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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/15/2013 1:49:31 PM   
Kana


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Is Nazi roleplay acceptable to you? Why or why not?

Yep.
I think it's fine.
A-As long as it's being done behind closed doors between consenting adults, I don't care WTF is done.
B-It's a very common theme in fet. Realize this, it's only people role-playing a fantasy, a fantasy that of course no one would ever even contemplate undergoing in real life.The same way people have prison fantasies, or rape fantasies or Ariel Castro abducted and kidnapped and kept fantasies, some have nazi fetishes.
No big deal.
It's role play. Don't make more of it than it is.
Hell, it could probably even be argued that such interactions are a healthy way of dealing with fears, phobias, whatever.



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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/15/2013 3:45:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		One of the hottest demos/presentations that I ever attended for interrogation/role play was a scenario where a spy had been caught behind enemy lines and the SS was trying to get information out of him via various forms of torture. All kinds of period type costumes and electrical play devices. There was a specific disclaimer on the program to let people know in advance what type of role play it was going to be and what era the scene had been set. It was probably one of the most intense demos that I've ever attended and the audience was blown away.

Would I have done it, Myself? Probably not because it doesn't trip My trigger.

Does it bother Me that other people do it? No. I learned a long time ago that I have kinks that squick other people. That doesn't stop them from associating with Me or remove Me from their friend feed because they might see comments about needle play, cutting, or whatever else it is that I get up to that isn't their personal gig. I figure I can extend that to whatever kinks they might have.


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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/15/2013 7:50:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		I take the view that what is really alarming about the Nazis is the demonstration that a culture well recognized as being modern and technically advanced can be quickly and completely transformed into a pointedly senseless culture of death bent on attacking everyone, north, south, east, west and internally, because a few idiot-savants happen to be peculiarly capable of stoking superstitious paranoia to achieve a drug-like effect on crowds... On the other hand, that is something I want everyone to know enough to look out for in other times and places.

I think too, there might be some Nazi Role Play in this MOVIE

And please enjoy this toy universe from 1984.

Of course, to do that, you will need one of these.

I could tell you where to get one... but then I'd have to kill you...



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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/16/2013 6:13:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've been following this thread with rapt fascination. I've never done a "Nazi" scene but I've seen folks into it at the club I worked in. I'm on the fence on this one. I never took offense because I saw it as no more than costume play, because to be honest, the ones dressed up were doing little more than "S&M" (stand and model) their outfits. On the other hand, my uncle Don was a WWII vet who witnessed the camps first-hand. I'd have to ask my cousin because she has all his records, but he was among the troops that liberated one of the smaller camps, and he had to help manage the bodies.

To the day he died, he couldn't look at or hear about what went on there without becoming physically ill. The nineteen year old he was at the time saw things that nothing could erase, so there's that aspect of it. He brought home a real SS uniform and a flag from one of those places. My mom (who was a teenager at the time) wore it one year for Halloween and caught holy hell for it. Until he stopped going deer hunting, he used that uniform as a target for his shotgun every year until it fell apart. Somewhere in his things, there's a picture of him posing next to it hanging from a berm wall, all chewed to pieces. The flag was kept at my grandma's until one of her tenants found it and cut it up to make dresses sometime in the sixties. He burnt what was left at hunting camp with some of his buddies from the VFW post sometime afterward.

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/20/2013 4:54:58 PM   
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Status: offline 		To put it simply, to each their own. I have no desire to participate but I could care less what other consenting adults choose to do. I realize people may have personal reasons for hating it and that is indeed their right and their business. Why disrespect anyone else for something so trivial? (To be clear... cause I know this would get negative replies, I am saying the choice in RP is trivial) Doors make great exits and if you aren't comfortable find one and utilize it. I personally have issues looking down on anyone for their choice in kink. Glass houses and stones and things like that...

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/22/2013 6:26:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		I corresponded for a while with a sub who wanted to play a victim of Nazi torturers, and my only reservation was that even for the chance to get Fascistic on her ass, no way was I getting a military haircut. (We settled on my being an evil concentration camp scientist.) But I wouldn't play such a scene in public, because I'd be too aware of how many people would have problems with it.

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/22/2013 2:16:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Speaking only for myself....

I wouldn't participate in Nazi r/p, and I wouldn't enjoy watching it, because I couldn't do so without being very conscious of what the Nazis did.

I wouldn't assume that people who enjoyed Nazi role play were getting their kicks out of celebrating the brutal, hateful an d nasty things that the Nazis did... I'd just feel that they were being a little thoughtless. If l got the impression that they were actually getting off on the idea of genocide and murder, then l would be wondering whether they were the sort of people I would choose to hang out with...

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/22/2013 2:20:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Speaking only for myself....

I wouldn't participate in Nazi r/p, and I wouldn't enjoy watching it, because I couldn't do so without being very conscious of what the Nazis did.

