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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 12:04:26 PM

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I've heard so many people, who are 200 pounds overweight, say that their weight gain has nothing to do with food. There is no food addiction.

So perhaps you could enlighten me and explain to me how do people, who are 200 pounds overweight, get this way if there is no food issue? If there is no food addiction, how do they do this?

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 12:07:59 PM

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 12:21:05 PM

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If there is no food addiction, how do they do this?

I have PCOS which means that I've been insulin resistant most of my life. It's not about how much eat, it's about what I eat. Eating what many consider to be a healthy diet will cause me to gain weight. It's estimated that at least 25% of the female population has PCOS.

Then we can talk about how the human body wasn't really designed to eat wheat, and the version of wheat out now is actually worse for us. People with wheat allergies/issues will gain weight from wheat.

And lastly, we can talk about the effects of a high carb diet, especially when combined with low fat.

Simple carbs cause weight gain and we are a nation that hasn't quite realized that they're not good for us.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 12:54:05 PM

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If you think your weight is OK and you don't care what people think then why waste time ranting about it? To me you come off as ranting against something that you deep down agree with. You must truly decide if you are satisfied with yourself and if not then stop ranting and do something about it.

I find many overweight people use the "I'm big and like it and if you don't screw you" type statement as a way to avoid facing their own insecurities about their weight.

You are the only one to know if you are happy with your body and if you are just ignore the assholes and move on with your life... BUT... don't expect everyone to accept your definition of self and feel put upon because they don't find you desirable.

Remember there is a difference between respect, which everyone deserves on introduction, and desire. We all have our preferences and should not be condemned for them.

I hope this message does not come off as critical... it is not meant that way at all.

Butch

I don't normally agree with kdsub, but on this point I think kdsub has a good point. Normally I don't really care what people say about me because it normally doesn't bother me so I don't make rants or feel upset or anything. But I have gained some weight recently due to the fact of a job where I sit almost all day and eat junk food. If someone calls me fat right now, yeah it stings because I know it's true and I'm not happy about it whatsoever. So for me, to hear it, it just sort of hits me hard enough to motivate me and that's exactly what's happening with me right now. I'm not going to rant about it though. It's true.

As for people online telling you you are fat, a bitch, ugly, whatever.....you don't even have to have a picture or anything at all in your profile. They will still call you that. Ignore, delete. But to rant about it? Why bother?

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 1:09:46 PM

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Eat whole foods, not processed.
Cut your meat intake down to a minimum.
Hell, buy a juicer and get 2 lbs of veggies a day like my dad said.
Now, just try to gain weight . . .

Only you choose what goes in your mouth.

It's all about the food and the fact some people are just too foolish to eat well. You are what you eat so have another hamburger and a Twinky then call it addiction instead of stupidity. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying it is easy for most people. I am saying it isn't smart to live on Twinkies and McDonald's. I don't live on a farm. I can't walk out the door and pick fresh food off the farm anytime of the day. But I can pack a lunch or make a pitcher of juice and take it with me instead of eating at fast food places or restaurants. In a compromise, I can hit a buffet and pick things that are a lesser evil or order salads in restaurants.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 1:33:40 PM

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I had a whole post wrote out but have decided that I am going to keep the thoughts to myself and disagree with a few but am thankful that I

really like who I am so others opinion no longer matter to me. Op to you I truly hope you are happy with who you are kiddo because life only

gets better when we truly accept who and what we are. Best of luck to you.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 1:49:43 PM

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Then we can talk about how the human body wasn't really designed to eat wheat, and the version of wheat out now is actually worse for us. People with wheat allergies/issues will gain weight from wheat.

Yep, hello. I figured this out a couple years ago by trial and error. I lost 30 pounds and am still losing gradually just from drastically reducing the amount of wheat I consume. Forget whole grains. I can have some plain, cheap white bread and it doesn't seem to bother me too bad. Rice cakes are now a staple in my diet, and I really don't mind them that much. They're good smeared with peanut butter :)

I was amazed at how much better I felt after 3 days of being totally wheat-free. And my big fat belly shrunk drastically, lol. It wasn't fat as much as it was just bloated up with gas and undigested wheat, ugh. All my old jeans that I could barely squeeze into now almost fall off me. I was even able to buy a smaller size, yay!

