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LadyConstanze -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 9:34:28 AM)
LL, eating disorders are very very difficult and being confrontational doesn't help. I'm not being snarky here, but it took a while to have my thyroid diagnosed, came from out of nowhere during my teenage days (well, a lot of steroids after a nasty accident possibly helped effing it up, but most of it is genetic), I was accused of sneak eating and stuff, the only option to stay in a shape that had the approval of my mom was really being bulemic, when I was 16 I got finally treatment. it took me close to 2 decades to not see food as an enemy, if I go shopping I usually automatically go to sizes 14 to 16 because that is what my body looks to me, then a shop assistant usually gently herds me back to 2/4/6 depending on the manufacturer. Logically I know, but subconsciousness often takes over. I actually need that livestrong ap to make sure I have regular meals, because once I start skipping them, I get the high from not eating and a vicious circle starts. Logically I know I'm not anywhere near obese, but I look in the mirror and I see all the flaws, I'm aware there is a disconnect but it took me almost 2 decades to actually deal with it in a reasonable way. I don't want to play the armchair shrink, but to me it seems as if dollparts is using the bulemic tendencies as a way of control, because her medical conditions have spiralled out of control, not helped by her being bulemic at all, when we are in desperate situations, we tend to grab every straw that lets us cling on to sanity. I hope she does get help and I hope she does it ASAP, but she needs to realize that her body is not her enemy. It's not something you just decide, sometimes people can't see the forest due to all the trees.

kalikshama -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 12:57:43 PM)
Found this while looking for something for another thread: http://www.avclub.com/article/whats-it-like-to-be-a-contestant-on-the-biggest-lo-105916 AVC: Is there a therapist on the show? Some people definitely have issues behind why they’ve gained weight. NM: That's actually a good point. I never knew why I was overweight before I went on the show. I had amazing parents and I always had friends. I was never bullied, which I was obviously very grateful for. So when I went on the show and I was losing four pounds a week, five pounds a week, where everyone else was losing eight, nine pounds a week, Bob was like, “Are you eating cupcakes in the middle of the night?” He took me to Dr. H[uizenga] who’s the medical doctor on the show, and he told me I have hypothyroidism. With a hyperthyroid and genetics, you're kind of screwed. I have to work out harder and eat less than everyone else, but that’s the hand I was dealt. That’s where it clicked for me. This is my issue. I was never the person who ate a bag of Doritos or would eat a box of Oreos in one sitting. That just wasn’t me. I would eat shitty food, but I didn’t get how hard it was until now. I was fortunate that I was able to figure that out. [image]http://media.nbcphiladelphia.com/images/673*368/PHI+be+a+10+nicole+split+shot+350.jpg[/image] [image]http://fiercefatties.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/michalik2.jpg[/image]

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 2:43:18 PM)
There is only one inpatient treatment center that I can go to and they keep bulimic patients an average of two weeks and send them home. It's pointless to go there again. Especially since my labs are good I doubt they'd even keep me two weeks. (I take medication that causes high potassium so it keeps my potassium in the low normal range. And I've managed to get my GFR up to normal and keep it there a few years now.) I'm always honest with my mental health people...my therapists always know I'm purging. They don't really care. I went to an outpatient treatment center for many years...until about two years ago when insurance decided to stop covering it. I'm still waiting to get into the local mental health office in my new town...don't know if they will be helpful at all but I doubt it. Most normal mental health people know very little about eating disorders. I'm at the point in my life that I've just accepted that the eating disorder is always going to be there. I don't know any other way. I started restricting at 7 years old. Purging by 11-12. I'm 28 now. Sure it will probably kill me eventually...but people do lots of things that will kill them.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 3:18:43 PM)
An eating disorder will never leave you, it's like an addiction, you can manage it and not give in, but you live with it for the rest of your life. You're 28, far too young to give up, make a fuss, write letters, complain, ask for help, it's not coming to you, you have to go out and get it, I think your life is worth fighting for, yes, it frustrating to be fobbed off with BS, but go on the internet search for help groups, they will be able to tell you stuff you might not know that is available to you. My experience is that most docs and healthcare providers don't offer much, you have to ask them and know about your rights and then demand them!

