BSDM Plantations?

Join Our Community

Collarchat.com

Home Login Search

BSDM Plantations?

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Alternative Lifestyles in the News >> BSDM Plantations?

Page: [1] 2 next > >>

Login

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

BSDM Plantations? - 11/4/2013 7:53:38 PM

Posts: 480
Joined: 8/23/2013
Status: offline

After seeing 12 Years a Slave and reading this article I found hit me with difficulty and I don't find any of it BDSM fun at all. This may have been posted and thought you may all like to read about it...BDSM Plantations, but I would like to get your thoughts on it.

PS: Sorry for the wrong wording...it should be BDSM. :)

< Message edited by SweetAnise -- 11/4/2013 7:54:00 PM >

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 1:16:25 AM

Posts: 3693
Joined: 7/28/2012
Status: offline

I'm not sure I understand your point.
I sure don't see a question.

If you just want people's take on the article, here's mine:

I find the article not surprising in the least, I've long since been aware that stuff like that goes on, and I see no problem with it. The article itself isn't precisely well written, but then again, from that particular site I wasn't expecting anything else.

What I DO find disturbing is the knee jerk reaction people display in the comments to the article. The majority stance of the people commenting seems to be that people of certain skin colors shouldn't/don't have the right to choose what consensual sexual activities to engage in.
That to me smacks of close-minded bigotry more than the actual race play itself ever will.

\

_____________________________

I can be your whore
I am the dirt you created
I am your sinner
And your whore
But let me tell you something baby
You love me for everything you hate me for

(in reply to SweetAnise)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 1:55:05 AM

Posts: 28072
Joined: 5/2/2008
Status: offline

Unfortunately, there are people who view everything as based on race. When they took pains to say that Midori is of combined German and Asian heritage, that was ridiculous.

UllrsIshtar, there's a large contingent of Americans that think that anything other than het cispeople are wrong, and that any kink is a horrible thing. Don't expect open minds from them.

_____________________________

"You women....

The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

Quit fretting. We men love you."

(in reply to UllrsIshtar)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 4:34:12 AM

Posts: 480
Joined: 8/23/2013
Status: offline

I don't believe in No Limits (I know some do)...my understanding of this "plantation" is that you have the right to check off what you will and will not do but once on the "plantation" it is a no-limit environment. I find that disturbing. Not to say people do not have the right to explore, but I think there is a limit and should be a limit on what is consider exploration and exploitation. I don't think anyone would feel comfortable exploring the camps of the Holocaust. Just my thoughts.

(in reply to DarkSteven)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 5:36:40 AM

Posts: 3693
Joined: 7/28/2012
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: SweetAnise
.my understanding of this "plantation" is that you have the right to check off what you will and will not do but once on the "plantation" it is a no-limit environment. I find that disturbing.

The fact that every participant stipulates their personal limits upfront means that it's by definition not a "no-limits environment".

Instead, it's an environment with very rigid and clearly defined limits which are established upfront, which is about as opposite to a no-limit setup as one can get. The fact that anything within the boundaries of the established limits goes doesn't change that fact.

quote:

ORIGINAL: SweetAnise

Not to say people do not have the right to explore, but I think there is a limit and should be a limit on what is consider exploration and exploitation.

Oh, so you're saying that people have a right to explore, but that they only have that right if what they want to explore falls within the boundaries of what YOU consider acceptable. In other words, what they themselves consider acceptable for themselves is irrelevant, because the idea that a black person would want to enact chattel slavery to white people makes YOU uncomfortable, which obviously clearly means that it's exploitation instead of exploration.
Silly me to assume that people, regardless of skin color, should be able to enact whatever fantasies and sexual desires they choose, providing those behaviors do not directly harm other people. It's good to hear that you're looking out for those poor people of color who obviously can't be trusted with the freedom to make up their own mind about what they want to do with their lives. Good thing you're around to act as moral police and keep them in line by judging.

quote:

ORIGINAL: SweetAnise
I don't think anyone would feel comfortable exploring the camps of the Holocaust. Just my thoughts.

Actually, Holocaust and/or Nazi prisoner role-play is incredible popular in Europe. There is a whole subculture specifically build around the fetishization and sexualization of Nazi uniforms and Nazi interrogation and prisoner scenes. It's also done within the US, though not on as large a scale.

