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Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive/sla... - 10/16/2013 9:36:18 PM   
kevin32


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It seems the dynamic of the master/slave relationship is guided by consent and respect for all persons involved.

Was there a time when you were "forced" to be submissive/compliant/obedient to someone? And by "forced" I mean against your will, but you couldn't find a way to escape your circumstance so you dealt with it and eventually grew to love it?
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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/16/2013 9:57:19 PM   
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You are speaking of abuse and Stockholm Syndrome and that would not be considered BDSM, but instead against the law. BDSM is about consent without consent it is just abuse.


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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/16/2013 10:05:39 PM   
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No, that has never happened to me. If it had there would be someone I in jail doing time for it. Holding someone captive against their will is considered kidnapping. That is a felony.

Reminds me of two guys in a city a few hundred miles from here. They really started taking the Master thing seriously. They kidnapped a couple Asian exchange students, raped them, and beat them. I think the guys were thinking that Asian women would be too ashamed to go to the police. They thought wrong.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/16/2013 10:23:57 PM   
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It's something that has been 'suggested' to me by a couple of cyberdoms here on cm over the years.

When I pointed out what they wanted was actually illegal, immoral and downright evil, I got a lot of abuse back for bursting their little fap-bubbles.

This stuff is only fantasy (or it should be). Anyone suggesting it is just looking to pay into their wank bank. I point them in the direction of the godawful 'Beauty' series and wish them luck

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/16/2013 10:52:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

It seems the dynamic of the master/slave relationship is guided by consent and respect for all persons involved.

Was there a time when you were "forced" to be submissive/compliant/obedient to someone? And by "forced" I mean against your will, but you couldn't find a way to escape your circumstance so you dealt with it and eventually grew to love it?


Since I wanted to keep my job, I was forced for a while to be obedient to a boss that I had no respect for.
When I was in labor there was a particular doctor who didn't give me a lot of choice.
I'm currently having to jump through some legal hoops due to someone else's mistake and I'm not terribly happy about having to comply with these things.

In none of those situations did I grow to love it.

However, I expect what you are hoping for is a literotica style tale of capture and/or blackmail which ends in fabulous sex. Alas, no. I have been compelled to do things that I didn't want to do, and got some satisfaction from knowing I served him, but that was already within an established relationship of trust and consent. In other words, I consented in advance, knowing it would sometimes include things I would not do willingly.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/16/2013 11:04:31 PM   
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You go, girl!

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ORIGINAL: AdorkableAiley

You are speaking of abuse and Stockholm Syndrome and that would not be considered BDSM, but instead against the law. BDSM is about consent without consent it is just abuse.


(If you don't mind my saying.)

OP-- At first glance, I assumed you were one of many wank-foddering male subs caught up in Amazon FemDom fantasies. But seeing that you are a Dom who says he is "new to the community," your post is disturbing. You must be suffering from Toxic-Shock Porno Over-Saturation syndrome (TSPOSS, as I'll coin it), and you need to get your head out of your arse before you start play-acting Dom, fantasizing about forcing some unsuspecting person into becoming your sub/slave. (You don't disclose your own sexual orientation nor what you're looking for.) Not only BDSM, but D/s-M/s is not a free-for-all, dude, and this isn't the Wild Wild West.


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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/16/2013 11:07:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TigressLily


You go, girl!

quote:

ORIGINAL: AdorkableAiley

You are speaking of abuse and Stockholm Syndrome and that would not be considered BDSM, but instead against the law. BDSM is about consent without consent it is just abuse.


(If you don't mind my saying.)

OP-- At first glance, I assumed you were one of many wank-foddering male subs caught up in Amazon FemDom fantasies. But seeing that you are a Dom who says he is "new to the community," your post is disturbing. You must be suffering from Toxic-Shock Porno Over-Saturation syndrome (TSPOSS, as I'll coin it), and you need to get your head out of your arse before you start play-acting Dom, fantasizing about forcing some unsuspecting person into becoming your sub/slave. (You don't disclose your own sexual orientation nor what you're looking for.) Not only BDSM, but D/s-M/s is not a free-for-all, dude, and this isn't the Wild Wild West.



I was concerned when I read his profile too. If this is what he is fantasizing about I hope he has enough grounding in reality to know that is just a fantasy and that nothing can come of it.


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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 6:17:57 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: myotherself

fap-bubbles.





Well there's an image.



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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 6:22:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: AdorkableAiley

You are speaking of abuse and Stockholm Syndrome and that would not be considered BDSM, but instead against the law. BDSM is about consent without consent it is just abuse.


Ailey


that's correct, so original poster, please free the person you are keeping prisoner, his/her self-preservation instinct won't spare you from developping in the future true love for the bigger guy serving a life time sentence just two cells next to yours.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 9:23:28 AM   
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I find it funny that a question I asked about someone else's experience would be turned around to imply something was wrong with me.