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 3:22:39 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze An eating disorder will never leave you, it's like an addiction, you can manage it and not give in, but you live with it for the rest of your life. You're 28, far too young to give up, make a fuss, write letters, complain, ask for help, it's not coming to you, you have to go out and get it, I think your life is worth fighting for, yes, it frustrating to be fobbed off with BS, but go on the internet search for help groups, they will be able to tell you stuff you might not know that is available to you. My experience is that most docs and healthcare providers don't offer much, you have to ask them and know about your rights and then demand them! I'll think about it. See what the options are for outpatient in this area. I know the only option for inpatient is the place I've been to though...it's the only one in the state that takes medicaid. They just stabilize your labs and send you home.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 3:28:07 PM)
I might be wrong here, but my understanding is that with the new ACA you can get insurance very cheaply and pre-existing conditions don't factor? Would that be an option?

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 3:39:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I might be wrong here, but my understanding is that with the new ACA you can get insurance very cheaply and pre-existing conditions don't factor? Would that be an option? No...the copays for my medications alone would take more than what I get a month in disability.

angelikaJ -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 3:58:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I might be wrong here, but my understanding is that with the new ACA you can get insurance very cheaply and pre-existing conditions don't factor? Would that be an option? No...the copays for my medications alone would take more than what I get a month in disability. Have you opted out of medicare? You are eligible for both and medicaid should cover the premium. The copays for my medications are all under $5.00. And there are always ways of getting your medications covered. All the drug companies offer programs for those who are low income. Usually providing medications at no cost.

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 4:01:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I might be wrong here, but my understanding is that with the new ACA you can get insurance very cheaply and pre-existing conditions don't factor? Would that be an option? No...the copays for my medications alone would take more than what I get a month in disability. Have you opted out of medicare? You are eligible for both and medicaid should cover the premium. The copays for my medications are all under $5.00. And there are always ways of getting your medications covered. All the drug companies offer programs for those who are low income. Usually providing medications at no cost. I'm hoping to avoid medicare b/c it's more expensive and doesn't cover more than what my medicaid already does. Right now my meds are all $1 or $3 if it's a prior auth med.

angelikaJ -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 4:29:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze I might be wrong here, but my understanding is that with the new ACA you can get insurance very cheaply and pre-existing conditions don't factor? Would that be an option? No...the copays for my medications alone would take more than what I get a month in disability. Have you opted out of medicare? You are eligible for both and medicaid should cover the premium. The copays for my medications are all under $5.00. And there are always ways of getting your medications covered. All the drug companies offer programs for those who are low income. Usually providing medications at no cost. I'm hoping to avoid medicare b/c it's more expensive and doesn't cover more than what my medicaid already does. Right now my meds are all $1 or $3 if it's a prior auth med. Many states are offering managed care One plans now that cover much more than either medicare or medicaid separately. You may want to find out if your state is one of them. Medicare may also have diffferent options for treating your eating disorder. And my medicare premium is paid by the state, so it isn't more expensive.

LafayetteLady -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 5:04:17 PM)
You can't avoid medicare unless you have a spouse with insurance or carry your own. Medicaid doesn't count as either. Depending on the amount of disability you receive you may have both medicare and medicaid. You live in NY right? Did they not expand medicaid? NJ did and now all medicaid recipients have an HMO and NO co-pays. In fact I've never heard of co-pays with mediCAID only medicare. Being bulemic is much like being an alcoholic; you have to want to stop. You don't. I do understand where LC is coming from but you like to believe you know more than the doctors and seem to rely on non-medical websites for information. You say that your mental health providers don't care. Perhaps because you refuse to even try to work on it. If your surgeons and medical doctors were fully aware, they would be doing something, and they certainly wouldn't be operating on you. You lack both the physical and mental stability to go through it. Doctors, surgeons, counselors and such aren't there to change your life. You have to want to change, and quite clearly you have no desire to change. Perhaps the attention you get because of it makes you continue. Whatever it is, you can go on binging and purging and lying to everyone including yourself that you have some "good" number/levels. Anything to keep the attention and have people feel sorry for you.