Maybe you should in the future try to educate yourself about the topic you're condemning BEFORE claiming that you can't imagine anybody feeling comfortable doing something you happen to not want to do.

Like I said before: the people who responded to the article -and you too apparently- reek more of close-minded bigotry to me than any of the people described in the actual article.

_____________________________

I can be your whore
I am the dirt you created
I am your sinner
And your whore
But let me tell you something baby
You love me for everything you hate me for

(in reply to SweetAnise)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 5:42:40 AM

Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline

I like the plantation thing, but I would need a plantation. Hey....I gotta lotta weeds in my yard and we can pretend they are cotton!!!!

Kill two birds with one stone. BTW, equal opportunity slaver here. I don't discriminate, all you all are slaves.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30

(in reply to UllrsIshtar)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 6:59:16 AM

Posts: 3693
Joined: 7/28/2012
Status: offline

For yard work I've found that incorporating pony play works well for a lot of tasks.

I've got plans for a human-pony-pulled lawn mower rig incorporating a reel push mower blade into a sulky, once we have a more private lot.

_____________________________

I can be your whore
I am the dirt you created
I am your sinner
And your whore
But let me tell you something baby
You love me for everything you hate me for

(in reply to mnottertail)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 7:20:42 AM

Posts: 3842
Joined: 3/21/2013
Status: offline

You want a dragline reel mower meant for use behind an ATV. A conventional push reel mower isn't designed to work with force behind it without a ton of engineering that's already done for you with the former. Look up Northern Tool and Tractor Supply for the best prices. Happy Lawn Care!

_____________________________

Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu

Goddess Wrangler

(in reply to UllrsIshtar)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 7:22:10 AM

Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline

why not an old horse drawn sicklemower MC? You guys are fucking with our traditions, goddammit, with your new fangled contraptions, work saving devices and whatnot, pretty soon we won't have slavery here in the US.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30

(in reply to MasterCaneman)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 7:25:17 AM

Posts: 25191
Joined: 11/25/2007
From: Apple County NY
Status: offline

Why not a flock of sheep, and people dressed as medieval shepherds?

_____________________________

Slave to laundry

Cynical and proud of it!

(in reply to mnottertail)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 7:35:46 AM

Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline

Too many clothes for the girls. Unacceptable on face value.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30

(in reply to DesFIP)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 7:53:06 AM

Posts: 3842
Joined: 3/21/2013
Status: offline

And sheep are one of my hard limits, too.

_____________________________

Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu

Goddess Wrangler

(in reply to mnottertail)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 7:57:38 AM

Posts: 3693
Joined: 7/28/2012
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterCaneman

You want a dragline reel mower meant for use behind an ATV. A conventional push reel mower isn't designed to work with force behind it without a ton of engineering that's already done for you with the former. Look up Northern Tool and Tractor Supply for the best prices. Happy Lawn Care!

Ooooh great advice, thanks for that.

*Takes notes*

_____________________________

I can be your whore
I am the dirt you created
I am your sinner
And your whore
But let me tell you something baby
You love me for everything you hate me for

(in reply to MasterCaneman)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 7:59:26 AM

Posts: 3693
Joined: 7/28/2012
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why not an old horse drawn sicklemower MC? You guys are fucking with our traditions, goddammit, with your new fangled contraptions, work saving devices and whatnot, pretty soon we won't have slavery here in the US.

Looked into that, the antiques that I could found that still function properly are waaaaaaaay too expensive.

My bondage habits are too expensive as it is... I just blew 5k on gear in Amsterdam and London last month.

Great time at customs.

_____________________________

I can be your whore
I am the dirt you created
I am your sinner
And your whore
But let me tell you something baby
You love me for everything you hate me for

(in reply to mnottertail)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 8:08:53 AM

Posts: 3842
Joined: 3/21/2013
Status: offline

If you want it to look antique, maybe try to "steampunk" it a bit? There's tons of articles on how to make stuff look old that isn't.

_____________________________

Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu

Goddess Wrangler

(in reply to UllrsIshtar)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 8:22:29 AM

Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why not an old horse drawn sicklemower MC? You guys are fucking with our traditions, goddammit, with your new fangled contraptions, work saving devices and whatnot, pretty soon we won't have slavery here in the US.