Being "sensitive" to wheat or having a wheat allergy isn't necessarily the same as having celiac disease. I eat a lot of gluten-free now even though I don't have to because I don't have celiac, I'm just sensitive to wheat and limit how much of it I eat. Sometimes I go days without any and I don't miss it at all. It's hard, though, because EVERYTHING has wheat in it.

I've also eliminated almost all processed food, anything boxed, except wheat-free crackers and cereal. I cook fresh most of the time, and I have found that the fast food I "treat" myself to maybe once a month doesn't seem like such a treat anymore, yuk. I've been so much healthier the past two years, it's amazing.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 1:56:37 PM

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.... somehow double posted

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 4:54:04 PM

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Okay darlin, don't let that crap get to you. I'll clue you in on a secret, all men are attracted to different women, there is no standard mold that we all agree upon, but what we CAN and DO agree on confidence. If you are happy with your body image, that confidence in you is going to shine through, and confident is feckin sexy!

I'm in total agreement with you, accept you for who you are. However, if you haven't accepted it... "I'm trying to get healthier", you cannot expect your potential partner to accept it.

I would encourage you to really soul search and set realistic goals for your health, weight, and all else you are wanting to improve, look at that goal and make sure that the target is where your happy sits. Take a step toward it and let us help you with all the encouragement we can give you here. You could go so far as to lay out your goals in your journal and do updates there as well. But I would only do this, if you aren't happy with where you are. Don't do it for someone other than yourself, or because some asshole sent a nasty note.

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I've accepted that I am a bigger woman...I don't ever see myself as ending up being skinny...I just have depression, so I come off as if I don't love myself....when I do love myself.

I love my face, I love my smile. I love my laugh, and I love my giggles. I love my tits, and ass...I love my personality. I love how innocent I am, with some twisted thoughts thrown in, (why else would I be on a site like collarme? :P)

I'm just fed up with being seen as a fat woman...when that's not how I view myself. I view myself as sexy. It's taken me forever to realize it...but I am happy with the way that I am. I don't want to lose weight, I want to be eat healthier, and have a better body on the inside...that's all.

Please have your thyroid checked. Hypothyroidism is severely under diagnosed. or misdiagnosed as depression.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 5:07:13 PM

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My Mom used to tell me if someone says something and it hurts, there may be some truth to it. For example, if someone called a person "Moron" that person may not think anything of it and wouldn't even think twice about it. However, if the insult stung, there's some truth to it, or else it wouldn't sting. One may have a PhD but feels very insecure about his/her intelligence. So when someone calls this person "Moron" it's not about this person lacking education, but about this person's insecurity. One may have dropped out of high school and this person feels really bad about it. When someone calls this person "Moron" it will hurt.

If someone calls a person "fat" and it hurts, there is something there. If there wasn't anything there it wouldn't hurt.

Can we justify the harm we do to ourselves? Many people have to hit bottom before they make a change. We need to change before we have to.

Feeling hurt can be a good thing because it can prompt us to make changes.

There is some truth here. Heck, even in AA, people talk about this... if something bothers you about someone else, it probably is something in you, too.

I don't think that feeling HURT helps, but getting angry sure can! I never took chemistry in high school. I cut up brains and learned loads of neurology in college and have a couple of science degrees, but I always feel a little insecure about not understanding chemistry. Should other people call me stupid and hurt me? No, that's mean. I still have that little sensitive spot, though, and there ARE jerks in the world who will try to hurt me. I can take an online chem course or read some books or heck, ask my sister if the heart, the high school chem teacher, to teach me. Or I can decide it's not important enough at this point to change it and continue on my merry way.

People have wounded places. Others can tap into and hurt those places. The question really is... do I choose to heal that place or continue to allow it to be a sensitive spot?

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 5:17:48 PM

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This will probably not be a popular post but it's something to think about. I was working a very stressful job and went to my doctor about my weight gain. I'm a comfort food eater. I deal with stress with cheeseburgers and ice cream.