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 5:52:49 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady You can't avoid medicare unless you have a spouse with insurance or carry your own. Medicaid doesn't count as either. Depending on the amount of disability you receive you may have both medicare and medicaid. You live in NY right? Did they not expand medicaid? NJ did and now all medicaid recipients have an HMO and NO co-pays. In fact I've never heard of co-pays with mediCAID only medicare. Being bulemic is much like being an alcoholic; you have to want to stop. You don't. I do understand where LC is coming from but you like to believe you know more than the doctors and seem to rely on non-medical websites for information. You say that your mental health providers don't care. Perhaps because you refuse to even try to work on it. If your surgeons and medical doctors were fully aware, they would be doing something, and they certainly wouldn't be operating on you. You lack both the physical and mental stability to go through it. Doctors, surgeons, counselors and such aren't there to change your life. You have to want to change, and quite clearly you have no desire to change. Perhaps the attention you get because of it makes you continue. Whatever it is, you can go on binging and purging and lying to everyone including yourself that you have some "good" number/levels. Anything to keep the attention and have people feel sorry for you. All medicaid here has copays. Always has as long as I've been an adult. They've let me keep just medicaid...never said I had to get medicare too. I don't know why you assume I lie to everyone. I try to not let my boyfriend notice behaviors just b/c I don't want him to worry but he still does. I don't lie if he asks me if I just purged. I will tell the truth. But I don't like bring it up. All my doctors have always known...at least the past 8 years or so...they don't do anything. Actually keep suggesting gastric bypass LOL like that would fix it. But my outpatient clinic I was going to said that that would kill me if I did it...I was actually really worried about having the back surgery...that something could go wrong with the general anesthesia but my doctor told me that my being over weight was more dangerous than my bulimia. shrugs

Ladytisha -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 6:00:09 PM)
Medicaid doesn't have a copay

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 6:00:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Ladytisha Medicaid doesn't have a copay I'm assuming it varies from state to state. But my medicaid does have a copay.

Ladytisha -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 6:02:20 PM)
Really, I have never heard of that. I'm in Tx Medicaid here has no copay

angelikaJ -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 6:02:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady You can't avoid medicare unless you have a spouse with insurance or carry your own. Medicaid doesn't count as either. Depending on the amount of disability you receive you may have both medicare and medicaid. You live in NY right? Did they not expand medicaid? NJ did and now all medicaid recipients have an HMO and NO co-pays. In fact I've never heard of co-pays with mediCAID only medicare. Being bulemic is much like being an alcoholic; you have to want to stop. You don't. I do understand where LC is coming from but you like to believe you know more than the doctors and seem to rely on non-medical websites for information. You say that your mental health providers don't care. Perhaps because you refuse to even try to work on it. If your surgeons and medical doctors were fully aware, they would be doing something, and they certainly wouldn't be operating on you. You lack both the physical and mental stability to go through it. Doctors, surgeons, counselors and such aren't there to change your life. You have to want to change, and quite clearly you have no desire to change. Perhaps the attention you get because of it makes you continue. Whatever it is, you can go on binging and purging and lying to everyone including yourself that you have some "good" number/levels. Anything to keep the attention and have people feel sorry for you. All medicaid here has copays. Always has as long as I've been an adult. They've let me keep just medicaid...never said I had to get medicare too. I don't know why you assume I lie to everyone. I try to not let my boyfriend notice behaviors just b/c I don't want him to worry but he still does. I don't lie if he asks me if I just purged. I will tell the truth. But I don't like bring it up. All my doctors have always known...at least the past 8 years or so...they don't do anything. Actually keep suggesting gastric bypass LOL like that would fix it. But my outpatient clinic I was going to said that that would kill me if I did it...I was actually really worried about having the back surgery...that something could go wrong with the general anesthesia but my doctor told me that my being over weight was more dangerous than my bulimia. shrugs This is the updated information on what you may qualify for. The first option (if you make that little) probably offers the best coverage as it covers more. http://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/program/update/savingsprogram/medicaresavingsprogram.htm

