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RE: Truth and lies - 1/5/2014 2:11:42 PM   
SubSlutSlave11


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ORIGINAL: MariaB

DesFip, where does the op keep insisting it wasn't her responsibility? and what do you mean by saying, 'when you started having sex'? herpes type 1 can be passed on by kissing, you don't need to have sex to catch it and even if they were both tested, the chances of a false negative result is pretty high.

This was a year long long relationship, not some guy she kissed under the mistletoe at a party. I don't believe you read this thread other than the initial post.

Your sympathy astounds me


Huge hugs to Ms. MariaB. Thank you! You rock and roll... :)

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RE: Truth and lies - 1/6/2014 7:07:50 AM   
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This post was, in short, a little public humiliation, towards myself. As any can see, I never (and would never) mention anyone by name... if he sees or reads, he will know. and thank ALL for the advice, I appreciate it. And even the ones that may not have understood the post, I still appreciate the time You took to post. I am a firm believer in not making the same mistake twice, and this one, I know I won't.

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RE: Truth and lies - 1/11/2014 11:30:00 PM   
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I'm curious how this turns out. Did you talk to your doctor? Have you been tested? Are we really talking about HSV I?


I ask the last one because depending on the study somewhere between 50% and 98% of the population has HSV I. It is generally associated with cold sores around the mouth but can be spread to genitals via oral sex. The guy might have been flippant because having something that most people have makes it seem a little less serious.


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RE: Truth and lies - 1/17/2014 4:46:54 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Fullfilher

I'm curious how this turns out. Did you talk to your doctor? Have you been tested? Are we really talking about HSV I?


I ask the last one because depending on the study somewhere between 50% and 98% of the population has HSV I. It is generally associated with cold sores around the mouth but can be spread to genitals via oral sex. The guy might have been flippant because having something that most people have makes it seem a little less serious.




Umm, Yes, herpes is what I am talking about...and Yes, that's what I am really talking about. Here's the deal, again; I didn't have it...still don't. Again, upset bc of flippant attitude. Thanks for post.

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RE: Truth and lies - 1/17/2014 4:57:16 AM   
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RE: Truth and lies - 1/17/2014 5:03:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WPHslave


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ORIGINAL: SweetAnise

littlewonder simply saying to the OP, "I am sorry for making that assumption." Would be far better than having to STAND YOUR GROUND making a point about how you feel when people make assumptions about you.


Thank You, SweetAnise. That's perfectly said, I super appreciate you understand what (or why) I'm trying to say. I don't judge, and I don't care to judge. I guess one could say I publicly humiliated myself; but that type of "incident" will not happen again. Lesson learned, ha. I have researched it more, and eh, it is what is. But I would have rather known, upfront and made decision myself.
Hope all is well for you, SweetAnise. Again, thanks. :)


Um, what? WPHslave, you didn't post previously. This is apparently your first post. What gives? Sock puppet?

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RE: Truth and lies - 1/17/2014 10:02:37 AM   
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Yup, Yuuuuuuuuuuuuup!! ALL CLEAR!!!!! I am still STD/herpes free. Well, only thing left is the cancer, lol. ;)

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RE: Truth and lies - 1/27/2014 10:56:20 AM   
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Congrats SubSlut!

Ill add some other info about Herpes seeing as I went though the same thing a few years ago. A partner let me know they tested positive for type 2 and I spent some time worried and getting tested.

Type 1 (oral Cold Sores) is not tested for unless specifically requested. It can also be passed to the genitals via oral sex and is not generally considered an STD.

Type 2 (genital herpes) is not covered in the standard STD panel.
It was not considered an STD until the late 70's early 80's when a drug company ran adds for a treatment.
Because of it's relatively benign nature it has been suggested that a positive result to a test does more psychological damage than the actual virus does to the body.
Type 2 herpes can be oral, meaning you can get type 2 genital herpes in your mouth from oral sex. It presents as a sore throat in most cases and goes diagnosed.

Male Condoms are not as effective in stopping the spread, however female condoms have shown a much higher success rate of stopping the transmission.

In both type1 and type2 the bodies immune system tends to control the virus within the first 7 years stopping the outward symptoms from appearing.


Hope this helps someone.

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RE: Truth and lies - 1/28/2014 5:55:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arldaddy

Congrats SubSlut!

Ill add some other info about Herpes seeing as I went though the same thing a few years ago. A partner let me know they tested positive for type 2 and I spent some time worried and getting tested.

Type 1 (oral Cold Sores) is not tested for unless specifically requested. It can also be passed to the genitals via oral sex and is not generally considered an STD.

Type 2 (genital herpes) is not covered in the standard STD panel.
It was not considered an STD until the late 70's early 80's when a drug company ran adds for a treatment.
Because of it's relatively benign nature it has been suggested that a positive result to a test does more psychological damage than the actual virus does to the body.
Type 2 herpes can be oral, meaning you can get type 2 genital herpes in your mouth from oral sex. It presents as a sore throat in most cases and goes diagnosed.

Male Condoms are not as effective in stopping the spread, however female condoms have shown a much higher success rate of stopping the transmission.

In both type1 and type2 the bodies immune system tends to control the virus within the first 7 years stopping the outward symptoms from appearing.


Hope this helps someone.

Thank You Arldaddy!! I super appreciate the info, and the time You took to post. You rock, and hope You're having a lovely day. :)

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RE: Truth and lies - 3/29/2014 8:30:53 AM   
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I've read the thread and see you are herpes free, thank goodness.