Yes, I'm new to BDSM and inquisitive about this world. But any question I ask does not imply that I want to partake in its nature. I just like to know about different experiences from others who've been there, and what's it like from their perspective. I do appreciate those who were forthcoming with a response.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 9:35:02 AM   
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Without consent, it's a crime.

You're asking about illegal activities. We're talking federal charges of kidnapping, false imprisonment, abuse and rape, etc. You're asking if someone has ever come to love being the victim of those crimes. And...you wonder why people are suggesting that there's something wrong with you?

I'll also add that if you have to "force" someone to submit....then you're not really dominant.





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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 10:13:26 AM   
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Yes, I was compelled into becoming someones slave. NO I never learned to love it.
quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

It seems the dynamic of the master/slave relationship is guided by consent and respect for all persons involved.

Was there a time when you were "forced" to be submissive/compliant/obedient to someone? And by "forced" I mean against your will, but you couldn't find a way to escape your circumstance so you dealt with it and eventually grew to love it?



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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 10:51:49 AM   
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Touché, mon ami.

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Without consent, it's a crime.

You're asking about illegal activities. We're talking federal charges of kidnapping, false imprisonment, abuse and rape, etc. You're asking if someone has ever come to love being the victim of those crimes. And...you wonder why people are suggesting that there's something wrong with you?

I'll also add that if you have to "force" someone to submit....then you're not really dominant.


This has nothing to do with BDSM. It would just make you a pervy lowlife sex offender, no better than your neighborhood child molester lurking in the bushes or driving around in your capture van. Take a tip from eulero, who was being gracious. It will be your hairy, sweaty cellmate and the rest of the inmates on your cell block passing you around like fresh meat. Speculate and fantasize about that.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 11:06:30 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

I find it funny that a question I asked about someone else's experience would be turned around to imply something was wrong with me.

Yes, I'm new to BDSM and inquisitive about this world. But any question I ask does not imply that I want to partake in its nature. I just like to know about different experiences from others who've been there, and what's it like from their perspective. I do appreciate those who were forthcoming with a response.



Is it really such a stretch to imagine that asking about an activity implies interest in it? You're being disingenuous here.

People have expressed that this is not an ok activity, and suddenly now you're just gathering information about something that you have no personal interest in.

If you were on an information gathering mission I'm sure you'd have mentioned that upfront, but it didn't go the way you wanted, so now you're trying to dig your way out.

Here's a gem for you since you're all about finding things out....consent. BDSM is all about consent- which you also acknowledged. If there is no consent, it is abuse. Consent is the magic word. The situation you described is not consensual, and is therefore not BDSM.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 2:21:55 PM   
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From what i know from my many years in the lifestyle is SCC safe sand and CONSUNSAL if you don't have all 3 it is abuse and as others saud againest the law. Anyway why would you want a sub/slave that did not want to be there? I serve my Master because i love him and i accepted his collar. It was my choice wehter to be his or not. You want a slave/sub to serve because s/he wants to, not becauuse tjey are being forced into it. That is just weong in so many ways.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 2:23:09 PM   
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I've had things that I couldn't think through and asked him to restrain me and do it to me. But I recognized my own conflict and sought Alexander's approach to the Gordian knot.

But no, I have never been kidnapped and sold into sexual slavery. Nor would I expect to find it acceptable in any way, shape or means.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 3:05:02 PM   
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To the OP, yes, that did happen to me.

I was kidnapped by Channing Tatum and forced to serve him and have nonstop sex for weeks. He made me his slave and I could not escape.

Then, I woke up from the dream I was having and had to face reality.

Channing is married, so that was a deal breaker.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 3:27:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kevin32

I find it funny that a question I asked about someone else's experience would be turned around to imply something was wrong with me.

Yes, I'm new to BDSM and inquisitive about this world. But any question I ask does not imply that I want to partake in its nature. I just like to know about different experiences from others who've been there, and what's it like from their perspective. I do appreciate those who were forthcoming with a response.


mostly I was kidding you, there can be submissive that maybe like the idea of the person they fancy to dominate them without asking, but when you used the words "against your will" in a sexual scenario then the only response you can have from real people is "that's called rape", becuse it is. Than in general BDSMers like to talk and discuss, some also signing contracts so connect the odds.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 3:39:35 PM   
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No and honestly the idea of something like that happening for real sounds terrifying. I don't think being submissive means you would enjoy being kidnapped and held against your will anymore than having rape fantasies means you want to be actually raped.

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RE: Were you ever "forced" to be a submissive... - 10/17/2013 8:31:52 PM   
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Honestly op, this reads as though you fapped your way through reading the horrific experience of those women in Cleveland. And what else would you expect when you ask who has been brutally abducted and abused?

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