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 6:09:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady You can't avoid medicare unless you have a spouse with insurance or carry your own. Medicaid doesn't count as either. Depending on the amount of disability you receive you may have both medicare and medicaid. You live in NY right? Did they not expand medicaid? NJ did and now all medicaid recipients have an HMO and NO co-pays. In fact I've never heard of co-pays with mediCAID only medicare. Being bulemic is much like being an alcoholic; you have to want to stop. You don't. I do understand where LC is coming from but you like to believe you know more than the doctors and seem to rely on non-medical websites for information. You say that your mental health providers don't care. Perhaps because you refuse to even try to work on it. If your surgeons and medical doctors were fully aware, they would be doing something, and they certainly wouldn't be operating on you. You lack both the physical and mental stability to go through it. Doctors, surgeons, counselors and such aren't there to change your life. You have to want to change, and quite clearly you have no desire to change. Perhaps the attention you get because of it makes you continue. Whatever it is, you can go on binging and purging and lying to everyone including yourself that you have some "good" number/levels. Anything to keep the attention and have people feel sorry for you. All medicaid here has copays. Always has as long as I've been an adult. They've let me keep just medicaid...never said I had to get medicare too. I don't know why you assume I lie to everyone. I try to not let my boyfriend notice behaviors just b/c I don't want him to worry but he still does. I don't lie if he asks me if I just purged. I will tell the truth. But I don't like bring it up. All my doctors have always known...at least the past 8 years or so...they don't do anything. Actually keep suggesting gastric bypass LOL like that would fix it. But my outpatient clinic I was going to said that that would kill me if I did it...I was actually really worried about having the back surgery...that something could go wrong with the general anesthesia but my doctor told me that my being over weight was more dangerous than my bulimia. shrugs This is the updated information on what you may qualify for. The first option (if you make that little) probably offers the best coverage as it covers more. http://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/program/update/savingsprogram/medicaresavingsprogram.htm I'm fine with just having medicaid. They cover everything I need.

smileforme50 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 6:23:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: Ladytisha Medicaid doesn't have a copay I'm assuming it varies from state to state. But my medicaid does have a copay. It probably varies from state to state. I know when I worked in a pharmacy in the late 90s in Delaware Medicaid prescriptions didn't have a co-pay, but by the time I left in early 2003 and when I left, they DID have a co-pay. I will NEVER forget....there was a woman who came in every 4 weeks for her Xanax refill....like clockwork. The first time she came in and she was told she had to pay something for it, she HAD A FIT. She wasn't expecting it at all. My co-workers and I always wanted to strangle his woman because she ALWAYS had her hair done and a fresh manicure. But it was funny, her hairstyle looked like she had short black hair with a "cap" of white (blond?) hair sitting on top of the black hair. She looked like Cruella DeVille. Here she was getting her hair cut and professionally colored, plus her nails done, and spending money on all kinds of makeup.....but she was going to have a fit when she had to pay $5 for her prescription.

