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ORIGINAL: irishbynature



I think in your own way, you finally GET it. Julia is neither Dem/Rep and rant on and on about it is waste of her valuable, lovely, blond-tall-gorgeous California body and brain. 2 cents on "leftovers"...they are better heated and reheated anyway.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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ORIGINAL: irishbynature
I think in your own way, you finally GET it. Julia is neither Dem/Rep and rant on and on about it is waste of her valuable, lovely, blond-tall-gorgeous California body and brain. 2 cents on "leftovers"...they are better heated and reheated anyway.

Irish, it isn't worth your time either. Believe me, I decided days ago certain things were not worth my time.. it doesn't matter if Im right or wrong, what matters is to keep the head held up high and to not sink to the behavior that is unbecoming of me... Im not here to argue this sort of thing, and my Dom's opinion and your opinion are the only two I really have any emotional investment in... hugs sweetie.

OK Julia...but darn...I want to light a match with some lighter fluid and you spoiled my fun.....AND you know I'd do it, since I've seen  this banter. You've seen my Irish temper so I will sit back and let this one ride.
Hugs back.
IBN

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ORIGINAL: Pulpsmack

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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I quietly picked up the 12 guage. There is no other sound in the world like the racking of a shotgun. That sound stopped the foot that was now coming through the window cold. I only needed to say "if I miss you with the first barrel I'm pretty sure I'll get you with the second" for that foot to fly out of the window into the night.

I hate to call BS on an otherwise well written post but something doesn't add up here... your choice of words, or your story.

Everybody knows that distinctive "click clack" of a 12 gauge being pumped as you have alluded to in your story. (advocates of shotguns for self defense always add that line in their advice: no matter what language you speak, every intruder knows the racking of a 12 gauge pump).

Problem here is you tell the intruder that if you don't get him with the first barrel you'll get him with the next. Sorry, that's BS. There are 2 shot/2 barrel  side-by-side shotguns, there are 2 shot/2 barrel over/under shotguns, but there are no 2 barrel pump shotguns. Care to explain this?

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ORIGINAL: Pulpsmack

If this isn't the case, you certainly come off that way.

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ORIGINAL: Pulpsmack

this 4th of july some asshat kids (a little more than a dozen) went on a wilding spree hurling rocks and beer bottles at people before they closed in with bats and beat the hell out of a few. In this case you have to be lucky enough to beat the hell out of at least one (minimum) before the pack brave cowards freak out and run. This assumes you aren't rushed and overtaken by 3 or more of them. With the firearms scenario 2 rounds, hit or miss is going to detonate the "shit the pants factor" with at least half of them then you need only worry about the nearest, the biggest and the loudest in that order. In the armed robbery that I thwarted the shithead was 15-20' away with weapon brandished. It was on a river platform with no escape save a walkway that would require advancement towards him then 90 degree turn 30 yards (where his partner was lying in wait). This was a case in which you likely would be sincerely fucked without a gun if the robber didn't close the distance. My weapon not only scared the piece of shit off, but his partner was nowhere to be found when the shots rang out.

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: Pulpsmack

this 4th of july some asshat kids (a little more than a dozen) went on a wilding spree hurling rocks and beer bottles at people before they closed in with bats and beat the hell out of a few. In this case you have to be lucky enough to beat the hell out of at least one (minimum) before the pack brave cowards freak out and run. This assumes you aren't rushed and overtaken by 3 or more of them. With the firearms scenario 2 rounds, hit or miss is going to detonate the "shit the pants factor" with at least half of them then you need only worry about the nearest, the biggest and the loudest in that order. In the armed robbery that I thwarted the shithead was 15-20' away with weapon brandished. It was on a river platform with no escape save a walkway that would require advancement towards him then 90 degree turn 30 yards (where his partner was lying in wait). This was a case in which you likely would be sincerely fucked without a gun if the robber didn't close the distance. My weapon not only scared the piece of shit off, but his partner was nowhere to be found when the shots rang out.

From a legal standpoint, a person who states their intention to inflict grievous bodily harm on another person prior to actually doing so adds the charge of "premeditation" to any criminal charges filed against them.

In other words, manslaughter gets bumped to murder, etc.

I hope the District Attorney in your case doesnt subscribe to these boards.

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: CrappyDom

Alumbrado,

My point was that certain people want to make adreneline crippling to others but claim their secret training recipe makes them still be effective with whatever choice of weapon makes them feel all warm and fuzzy.

If you get hit over the head and are having trouble responding, you are going to have trouble responding, it doesn't matter if you are trying to shoot them or kick them in the groin.

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

From a legal standpoint, a person who states their intention to inflict grievous bodily harm on another person prior to actually doing so adds the charge of "premeditation" to any criminal charges filed against them.

In other words, manslaughter gets bumped to murder, etc.

I hope the District Attorney in your case doesnt subscribe to these boards.

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

From a legal standpoint, a person who states their intention to inflict grievous bodily harm on another person prior to actually doing so adds the charge of "premeditation" to any criminal charges filed against them.

In other words, manslaughter gets bumped to murder, etc.

I hope the District Attorney in your case doesnt subscribe to these boards.

Just me, could be wrong, etc.

Sinergy

You are right that premeditation when proven, raises the stakes when a death occurs...you are pretty much way off base with the rest.
It cannot change a reckless or negligent charge of manslaughter to a murder...(how do you prove that someone pre-planned to be unaware?)... It can elevate a murder charge to a capital murder charge.

And 'Stop or I'll shoot' or 'Back off, I just took a self defense course from a expert' is not neccessarily premeditation.
In fact, it can be used to show that one felt threatened...a requirement for claiming self defense.
(Not that it is always a good idea to announce one's intentions, I'm just addressing the 'premeditation' comments).

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I do not believe in vigilantism, or in people that think it is ok for them to enforce justice in civil society by pulling out their concealed weapon and firing randomly at people...