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ORIGINAL: Nosathro

First of all a bull whip is not made of cord, I know a person who makes bull whips and that not how it is made. You are sighting a single incident so I fail to see justification for guns, also you have a lot of assumptions. Perhaps you are confused between religion and movie Zardoz?

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Who is we ? You guys already pretty much disgarded whatever rights you had to own firearms. You don't see us pushing the British to arm themselves. What's the big concern in disarming us ?

We Brits just like looking down our noses at you and oppressing you, LM. That's what it's about. I hope that helps.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Who is we ? You guys already pretty much disgarded whatever rights you had to own firearms. You don't see us pushing the British to arm themselves. What's the big concern in disarming us ?

We Brits just like looking down our noses at you and oppressing you, LM. That's what it's about. I hope that helps.

I didn't know. We over here really love you guys, ya know like we speak the same language, share a common history and all that. We feel bad that the government confiscated most of your registered firearms. That's why I'm proposing we start shipping over some firepower. Then we can be equal again.


ARM THE BRITISH!!!!!!!!!!

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Who is we ? You guys already pretty much disgarded whatever rights you had to own firearms. You don't see us pushing the British to arm themselves. What's the big concern in disarming us ?

We Brits just like looking down our noses at you and oppressing you, LM. That's what it's about. I hope that helps.

I didn't know. We over here really love you guys, ya know like we speak the same language, share a common history and all that. We feel bad that the government confiscated most of your registered firearms. That's why I'm proposing we start shipping over some firepower. Then we can be equal again.


ARM THE BRITISH!!!!!!!!!!

Firstly, we don't speak the same language.
You speak American, we speak English.
You bastardised the English language, changed all sorts of spellings (probably because the early settlers could barely read or write so they spelled as it sounded), changed the meanings of many words, and introduced new words for identical items (hood-bonnet, trunk-boot, faucet-tap etc).

Secondly, most of us Brits don't want firearms!
By having virtually all firearms abolished from our streets, Britain is a far safer place than the US.
Sure, many still have them for target practice, some hunting etc; so they aren't banned.
But.... like Australia, firearms in the streets are illegal and we can walk about safely for the most part.
And before someone pipes up about knives - a knife-wielding villain can be taken down a shit-load easier than a gun-wielding one.

Did you hear on the news only last night??
A greek man said he was fed up with the guns and violence and wants to leave Greece to come to Britain where it's far safer for him and his family to live. Even he has seen that our strict gun controls work.

We'll just sit back and watch you slowly destroy or injure each other on a regular basis until the penny drops.


ETA: We might have felt bad at the time when they outlawed guns in the streets.
But now, we see the huge benefits. Maybe you should take heed and do the same??
Naaaa.... you won't give up your precious guns until your family are wiped out by them.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
First you have to know that Lovemuffins comments were made in jest.
Second I don't believe in telling you what your laws are, not my problem and by extension not my business.
Just wish you guys would display the same level of decorum.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
First you have to know that Lovemuffins comments were made in jest.
Second I don't believe in telling you what your laws are, not my problem and by extension not my business.
Just wish you guys would display the same level of decorum.

I don't tell you what your laws are either.
All I'm saying, jest or not, that we actually don't speak the same language and by not staying with your example in the US we have made the UK a far safer place to live in and to visit.

And considering that, like us, you have a large tourist industry, it becomes a global concern to everyone.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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Who is we ? You guys already pretty much disgarded whatever rights you had to own firearms. You don't see us pushing the British to arm themselves. What's the big concern in disarming us ?

We Brits just like looking down our noses at you and oppressing you, LM. That's what it's about. I hope that helps.

I didn't know. We over here really love you guys, ya know like we speak the same language, share a common history and all that. We feel bad that the government confiscated most of your registered firearms. That's why I'm proposing we start shipping over some firepower. Then we can be equal again.


ARM THE BRITISH!!!!!!!!!!

Firstly, we don't speak the same language.
You speak American, we speak English.
You bastardised the English language, changed all sorts of spellings (probably because the early settlers could barely read or write so they spelled as it sounded), changed the meanings of many words, and introduced new words for identical items (hood-bonnet, trunk-boot, faucet-tap etc).

Secondly, most of us Brits don't want firearms!
By having virtually all firearms abolished from our streets, Britain is a far safer place than the US.
Sure, many still have them for target practice, some hunting etc; so they aren't banned.
But.... like Australia, firearms in the streets are illegal and we can walk about safely for the most part.
And before someone pipes up about knives - a knife-wielding villain can be taken down a shit-load easier than a gun-wielding one.

Did you hear on the news only last night??
A greek man said he was fed up with the guns and violence and wants to leave Greece to come to Britain where it's far safer for him and his family to live. Even he has seen that our strict gun controls work.

We'll just sit back and watch you slowly destroy or injure each other on a regular basis until the penny drops.


ETA: We might have felt bad at the time when they outlawed guns in the streets.
But now, we see the huge benefits. Maybe you should take heed and do the same??
Naaaa.... you won't give up your precious guns until your family are wiped out by them.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


And considering that, like us, you have a large tourist industry, it becomes a global concern to everyone.

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ORIGINAL: lovmuffin

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1


And considering that, like us, you have a large tourist industry, it becomes a global concern to everyone.

Don't concern yourself over that. Despite much of the hyperbole on this thread and others, its quite safe to tour in the US. You just need a little bit of common sense like stay out of gang infested neighborhoods, don't take short cuts through dark allies at night and stay out of one room redneck bars with pool tables.

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1





And, because of our laws, we have very few 'gang infested' neighbourhoods.
I'm not saying we don't have them - just far fewer per capita than in the US.
And of course, even fewer of them posess guns with which to threaten people with.

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I have no intention of ever going back there again - not even for a vacation in Disneyland..........
.......I certainly don't consider it safe to go visiting/touring -

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heard of Londoners going to New York or Los Angeles who compare the experience to that of a country yokel in Britain moving to the big city. It seems to me that American city-dwellers, particularly, live in a state of terror that no-one outside of the USA really understands. Americans, in general, seem to have no idea of how savage their country looks to outsiders.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

LM,

Our 'gang infested' neighbourhoods are typified by little areas in the big cities where you might get mugged at knifepoint. That's it. That's all it is.

I've heard of Londoners going to New York or Los Angeles who compare the experience to that of a country yokel in Britain moving to the big city. It seems to me that American city-dwellers, particularly, live in a state of terror that no-one outside of the USA really understands. Americans, in general, seem to have no idea of how savage their country looks to outsiders. You see how few non-Americans have involved themselves in this thread - and how half-hearted (including me) they've been if they've said anything at all? This is because, I'd guess, we just don't understand how you could possibly want to organise a society the way you do. It looks alien to us. Perverted, actually.

The average American view of guns looks nothing short of disgusting to most members of most First World countries. I mean that.

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I hear gunfire all the time.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I've never heard a gunshot in my entire life.

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I've never heard a gunshot in my entire life.

So, with that base of knowledge, why do you presume to speak as if you know what you are talking about to people who sometimes need to make them happen?

Have you ever had a four foot long rattlesnake take an attitude with you on your front porch? Gone out at 1:00 a.m. to deal with a speed freak who set off the alarm at a friend's business? Provided meat for your family that didn't come from a store?

Guns aren't part of your life or culture. Fine. What qualifies you though, to pass judgement on people whose lives and culture are different from your own?

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic
What qualifies you though, to pass judgement on people whose lives and culture are different from your own?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD
They are European and thus culturally superior.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I did. I qualified me to pass judgment, Rich. I hope that helps.