angelikaJ -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 6:29:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady You can't avoid medicare unless you have a spouse with insurance or carry your own. Medicaid doesn't count as either. Depending on the amount of disability you receive you may have both medicare and medicaid. You live in NY right? Did they not expand medicaid? NJ did and now all medicaid recipients have an HMO and NO co-pays. In fact I've never heard of co-pays with mediCAID only medicare. Being bulemic is much like being an alcoholic; you have to want to stop. You don't. I do understand where LC is coming from but you like to believe you know more than the doctors and seem to rely on non-medical websites for information. You say that your mental health providers don't care. Perhaps because you refuse to even try to work on it. If your surgeons and medical doctors were fully aware, they would be doing something, and they certainly wouldn't be operating on you. You lack both the physical and mental stability to go through it. Doctors, surgeons, counselors and such aren't there to change your life. You have to want to change, and quite clearly you have no desire to change. Perhaps the attention you get because of it makes you continue. Whatever it is, you can go on binging and purging and lying to everyone including yourself that you have some "good" number/levels. Anything to keep the attention and have people feel sorry for you. All medicaid here has copays. Always has as long as I've been an adult. They've let me keep just medicaid...never said I had to get medicare too. I don't know why you assume I lie to everyone. I try to not let my boyfriend notice behaviors just b/c I don't want him to worry but he still does. I don't lie if he asks me if I just purged. I will tell the truth. But I don't like bring it up. All my doctors have always known...at least the past 8 years or so...they don't do anything. Actually keep suggesting gastric bypass LOL like that would fix it. But my outpatient clinic I was going to said that that would kill me if I did it...I was actually really worried about having the back surgery...that something could go wrong with the general anesthesia but my doctor told me that my being over weight was more dangerous than my bulimia. shrugs This is the updated information on what you may qualify for. The first option (if you make that little) probably offers the best coverage as it covers more. http://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/program/update/savingsprogram/medicaresavingsprogram.htm I'm fine with just having medicaid. They cover everything I need. You were just complaining that you couldn't find a decent in-patient program for your bulimia. With medicare you could seek treatment out of state. BTW some centers in your state do have scholarships for those with financial need. Columbia also has an eating disorders research center. edit: fix link

dollparts85 -> RE: Natural/OTC ways to treat severe pain? (2/16/2014 6:31:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ quote: ORIGINAL: dollparts85 quote: ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady You can't avoid medicare unless you have a spouse with insurance or carry your own. Medicaid doesn't count as either. Depending on the amount of disability you receive you may have both medicare and medicaid. You live in NY right? Did they not expand medicaid? NJ did and now all medicaid recipients have an HMO and NO co-pays. In fact I've never heard of co-pays with mediCAID only medicare. Being bulemic is much like being an alcoholic; you have to want to stop. You don't. I do understand where LC is coming from but you like to believe you know more than the doctors and seem to rely on non-medical websites for information. You say that your mental health providers don't care. Perhaps because you refuse to even try to work on it. If your surgeons and medical doctors were fully aware, they would be doing something, and they certainly wouldn't be operating on you. You lack both the physical and mental stability to go through it. Doctors, surgeons, counselors and such aren't there to change your life. You have to want to change, and quite clearly you have no desire to change. Perhaps the attention you get because of it makes you continue. Whatever it is, you can go on binging and purging and lying to everyone including yourself that you have some "good" number/levels. Anything to keep the attention and have people feel sorry for you. All medicaid here has copays. Always has as long as I've been an adult. They've let me keep just medicaid...never said I had to get medicare too. I don't know why you assume I lie to everyone. I try to not let my boyfriend notice behaviors just b/c I don't want him to worry but he still does. I don't lie if he asks me if I just purged. I will tell the truth. But I don't like bring it up. All my doctors have always known...at least the past 8 years or so...they don't do anything. Actually keep suggesting gastric bypass LOL like that would fix it. But my outpatient clinic I was going to said that that would kill me if I did it...I was actually really worried about having the back surgery...that something could go wrong with the general anesthesia but my doctor told me that my being over weight was more dangerous than my bulimia. shrugs This is the updated information on what you may qualify for. The first option (if you make that little) probably offers the best coverage as it covers more. http://www.health.ny.gov/health_care/medicaid/program/update/savingsprogram/medicaresavingsprogram.htm I'm fine with just having medicaid. They cover everything I need. You were just complaining that you couldn't find a decent in-patient program for your bulimia. With medicare you could seek treatment out of state. BTW some centers in your state do have scholarships for those with financial need. Columbia also has an eating disorders research center. edit: fix link They won't cover out of state either. I know people here in NY on medicare and they can only go to New York Presbytarian too.

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