Looked into that, the antiques that I could found that still function properly are waaaaaaaay too expensive.

My bondage habits are too expensive as it is... I just blew 5k on gear in Amsterdam and London last month.

Great time at customs.

Don't know where you are now, but amish auctions and old old farm auctions you should be able to pick them up for near a song. Hell there are still thousands laying out in the woods here in Minnesota, and I would assume any other longstanding ag state. They are usually bought by weight junk dealers. There aint that much too them, it dont take nothing to get them running.

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30

(in reply to UllrsIshtar)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 8:27:04 AM

Posts: 3693
Joined: 7/28/2012
Status: offline

Alas, we're in the mountains, in Colorado. The only ones I've seen around here are at antique dealers sold to look rusted and pretty.

Once we get the property to use one, I'll do some shopping around and see if I can find one to transport here from Amish areas.

On our current postage stamp lot there ain't much point anyways, not even enough land to make a decent turn on, let enough exhaust and exercise a pony.

_____________________________

I can be your whore
I am the dirt you created
I am your sinner
And your whore
But let me tell you something baby
You love me for everything you hate me for

(in reply to mnottertail)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 8:54:44 AM

Posts: 3842
Joined: 3/21/2013
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

quote:

ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

why not an old horse drawn sicklemower MC? You guys are fucking with our traditions, goddammit, with your new fangled contraptions, work saving devices and whatnot, pretty soon we won't have slavery here in the US.

Looked into that, the antiques that I could found that still function properly are waaaaaaaay too expensive.

My bondage habits are too expensive as it is... I just blew 5k on gear in Amsterdam and London last month.

Great time at customs.

Don't know where you are now, but amish auctions and old old farm auctions you should be able to pick them up for near a song. Hell there are still thousands laying out in the woods here in Minnesota, and I would assume any other longstanding ag state. They are usually bought by weight junk dealers. There aint that much too them, it dont take nothing to get them running.

And the reason they're bought for scrap weight is because they're junk or no good for more than a rustic yard decoration. You're talking about decades-old wood that's been out in the elements, rusted and probably broken metal parts, and unless you know a competent blacksmith, you're stuck with trying to find parts that are more than a century old. Better to get something like this. Or Google Lehman's. They sell a lot of old-timey articles like scythes and bucket yokes, plantation-grade gear.

_____________________________

Age and treachery will always overcome youth and ambition.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. ~ Sun Tzu

Goddess Wrangler

(in reply to mnottertail)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 11:24:51 AM

Posts: 480
Joined: 8/23/2013
Status: offline

Since you have hijacked the thread UllrsIshtar- I guess there is no more to say about it . WRONG!

mnottertail I thought what you said was funny.

I believe there is a thin line between exploration and exploitation. I believe this is on the line of exploitation.

< Message edited by SweetAnise -- 11/5/2013 11:25:27 AM >

(in reply to MasterCaneman)

RE: BSDM Plantations? - 11/5/2013 11:33:46 AM

Posts: 60698
Joined: 11/3/2004
Status: offline

nah, them old horsedrawn didnt have any wood on them but the pittman arm so you didnt bust the whole sickle if you caught iron somehow, and that is a simple measurement saw a chunk of wood and drill the bolt holes, (use bolts in those, not rivets, pour oil on the blades and sickle (used car oil works good) and they rarely had broken parts they were pretty heavy made, them old steel wheel jobs. You will probably see dried grease all over the ground drive box, that old heavy grease is not hard to come by. The horses were retired when the old man got a tractor, and used it to haul them bitches in the woods.

might have to learn to rivet, but you can get them at farm stores, use a couple ball peens is good. It aint hard to fix them if you got some ability, dont need much, and they can run looser than hell, no problem there.

< Message edited by mnottertail -- 11/5/2013 11:34:48 AM >

_____________________________

Have they not divided the prey; to every man a damsel or two? Judges 5:30

(in reply to MasterCaneman)

Page: [1] 2 next > >>

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Alternative Lifestyles in the News >> BSDM Plantations?

Page: [1] 2 next > >>

Jump to:

New Messages	No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages	Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages	Locked w/o New Messages

Post New Thread

Reply to Message

Post New Poll

Submit Vote

Delete My Own Post

Delete My Own Thread

Rate Posts

Collarchat.com © 2024

Terms of Service

0.137