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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 6:16:31 AM

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As a general rule, We do not keep firearms in the home. We have two small children and I just do not feel safe with guns and kids. However, I do own three guns (two shots and a rifle). Said guns are locked up in storage with My Father's.

Strangely enough, the great state of Alabama just passed a law that specifically says, IF I feel threatened or what is Mine is threatened, I can defend with the law on My side (and in that case, it will be My word against a dead man's).

At the current, My Co-Dom Husband is a trained Huntsman and Rifleman.

So, in answering your question, yes We can defend what is Ours. Hopefully, that day will never come to make that statement a reality.

Rule of thunb here is; It is better to give evidence in the Coroner's Court than have the bastard sue, you which they will even when they are convicted.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 6:21:29 AM

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And... as My father, the ex-police officer, and his friends used to say...

"always drag 'em at least halfway through the door"

*chuckles*

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 6:54:01 AM

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The only threats I've had to defend myself from, have been from the government and civil law. A thief can only take what they can carry. The goverment can take it all. Had I any choice in my battles over the years, I think I would have chosen the intruder over the government.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 8:46:04 AM

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There are guns in our household as well as a number of different "self defense" weapons that are accessable. We also have the 120 pound pony/dog that seems to gain super strength powers whenever there is any sign of company. That, coupled with Brat's law enforcement and military experience makes our cave pretty safe. I would also venture to say the alleged intruder or perpetrator would be getting off easy with a bullet, knowing how twisted my mind is.

Which brings the question, if YOU are presented with an intruder with ill intent in your home, would you waste the bullet, or take care of things on a more personal level?
(Brat says "you sound like a vigilante!")

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 9:14:26 AM

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My question is do you, as a Master, feel it's important to be conversant with weaponry whether it be handguns, swords, knives what have you.. in order to protect that which belongs to you? Do you feel it's important that your partner be equally well versed or at least know enough about weaponry to protect themselves?

If not, what steps do you take to ensure that your property (not necessarily a slave, but perhaps just your home) is safe and secure from intruders? Burglar alarms? Dogs? Bat? Martial arts training?

My owner has guns and has always enjoyed it as a hobby (and also a means of self-protection) as well as knives and swords.

I have an alarm system, knives (tho I use them primarily for cooking). I don't know how to use a gun, though he has slowly started showing me how to use one, primarily through using those plastic replica's. At some point I want to learn how to use a gun but they still scare me to some extent so it'll be a long learning curve.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 11:38:34 AM

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So, all I can say is that when I read the OP question about protecting what's mine, the question promptly popped into my head: "From what?" Paranoia?

When I wrote the OP I was thinking of robbers, looters and rapists. Having survived all three of these, I would have to admit to being a bit .. hmm.. uncomfortable.. when Himself goes on a business trip and I'm left home alone.

I've also been robbed at gun point when I was a teenager while working as a hostess at a restaurant, had one aunt who was murdered and my mom's best friend who was also murdered, so I may be a bit paranoid, but I think it's justified considering my personal history with having a criminal element around me.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 11:47:30 AM

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So, all I can say is that when I read the OP question about protecting what's mine, the question promptly popped into my head: "From what?" Paranoia?

When I wrote the OP I was thinking of robbers, looters and rapists. Having survived all three of these, I would have to admit to being a bit .. hmm.. uncomfortable.. when Himself goes on a business trip and I'm left home alone.

I've also been robbed at gun point when I was a teenager while working as a hostess at a restaurant, had one aunt who was murdered and my mom's best friend who was also murdered, so I may be a bit paranoid, but I think it's justified considering my personal history with having a criminal element around me.

Celeste

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 6:38:57 PM

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I myself own a collection of old Japanese swords, and kow how to use them though I doubt I will ever have to use them for defense. They have served their time and deserve their rest.

We own a number of guns which my wife also knows how to use. Any weapon that comes in the door she will know how to operate. Period. I don't believe it's paranoid to have these useful tools. I look at it as I was taught. I would rather have them and not need them, than need them and not have them.