I wouldn't assume that people who enjoyed Nazi role play were getting their kicks out of celebrating the brutal, hateful an d nasty things that the Nazis did... I'd just feel that they were being a little thoughtless. If l got the impression that they were actually getting off on the idea of genocide and murder, then l would be wondering whether they were the sort of people I would choose to hang out with...


So well said. And you, as usual are able to do it is so fewer words than me.

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/23/2013 12:12:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Greetings,
I wouldn't even begin to imagine what Nazi role play would include, because again, when I learned about some things in History, I tried to remember enough not to let that ever happen again, and no more than I needed to, to remember that.

That being said, I remember, when I was a young teenager, there was an afterschool movie on TV entitled "THE WAVE" and it was about how a high school teacher taught his students how easily even they, could assume a Nazi-type mindset, simply by seeking to be included and the feeling of power and self-importance and the importance of being part of a powerful group... how easily they got sucked in, and how easily, other kids were isolated and left out (aka The Jews).... Those left out felt unworthy and lots of other things.

At the end of the movie, the kids cried when the teacher revealed to them what he had done and showed them a movie clip of Hitler and the Nazi's soluting Him and cheering for Him... the teacher had even got the kids to do the salute (The Wave).... the kids were shocked, and those of us who watched, were a little shocked at our own reaction, as well. They cried tears of pain for themselves, and so did I.

I will never forget the way that movie made me feel, and moreso, the awareness it created for myself, and for everyone else, as well.

Sincerely,
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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/23/2013 4:25:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Alright people, please challenge the post, not the poster, and do not quote these last two posts.

Edited because the two posts were deleted upon further review.

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/23/2013 4:43:05 PM   
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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/23/2013 4:59:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Unlocked. As a reminder, you can say things like "I'm offended," "I find it offensive," or "I think it's stupid" but making sweeping negative generalizations insults the kinks of others and as such is not allowed per Collarme.com Forum Guidelines:

This isn't a place to insult the kinks, preferences, lifestyles, etc. of others. If you don't like what another person enjoys, rest assured that there are plenty of others out there that probably don't like your activities either.

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/24/2013 1:53:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: orgasmdenial12
Is Nazi roleplay acceptable to you? Why or why not?


I find absolutely nothing wrong with Nazi Role Play. Role Play in BDSM is full of taboo acts and very wrongs act in real life. Role Playing does not mean we condone those acts in real life. No one would condone the actual torture of a person. No one would condone the rape of another person. No one would condone the boss having sex with his secretary. But these are all very common sexual role play scenes. Just because you role play about a particular scene, in no way means that you condone those acts outside of role playing.

Nazi Role play is merely another form prisoner interrogation type role playing. This is a fairly common Role play fetish in the BDSM community. Rubex, a famous BDSM artist, did a lot of sketches of Nazi Nurse – male prisoner interrogation. Some of Rubex’s work can be seen here http://www.fetishartists.com/?s=rubex

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/24/2013 3:56:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Errm... when you say the last two posts... given that one of them quotes a post of mine, am I to assume there's some problem with it?

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/24/2013 8:55:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for asking - the two problematic posts have since been deleted, so that part is no longer relevant.

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/25/2013 12:11:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Phew!

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/26/2013 12:01:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can handle the thought of Nazi role play, or Antebellum South slave role play, but, the whole nun thing gives me religious creepies... so, some things are just out of the question.

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/26/2013 3:33:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium

I can handle the thought of Nazi role play, or Antebellum South slave role play, but, the whole nun thing gives me religious creepies... so,



And that's the whole point. We all have our line in the sand. There are kinks that I have no interest in, but if it floats other's boats, yippee for them. Then there are the ones I have no interest in, and you couldn't pay me to watch occur, but between consenting adults, no problem.c.

But there are things, and Chi, I'm not mentioning anyone's personal kink so there is no TOS violation, that are not really "kinks" or "fetishes" but signs of mental illness. People don't like to admit it, because it is so much easier to continue the chant of, "your kinks isn't my kink but that's ok." People who are afraid to speak up for fear of being ostracized, flamed, blocked, etc. Obviously, I've never been among them, and there are quite a few others who aren't afraid to say so either.

Do I think Nazi role play is "wrong?" I find it offensive and I would say so to anyone who mentioned it to me. If I went to a club, I would simply walk away from any activity that was not to my personal tastes.

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/26/2013 9:07:35 PM   
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I corresponded for a while with a sub who wanted to play a victim of Nazi torturers, and my only reservation was that even for the chance to get Fascistic on her ass, no way was I getting a military haircut.


Ahhh, but was she willing to let you shave her head.
You know, for historical accuracy and all

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RE: Nazi Role Play - 12/27/2013 2:10:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Ilyrium

I can handle the thought of Nazi role play, or Antebellum South slave role play, but, the whole nun thing gives me religious creepies... so, some things are just out of the question.


See! See! That just goes to show, it takes different strokes.... I fucking love the Randy Nun thing

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