I am disturbed about the threat to your well being by a man you felt you could trust. He mentioned this after the fact. If he knows you will stay, forgive and keep him, this behavior will continue especially since he has something to gain... Your attention.
Please feel the rage and energy, honor it and move on.

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ORIGINAL: SubSlutSlave11

Hello and Thank You, FelineRanger.... I messed up. I believed what he said, bc of he seemed like a stand-up guy, and that was where I went wrong. he said he was 'clear' but then tells me afterwards that he may have herpes!! WTF?!? (ha) I told him that piece of information would have been great to know up front. he is so blasé about it, that is what gets me. And he was really lucking in being able to fuck me, that's for sure (not my type). But he seemed one way, and turned out the other. It's all on me, I am just stuck in feeling angry.



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RE: Truth and lies - 3/29/2014 9:12:59 AM   
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To the OP, all the very best and I hope everything turns out alright for you. It's awful that somebody you trusted lied to you!

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RE: Truth and lies - 3/29/2014 9:05:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SubSlutSlave11

Ummm, I knew the guy for a year... We DID USE condoms, but of course, guys 'can't feel..blah' (as I said, knew him for a year). I have ZERO problem getting dates. I am bored of 'vanilla' and NEED to do what I need to do.

So, I don't mind you giving opinions, but don't assume anything... people may do the same about you. :)
quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

If you didn't use a condom, start using them. It's stupid not to and I would think in this day and age any person above the age of 12 would know this.

Maybe next time before having sex, take awhile to get to know the person for awhile. What's the rush, especially if you have had poor man judgment in the past?





people judge me every single minute of every single day. Guess what? So what? Who cares?Really.


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RE: Truth and lies - 3/30/2014 5:38:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Arldaddy

Congrats SubSlut!

Ill add some other info about Herpes seeing as I went though the same thing a few years ago. A partner let me know they tested positive for type 2 and I spent some time worried and getting tested.

Type 1 (oral Cold Sores) is not tested for unless specifically requested. It can also be passed to the genitals via oral sex and is not generally considered an STD.

Type 2 (genital herpes) is not covered in the standard STD panel.
It was not considered an STD until the late 70's early 80's when a drug company ran adds for a treatment.
Because of it's relatively benign nature it has been suggested that a positive result to a test does more psychological damage than the actual virus does to the body.
Type 2 herpes can be oral, meaning you can get type 2 genital herpes in your mouth from oral sex. It presents as a sore throat in most cases and goes diagnosed.

Male Condoms are not as effective in stopping the spread, however female condoms have shown a much higher success rate of stopping the transmission.

In both type1 and type2 the bodies immune system tends to control the virus within the first 7 years stopping the outward symptoms from appearing.


Hope this helps someone.

Two points-
1) the herpes stigma was created/invented by a drug company wanting to create a market for their drug..
2) a person can be tested for herpes and get a false negative, meaning they are told they don't have it when they do..

"So having developed aciclovir, the drug company required a return on investment. But its marketing men had a problem: none of the conditions the drug might be used for required treatment except in extreme cases.

The herpes stigma is born

The answer was to pitch the drug at genital herpes patients. The trick would be to persuade them that the condition was serious enough to warrant expensive drug treatment. A disease-awareness campaign was organised to alert doctors and patients to the benefits of the new drug. The case was made by ‘marketing’ genital herpes so that it acquired the status of an important disease.

The strategy was spectacularly successful. Articles began to appear in newspapers. In the US, herpes became the cover story for Time magazine twice. Anything negative about the condition was highlighted in order to raise public concern. The word ‘incurable’ was harnessed to make genital cold sores seem serious. Rare cases of fetal infection were described as if they posed a threat to every infected pregnant woman. The herpes stigma was born.

Disease-mongering had gone mainstream. The trick had been to market herpes, not aciclovir. Once herpes hit the big time, the success of aciclovir was assured. This echoed the marketing of the antiseptic mouthwash Listerine in the 1920s, which turned a floor cleaner into a cure for ‘chronic halitosis’. In the words of advertising scholar James B Twitchell, ‘Listerine did not make mouthwash as much as it made halitosis’."


"Genital herpes is now accepted as one of the most stigmatised of all medical conditions. A Harris Interactive poll in the US in 2007 found that 39 per cent of patients were troubled by social stigma and 38 per cent made up excuses to avoid sex during an outbreak, rather than tell a partner. Only HIV was ranked higher for stigma, a truly bizarre finding for a virus that is carried by at least three quarters of the population."

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/11041#.Uzi18J0o7IU

This article is interesting in that this female was told yes she has herpes then 4 years later after testing for it she was told she doesn't then told she does...
"Blood tests are the next best, but they’re far from perfect. If you have HSV-2, they’re great—a blood test will only miss about one percent of people with the infection. But HSV-1 blood tests are far less reliable. For starters, many people test positive for HSV-1, since the test isn’t site-specific. Of those who test negative (like I did) 10-15 percent are actually false negatives, which means that the results could say you’re not infected when you are. (As my gynecologist suggested, antibody levels are sometimes undetectable.) By comparison, syphilis, HIV, and hepatitis B have almost no false negatives, Dr. Handsfield said. HSV-1 has probably the highest false-negative rate."
http://thehairpin.com/2013/11/how-i-found-out-i-didnt-have-the-herpes-id-been-living-with-for-four-years

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