I no longer hunt like I used to but then again the chance doesn't come up as often now. But hunting is a skill that will be passed on to my son. It's something that could save his life one day. Always be prepared.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/4/2006 6:54:29 PM

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Personally, I dont need weaponry to protect what is mine. Martial arts has given me the ability to do so without. I can use a large number of weapons, i trained for it, but when I ahve been pushed into confrontations (growing up in the ghetto of NYC) my arts have saved me many times. I have also had to protect my boys before, and would never hesitate to do so again. They are not alwasy capable, and they arent nearly as calm under bad situations... lucky fr them not everynoe believes its the mans job to protect his lady.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/5/2006 8:40:20 AM

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We have guns for recreation and protection. Though guns are relatively new to me, my partner is a very very good shot. If we had a burglar, I think she would be nice enough to allow me the first shot, which would hit them somewhere, before she put them on the ground.

Do not forget other possible weapons that can be found in a toy bag. Before she moved here, there was trouble in her apartment complex with a group of 18-22 year old guys with a super loud stereo. When I was visiting there, they cranked it up to a wall shaking volume after midnight. I walked to their door and found a bunch of drunks. When I asked them to turn it down, they laughed and turned it down just long enough for me to get back in bed. My second trip to ask them to turn it down included a 6' black snake. I noticed the door wasnt shut very well, so I kicked the door open and rolled the snake out in front of me. The sight of the black snake must have been quite an attention getter.... she never had a problem with them again. Unconventional weapons work too.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/7/2006 4:33:47 PM

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Geesch. I dont care for firearms at all. I once thought I wanted to be a tough guy and learn how to shoot, until I had a pistol in my hands and went weak in the knees. I dont like seeing guns, touching guns, or knowing theyre around. I dont even like to see one on a cop. In fact, I dont like any kind of weapons. I abhor violence of any kind, and even just *seeing* a weapon of some sort makes me have horrid illusions of injury to the human body.

As far as protection....I really dont know what the hell I would do if someone broke in. Id probably try my begging skills on them, which basically means Im gonna die. Do stilettos count as weapons??

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/7/2006 5:06:58 PM

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"Those who hear the thunder in the distance laugh at those who fear the lightning" I can't remember who wrote those words but they seem appropriate.

Oh I'm not laughing at all of it... just some of it. I used to be the lightning people wanted to protect themselves from. But when I see people saying that they own swords for protection, I find it hard not to fall over laughing. You want to protect your home, buy a hand gun, take a gun safety course and then spend some regular time each month on a firing range.

As for dominants protecting their submissives, I think considering things like a good health insurance policy, regular check ups, making sure you know the risks of the kinds of play you do and how to manage them are far more important forms of protection than swords, knives, guns and the martial arts. In the US more people die each year from accidental deaths at home or from disease or from drunk drivers than from all the violent crimes combined. Which means health care for the submissive ought to be a very real concern.

But hey, swords are flashy and romantic and much more fun to brag... er... talk about than health care.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/7/2006 5:27:21 PM

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Guns and blades are designed to put holes in things...period. They do not possess any extra powers of protection.

Most martial arts instruction is designed to put money in the pockets of instructors...(a gentleman by the name of Charles Nelson made an even better living for decades from teaching New York city black belts who had been raped and mugged how to really protect themselves).

Weapons can be useful, provided the wielder also possesses an uncommon amount of common sense.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/7/2006 6:16:25 PM

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In the world that we live in I think it would be foolish not to have the means to protect yourself and yours if it ever came to that. I am a former fugitive recovery agent and I have seen first hand the types of people that are out there. I feel confident that my slave would be able to protect herself if she needed too, atleast as much as any average person could if not better. Knives, really big knives and guns are a part of my home, there are no children here so I don't have to child proof anything, so getting to them is not restricted, if you know where they are.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/7/2006 6:25:01 PM

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I don't like violence either, specially if it's directed to me. That is why I think everyone needs to know as much as they can about looking out for themselves.......and i know that good health care is vital and very important.....so is good life insurance......and i know the national stats about accidents and drunk drivers and such....but I lived in and still live near enough to one of the most violent cities in America to know that the government can't do it all..... so, we have to look out for ourselves in everyway.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/7/2006 6:32:00 PM

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That's one of the perks about living where I do....It don't matter where they fall, as long as they were on your property when you shot em.

Darkside

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/8/2006 3:53:45 AM

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Guns and blades are designed to put holes in things...period. They do not possess any extra powers of protection.

Most martial arts instruction is designed to put money in the pockets of instructors...(a gentleman by the name of Charles Nelson made an even better living for decades from teaching New York city black belts who had been raped and mugged how to really protect themselves).

Weapons can be useful, provided the wielder also possesses an uncommon amount of common sense.