We talked about me getting on a diet regime and I just told him I could not get there from here. So we agreed to put me on Valuim for the stress. It worked. It realy helped with my stress and I lost 70 lbs.

What it comes down to is every one is different and different things work for different people. I've gained some of my weight back but I already know I would do the same thing if I decide to lose some weight again. Pick what works for you and stick with it.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 7:33:26 PM

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I started a Buddhism class last week, which would have been a very stressful week at work, but my Buddhism homework really helped.

There are many paths up the mountain :)

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 7:58:11 PM

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I've heard so many people, who are 200 pounds overweight, say that their weight gain has nothing to do with food. There is no food addiction.

So perhaps you could enlighten me and explain to me how do people, who are 200 pounds overweight, get this way if there is no food issue? If there is no food addiction, how do they do this?

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I would think you would know the answer to all these questions based on your height/weight in your profile.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 8:39:54 PM

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Yep, hello. I figured this out a couple years ago by trial and error. I lost 30 pounds and am still losing gradually just from drastically reducing the amount of wheat I consume.

Wow! How long did losing 30lbs take? I am 140lbs now, and I need to be 110lbs for my short height of 5'4 to be healthy.
Although I have cut my carbo intake and been focusing on meat and vegetables, as well as I do interval trainings and long distance skate and hikes, I know I burn about 3000 calories from exercise every week and all the stair climbing at hikes has really shaped my butt to bums of steel but I am not losing a single pound at all and it's been nearly a year and am in despair. All I see is more muscles growing from work outs and getting firmer, but not slimmer! I purposely am doing more half marathon distances for my hikes, and it's on a interval, walk/run pace to burn more calories, because I want the slim lean marathon physique, but it's not working.

The only time I ever managed to lose weight was living on one cup of yogurt a day for a month, and I lost 10lbs. But that was an extremely difficult diet to keep up for long term, although it works.

Oh damn, I forgot I am chinese, rice is not wheat! I don't have wheat in my diet anyway! I don't eat bread. I eat 3 table spoons of rice maybe for each meal, stir fry green leafy veges like brocolli or spinach, which are my favourites, and lots of chicken and fish. So the wheat thing probably is not working for me. I don't even eat red meat because I don't like the taste of it.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 8:55:28 PM

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Yes this. I know plenty of skinny people who eat all the time and eat a lot of junk food at that and yet they are still skinny,

Yup, come to Singapore, KFC, MacDonalds, alot of stick thin girls eat that as their daily stable. High blood pressure and cholesterol are rampant, because of their deep fried oily diet, plus our local food has alot of deep fried pork lard in it, but on the surface, they are all skinny, it's just genes. Even pregnancy doesn't do anything. You meet women with 3 kids, and they are like 100lbs and loving their KFC.
That's why I hate this BS about "You are what you eat". Not what my girlfriends are eating! They are like garbage in, and disappears magically.

And ya know, all those eating competitions, did ya not notice that the winners are ALWAYS skinny? Or is that just in Asia? Didn't the female who recently devour some 2kg steak in record time, a super stick thin skinny woman? It's the obese ones that can't eat enough to win.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/19/2014 10:12:00 PM

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 5:23:48 AM

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Yep, hello. I figured this out a couple years ago by trial and error. I lost 30 pounds and am still losing gradually just from drastically reducing the amount of wheat I consume.

Wow! How long did losing 30lbs take? I am 140lbs now, and I need to be 110lbs for my short height of 5'4 to be healthy.
Although I have cut my carbo intake and been focusing on meat and vegetables, as well as I do interval trainings and long distance skate and hikes, I know I burn about 3000 calories from exercise every week and all the stair climbing at hikes has really shaped my butt to bums of steel but I am not losing a single pound at all and it's been nearly a year and am in despair. All I see is more muscles growing from work outs and getting firmer, but not slimmer! I purposely am doing more half marathon distances for my hikes, and it's on a interval, walk/run pace to burn more calories, because I want the slim lean marathon physique, but it's not working.

