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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/17/2014 11:31:56 PM

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Yes I know, LOL

But, the problem is that people arent reading with comprehension or ignoring it

the father texted his son, son turns up (15 minutes ) later and the shooting was over.
the video shows the "lights" were far from down when the shooting occurred.

Its neither bullshit or a stretch.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 9:35:57 AM

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the father texted his son, son turns up (15 minutes ) later and the shooting was over.
the video shows the "lights" were far from down when the shooting occurred.

I doubt any of that is going to matter. From the story linked earlier in the thread:

One witness reported hearing one of the men - the witness didn't know which - say "Touch me again and I'll kill you," before the shot was fired. Others heard one say something that sounded like "get out of my face..." In an interview with a Pasco sheriff's detective after the shooting, Reeves said he was scared for his life after Oulson came over the seat and punched him in the face

I've been checking into the Florida statutes. If witnesses corroborate his story, it seems unlikely that the case will get past the pre-trial hearing.

784.03 Battery; felony battery
(1)(a) The offense of battery occurs when a person:
1. Actually and intentionally touches or strikes another person against the will of the other; or
2. Intentionally causes bodily harm to another person.

784.08 Assault or battery on persons 65 years of age or older
(2) Whenever a person is charged with committing an assault or aggravated assault or a battery or aggravated battery upon a person 65 years of age or older, regardless of whether he or she knows or has reason to know the age of the victim, the offense for which the person is charged shall be reclassified as follows:
(c) In the case of battery, from a misdemeanor of the first degree to a felony of the third degree.
(3) Notwithstanding the provisions of s. 948.01, adjudication of guilt or imposition of sentence shall not be suspended, deferred, or withheld.

782.02 Justifiable use of deadly force
The use of deadly force is justifiable when a person is resisting any attempt to murder such person or to commit any felony upon him or her or upon or in any dwelling house in which such person shall be.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 10:01:32 AM

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oh FFS why not look up the previous thread and information instead of making freaking stupid assumptions about me assuming

I was commenting on what you said in this thread. And since according to your link "The revelation comes from court documents released Wednesday in the case that has drawn national attention." I seriously doubt it was brought up in the other thread. And since he shot the guy because he thought he was attacking him and not for texting I am not sure why you are trying to compare the two.

and once again, the topic states POPCORN, meaning I know the popcorn was involved AND that texting led up to it. SO yanno, you could actually go read the previous thread where more than one person provided links to the video,
and news links that have been around since the 13 th of january this year.
the revelation was that the damn shooter was TEXTING himself. THat was the unknown until the court documents release on wednesday

bloody hell do try to keep up

So you knew he didn't get shot for texting but you felt the need to say it anyway. Gottcha.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 10:54:35 AM

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Sorry hun.....no less clueless than usual......

If you`d been following the story from the beginning....you would have heard the killer`s story about shooting the vic b/c THE VICTIM was texting.....

Which makes the news about the killer texting ,what we call news.....

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 11:59:30 AM

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banging my head on the fucking desk, Ive had enough of the dishonest bullshit for today...I refuse to deal with mental midgets and their fucked up comprehension issues.
gonna go before I descend into uber disgust and get a gold mail.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 12:14:49 PM

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Sorry hun.....no less clueless than usual......

If you`d been following the story from the beginning....you would have heard the killer`s story about shooting the vic b/c THE VICTIM was texting.....

Which makes the news about the killer texting ,what we call news.....

I have been following the story which is why I know he went and complained to the management because the guy was texting. He shot him because he claims he was in fear for his life. Now I don't know if he was really afraid or not, but I do know that was his story and at that point didn't have anything to do with the text.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 12:20:31 PM

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Seems a lot of gun carriers are easily scared. Doesn't it?

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 12:45:16 PM

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Yep... Imagine the results of the Candid Camera of the 60's show in Florida or Missouri today.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 2:24:59 PM

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Maybe that's why it isn't on the telly anymore?

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 2:31:13 PM

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Yep... Imagine the results of the Candid Camera of the 60's show in Florida or Missouri today.

Butch

Ouch...

What kids do with guns

When parents aren`t around....

Chilling......

Especially the stats.

We can`t call it a healthcare crisis b/c of the lunatic fringe and their willing humps.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 2:57:14 PM

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Seems a lot of gun carriers are easily scared. Doesn't it?

Yes it does seem that way.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 5:51:18 PM

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Hmmm. Does this mean the posters who've been insisting that the aging bully was right to shoot somebody for txting in a cinema as that should carry the death penalty will now repudiate him?

Who the fuck said the guy was justified for shooting someone for texting?

I mean talk about stretching the facts.... by a fucking lightyear.

And people criticize me for stretching the facts.

He's not called moonhead for nothing.
I'm waiting for the movie popcorn killer to release. I heard it's awesome.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 7:27:31 PM

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the video shows the "lights" were far from down when the shooting occurred.

No, Lucy, it doesn't. It's a low light/night vision camera.

Does "dishonest bullshit" mean something else in your part of the world? Going from context, I'd interpret it as something along the lines of "not letting my misperceptions, mischaracterizations, and inaccuracies go unquestioned." It means something different here.

Since you referenced the dead asshole thread, might I remind you that I said from go over there that I did not think the shooting was justified, and that the cop would be going to prison?

The interaction between the two men began over texting. That the shooter had texted earlier means nothing if the house lights were still up, and the time between his text and the altercation strongly suggests they were.

Let's bring up another detail, since we are on the subject of dishonest bullshit. Prior to the altercation turning physical, the shooter disengaged from the discussion and left the auditorium. He went to the management of the theater for a resolution. When he returned, the asshole who wound up dead chose to reinitiate the incident by taunting the old man, and flinging something into his face.

Got that? The old man walked away. The asshole who wound up dead started the second act. Plug that into your equation, or drop the pretense that your position isn't "dishonest bullshit," as the phrase gets used in these parts.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 7:31:32 PM

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Seems a lot of gun carriers are easily scared. Doesn't it?

Yes it does seem that way.

Wouldn't we need a good number for how many gun carriers are out there, before we presume that? And maybe a good number on assaults involving people who aren't carrying guns for comparison?

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 9:40:18 PM

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When I would give you numbers you would contest the source, so why bother?

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 9:52:25 PM

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When I would give you numbers you would contest the source, so why bother?

So we should just stipulate to speculation based on hysterical media reports of isolated incidents? Are you familiar with the fairly recent local subject of how a high percentage of anti-gun sorts in the media and out of it don't have the faintest actual or practical knowledge of firearms?

How about a simple agreement that the hypothesis would require some sort of reliable numbers to test one way or another?

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 9:58:46 PM

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I disassemble and assemble an uzi within 10 seconds blind.

Wanna test my knowledge?

Nah I'm not getting into this I proved it before and have no need to prove my point again. I'm not here to educate the masses.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 10:08:50 PM

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I disassemble and assemble an uzi within 10 seconds blind. Wanna test my knowledge?

Why? To helpfully hijack the topic a bit further away from the claim that shooter killed the dead asshole merely because he was texting in a movie theater?

Besides, finding an outlier case and claiming it represents some sort of majority reality is exactly what the hypothesis of gun carriers getting scaredmore often is based on. I think you have given your answers to my questions.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 10:24:07 PM

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I will not claim anything just that americans without guns are reduced to scared kittens.

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RE: "popcorn" Killer was texting before killing - 3/18/2014 11:12:31 PM

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I will not claim anything just that americans without guns are reduced to scared kittens.

Ah. Well, if it's just that sort of stuff you want to fling, I'll claim that without American guns, Europeans are a German slave labor pool.

Goodnight.

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