I concur with this, especially the martial Arts Comments, which is why my late sensai and I never believed in turning martial Arts into a sport. It is combat training the use of which can be lethal if necessary but can be used to disarm and thus perhaps teach the stupidity of attacking someone. Like wise with weapons. Uncommon common sence I can agree with, but would prefer it to be combined with training in the correct and safe use of such weapons... Have a memory of an elderpy woman in a villiage in 'nam using a disgarded semi automatic .45 cal US service pistol as a hammer to hammer a cross into the ground to mark the grave of her son killed by charlie and holding the weapon by the barrel. The gun discharged sending her to join her son.. I buried her next to her son.....

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/8/2006 4:09:58 PM

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So all told I'm pretty capable of defending myself or my property, but... from what?

My sentiments exactly.... ...Perhaps I'll consider getting a gun if I start seeing bears in my back yard...

I'm sure there's a better way to deal with da bears. I know how to use and maintain guns, and am a very good shot, but for some reason, feel no need to own a firearm. Could it be because here in wildass New Mexico I am being protected by the guns of those around me? Hell NO!! If anything, I am a bit less safe, thanks to them. I'm from Detroit, and have somehow managed to survive many job assignments on the Mexican border without a gun. Maybe I should hire myself out?

So, all I can say is that when I read the OP question about protecting what's mine, the question promptly popped into my head: "From what?" Paranoia?

Bob

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One who suffers from paranoia is one who is seized upon by an unreasonable fear. Those who are more cautious (even sensible) have been regarded as paranoid by those who do not take such precautions and want to label those so they can feel ok about the way in which they comport themselves.

People have jabbed my ribs for years because my interests have been "Charlie Bronson-esque" with respect to combat rifles and pistols. Then Katrina struck. I saw the gun stores cleaned out within an afternoon, and those who laughed were among those knocking on my door looking for a handout after hearing about lootings, shootings and violent erruptions in gas lines and Wal Mart parking lots. When the "displaced citizens" AKA "self-entitled, thugged out scum" came into my nearby city ambling the neighborhood with contemptuous air, I happened to have returned from the range, giving a friend a crash-course with the rifle. I stepped out of his car and slung my AR-15 on my back and these ididots cleared out of my neighborhood in about 20 seconds.For those who ever wondered why a citizen might "need" an assault weapon, just remember those idiots sniping at police and rescuers last year.

We are in the cycle of 20 years of productive hurricane seasons and a continual target for terrorism. It is unlikely we will see an armed foreign invasion or zombies rise from the grave, but one natural or terrorist act that forces enough people out their homes and interrupts power/water and things can go south overnight with respect to what is yours. I happen to be one of the fortunate few that experienced this firsthand and made it through relatively unscathed.

That you are afraid of a few yahoos with guns shows what a sheltered life you have the opportunity of living these days. The liklihood of a legally armed citizen injuring another with a firearm is about as much a threat as being struck by lightning. I would take my odds any day with a few good old boys who like to tear it up weekends in the deserts of AZ over the angry, desperate gangsta element that overruns the urban graveyard that is Detroit. I have had the occasion to use my firearm against a POS who made the mistake of trying to rob me at gunpoint a few years ago. I have shot indoors and outdoors with many groups of people, and I have never had any threat of life or limb occur from the pursuit of such recreation. If there is any unsafe conduct, I am sure to be all over the person and worst case scenario I would leave immediately. That is not a luxury any of us have driving home at night.

Our right to bear arms is a right for everyone (eho legally qualifies). That we have the right does not mean that guns are for everybody, and that is fine. If you don't like, don't carry, but watch what you say about those who do... your life may very well depend on one of these people some day when your lack of preparation has left you impotent and vulnerable to a horrible crime.

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/8/2006 7:17:20 PM

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well for starters i grew up on the wrong side of the tracks=lol so street fighting still has a certain rush even today....i also speent many years in martial arts and also spent many years in the service.....as far as weapons well anything i chose to use as a toy i try and perfect so any toy is a weapon initself=lol ie,, flogger to knives,hands to canes..i have taught my pet certain things she can do easy to incapacitate an attacker if it ever came about....

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RE: Weaponry, protecting what's yours - 7/8/2006 7:34:49 PM

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Well no protector here..so hence I am left with a scream that could bend steel..does this count?..oh yeah and a 9mm if necessary...Tempting

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