The only time I ever managed to lose weight was living on one cup of yogurt a day for a month, and I lost 10lbs. But that was an extremely difficult diet to keep up for long term, although it works.

Oh damn, I forgot I am chinese, rice is not wheat! I don't have wheat in my diet anyway! I don't eat bread. I eat 3 table spoons of rice maybe for each meal, stir fry green leafy veges like brocolli or spinach, which are my favourites, and lots of chicken and fish. So the wheat thing probably is not working for me. I don't even eat red meat because I don't like the taste of it.

Have you had your bodyfat measured?

It is possible that at 140 you are not actually overweight.

And if you want a different type of body perhaps you could change the type of exercise routines you do; I have read that Pilates is helpful for a slim and lean physique.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 5:32:30 AM

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We are not talking about the elderly or disabled people. We are talking about people who harm themselves to the extent it's noticeable. I have a friend who smokes 3 packs of cigarettes a day. People are rude to him and say insulting things. It seems to me when we do harmful things to ourselves the "Universe" slaps us across the face. If we don't listen then next is our health.

Now my friend who smokes 3 packs a day. Should we enable him and say, "Don't mind what others are telling you. Keep doing what you do. Learn to accept yourself." If someone is 200 pounds overweight should we enable him/her and say, "Don't let those people bother you. You are perfect the way you are. Learn to accept yourself."

I say this because I want to help you. You are too fat, morbidly obese even. Get a grip on your food addiction before it kills you and your children are put in foster care or worse.

You can thank me later.

I hope this made you feel motivated to make the necessary changes. Personally, it made me feel like a slimeball, but hey, who am I to question what will motivate you to make changes.

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 6:58:38 AM

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I'm just fed up with being seen as a fat woman...when that's not how I view myself. I view myself as sexy. It's taken me forever to realize it...but I am happy with the way that I am. I don't want to lose weight, I want to be eat healthier, and have a better body on the inside...that's all.

oh yeah....many of us know that bullocks behaviour....including myself...

but I learned already from young adulthood onwards to shrug it off, as my parents were the worst bullies when I started to gain weight aged 20....they actually still are and especially my father doesnt realise to what a fool he makes himself in front of my partner...

As others said...just ignore them or think one of the many lovely idiot phrases about such folks...for me, i think, it helped a lot to live comfortable with it, when I dated my ex in the UK who wanted me to wear skirts and stockings when we went out...something I never considered with my weight back then (was about 90kg with 186cm) actually...didnt consider that either after nasty remarks from my dad when I was a kid despite being skinny in those days...

Anyhow, with him I started wearing skirts again and stockings and my feeling about my body changed completely....but it took time back then....

I actually still remember how once a woman was screaming at me at Tesco in London....and why....cause she wanted to know where I got those stockings from....jeeeesh, I felt like dying cause with her scream way too many people were staring at me and I never felt so glad being out there again, sitting on the tube station....damn....she could have just asked me quietly...

But yep...people can be horrible about it but it simply tells me a lot about them, so its ok when the disclose immediately, that they aint worth my further attention...

Now...these days I am working on getting my weight down (am at 110kg right now) but thats also because I am having a lovely partner who doesnt care about my body....he - unlike my parents - take me as I am....and doesnt try to force me into something....and so I get every support from him with going to the gym etc.....but do it happily because I want to....not because anyone else wants me to....thats actually also the fact my parents never grasped...that from a certain age onwards....they have no chance of forcing me into anything

So as others said....just shrug it off...we all have our faults, some faults are just better in getting hidden than others...

What amuses me most often, is, when smokers try to talk with me about living healthy....thats what happened during my 2nd apprenticeship....lots of gossip about the unhealthy chocolate I consumed (stress related) but then going outside smoking ever 45 minutes....yeah, that makes sense

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RE: This is my rant about weight, and how I'm treated f... - 1/20/2014 7:28:07 AM

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A very sexual large woman never wants for company. Just feel free to rub that in the face of your various naysayers.

I think you're very lovely. I'd be thrilled to do someone who looks like you.

Anyone going around harassing women who they'd do in a heartbeat aint right in the head -which would include pretty much all of your goofy would-be tormentors.

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