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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

It's needed here. If he didn't love me, I wouldn't trust him to care about my best interests and not to act in a manner that got him what he wanted but left me in poor shape. Love came first here.

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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman

Is love a necessary part of a long term D/s relationship or is the craving to dominate or be dominated enough to keep a couple a couple?

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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

For me, D/s is my comfort zone. For me, vanilla is a nightmare, I am very Dominant, but not domineering. I expect to be heard, but more importantly, I expect to be listened to carefully. I am very deliberate, and I deliberate at length and carefully over any and all decisions. Not ever would I do or ask to be done anything that isn't in the best interest of my girl(s). I wouldn't ever ask for anything to be done, that I, myself, am not willing to do. In most cases, if it is something I wouldn't want to do, I'll go do it because I wouldn't shirk something so crappy on to my girl(s).

I am in this for the long haul, and the only way I can commit to a lengthy relationship is with the reward of loving my girl(s) and being loved by her/them. I've been in vanilla love before, and it works until she stops following her nature and starts following peer pressure, society pressure, family pressure, religious pressure... All those subtle ( and not so subtle) nuances that superimpose an acceptable, marketable, or misconceived persona over her very nature. I've seen the struggle over and over again in vanilla girls, and I cannot allow myself to become invested in someone who can, will, does, or will be persuaded to suppress their nature and embrace a pseudo-persona, doctrine, ego, id, whatever nomenclature you want to couple it with, because it pleases ( insert faction), regardless that it is her /s nature that has me so smitten in the first place.

I'm here shopping for someone(s) to love with all the passion I have to muster... Which is a feckin LOT! I'm here for my forever, however long or short that me be, and my true guild lies in the heart of an /s(s).
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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


I am in this for the long haul, and the only way I can commit to a lengthy relationship is with the reward of loving my girl(s) and being loved by her/them. I've been in vanilla love before, and it works until she stops following her nature and starts following peer pressure, society pressure, family pressure, religious pressure... All those subtle ( and not so subtle) nuances that superimpose an acceptable, marketable, or misconceived persona over her very nature. I've seen the struggle over and over again in vanilla girls, and I cannot allow myself to become invested in someone who can, will, does, or will be persuaded to suppress their nature and embrace a pseudo-persona, doctrine, ego, id, whatever nomenclature you want to couple it with, because it pleases ( insert faction), regardless that it is her /s nature that has me so smitten in the first place.

I'm here shopping for someone(s) to love with all the passion I have to muster... Which is a feckin LOT! I'm here for my forever, however long or short that me be, and my true guild lies in the heart of an /s(s).

YMMV
Exiled

P.S. I hope that came across clear, if not, I apologize. I'm under a great amount of stress of late, and can't seem to ordinate my thoughts concisely as I'd like.

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

Tell me, have you ever considered jumping the fence?
(You might be pleasantly surprised with the Right One.)

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ORIGINAL: WorldsWorstMan

Im sure love is a part of it, for some.. Not so much for me. Its not hard to enjoy a woman, even if you dont love her.

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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

I could explain in detail the whys and what for's, but it is a very unpleasant story. I'll give you the condensed version because I don't want to dredge demons up for me or anyone else.

I'm sure you've heard the saying, "he dances to the beat of a different drummer". I'm not altogether sure mine is a drummer. I was BORN a D, not a spoiled dick, just a D. Surviving my raising was my greatest feat. It was bad, and once I sorted out the twisted BS from who I really was, I finally found ME, and I know clearly who I am.

I love and adore women. They're quite special to me, and up to the point we reach the panty ritual, they're never fuck meat. I absolutely adore FemD's, the ones that are certain who they are, like LP (yep, that's me lovin on ya babe). We can enjoy each other in earnest and there is never dick measuring (forgive the analogy, but I'm sure you know what I mean).

I get along best with women, I relate to them much better than I do to men. I am absolutely secure in my self and sexuality, and when I say "peon" is deadly feckin sexy, it's just a fact, I can admit it, but I have no attraction to men, just a good eye for pretty. That security allows me to become intimately aware of their relationships, be privy to it, and remain unbiased. All that said, I cannot and will not surrender control. I am one of the most mellow people you'll ever meet (shocker, I'm sure), but it is ALWAYS MY way. Vanilla has only hardened my resolve to hold absolute control over every aspect of my life, because with me, democracy is dead, long live the Tyrant.

Exiled

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ORIGINAL: FieryOpal

(I was only pulling your leg ... over the fence, that is. )

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ORIGINAL: WorldsWorstMan

I didnt understand the link between lesbian footwear and enjoying women without love. Is it a point about living up to stereotypes ?.

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WorldsWorstMan

Im sure love is a part of it, for some.. Not so much for me. Its not hard to enjoy a woman, even if you dont love her.

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ORIGINAL: Blueswordsman

Is love a necessary part of a long term D/s relationship or is the craving to dominate or be dominated enough to keep a couple a couple?