are shouting about how you are not posting emotionally.

And I will take your ignoring what I actually accused you of, as an admission that I am correct.

Well arsehole, you are incorrect.

" PS, DK et al, don't give a flying fuck about dead black kids, just about electing Democrats."

1) Most of you insist anyone voting democrat is a leftie.
2) You clearly state all ken and myself are worried about is electing democrats, I asked you how I could do that, since I am in the UK.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:42:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I will ask you what I asked Boi, do you consider this racist or not ?

I think you've reached the point where you need to decide between quitting while you're behind, or wearing a clown suit. You started out claiming that the rhyme was racist, period. When you were called to say why, you shifted feet and claimed it was the sentiment behind it that was racist, which, of course, you claimed to "know". When questioned about this apparent mind-reading ability, you claimed that your conclusion was based on SD's posting history. But you failed to produce anything to support that claim, and now you're back on the first foot again, the song is "racist" period.

My advice is to find another dance instructor. Your current one is robbing you.

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:47:13 PM

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I`ll take that as a "No" then K.

You still havent mentioned what I was on about, the second set of lyrics. And if I do need a clown suit, can I borrow yours ?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:55:50 PM

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And what made Trayvon a thug? Nothing but his skin color.

Well you may think that made him a thug, but I would have to disagree. In fact I can't recall ever calling him one. I did have a few choice words about zimmy though. But I don't expect that to stop you from claiming I have. Seems to be SOP with you lately.

So what makes Trayvon a thug?. Exactly. Dave says he's a thug. So what makes him a thug if not the color of his skin?

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 4/1/2014 4:57:19 PM

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sure call me an asshole, its all you got.

And I notice you are still running from my accusations, and trying to argue something I never said....

An admission that you know I am correct.

Straw manning and insults is about all you got child, funny as shit.

Grow up........ I clearly posted what you said and what I had replied. And if I do call you an arsehole...go figure.

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