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Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 10:18:44 AM

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A friend of mine had an accident while climbing, managed to break his jaw in 3 different places and is wired up, he basically needs to eat through a straw the next few weeks, same guy who has a super high metabolism and needs to consume about 8000 calories to just not lose any weight, I think once he comes off the morphine, he might get fed up with milk shakes, is there anything else that is super calorific and I could make him then, and he would also be able to eat it with a straw?

I was thinking about liquidizing some curries, but with stitches and wires in his jaw, spicy food might not be a great idea...

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 10:46:02 AM

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I was thinking chili but that would have the same problem as the curry I suppose. Maybe towards the end of his treatment when the soreness has gone down a bit? A curry would be a great choice if you made it with oil and coconut.

What about creamy soups? Something like loaded baked potato soup with potatoes, cheese, sour cream etc would be pretty high fat. Or any sort of soup thickened up with real cream and potatoes/rice/pasta blended in to it.

A blended up beef stew might do the trick, especially if you allow the liquid fat from the meat to stay in, but it might be a bit greasy for him if he's not used to it.

That's such a tricky one, almost everything that comes to mind is sweet and he'll get so tired of that.

As an alternative to milkshakes, how about a fruit smoothie with added coconut cream, oats, protein powder etc?

I'll keep thinking. You're a kind friend.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 10:49:26 AM

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When my mother was wired shut from jaw surgery we were told to keep to a fairly bland diet, just in case she threw up. (We had to keep a pair of wire clippers with us at all times)

She did soups and Ensure shakes. Some of the soups can be high calorie and the Ensure shakes are 350 each.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 10:52:51 AM

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Coconut milk is high in fat; just get very mild curry. Massaman curry is especially low on the heat scale.

Peanut butter and banana smoothies are yummy and my staple breakfast during the warm months. I add a raw egg (YMMV) and a cup of half coffee, half hazelnut or almond teeccino.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 10:54:13 AM

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Thanks for the ideas!!!!

He's a great guy, when I was laid up with a broken ankle, he actually would pop around during the day to take both Dobies out because I was pretty immobile, I'd be a real shit if I wouldn't try to help him out if he's in trouble. He's having trouble enough when his jaw is working to get enough nutrition in, with a broken jaw, I don't want him wasting away and it will also reduce the pressure a bit from his partner. We've been texting and emailing as he can't talk and he was joking a bit that this is his chance to stop smoking. He's got a great sense of humour, I don't know if I could joke in that situation...

I've been thinking of maybe carbonara and instead of using spaghetti using small shell pasta, something he doesn't have to chew much or angel hair pasta.

But yes, time to concentrate on soups, very creamy soups.... He loves sweets but yeah, after a while he's bound to feel sick from all the sweet stuff. If you're in so much pain, a few creature comforts might be nice...

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 10:58:00 AM

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But yes, time to concentrate on soups, very creamy soups.... He loves sweets but yeah, after a while he's bound to feel sick from all the sweet stuff. If you're in so much pain, a few creature comforts might be nice...

A milkshake now and then can cure the sweet tooth.

My mother would even make a thick beef stew, she would just have the liquid, but she still got the flavor. (Everyone else got extra meat, potatoes and carrots).

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 10:59:40 AM

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I was thinking I could use a blender for meat, potatoes and carrots...

The main problem is really getting enough calories into him so he won't lose a lot of weight

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:00:24 AM

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All I can do is wish your friend a quick and complete recovery. And really, really wish I could borrow his metabolism!

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:01:44 AM

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He would love to give it to you, costs him a fortune!

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:04:12 AM

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Forget adult food.
What the hell do we feed babies to fatten them up and give them shit-loads of energy to grow??
BABY FOOD!!!

And a lot of it comes pre-blended with added vitamins and shit.
Loadsa different flavours too!

Sound too awful?
Try some yourself. Most are excellent and saves a lot of hassle.
By all means, supplement with milk shakes ans smoothies as well.

ETA: Thought I'd better add that I'm not talking formula or such but the tinned stuff or stuff in a jar; yanno, the first solids sort of stuff. Keeps for ages unopened and usually made from fresh ingredients.
As his jaw gets better, get the more chunky stuff until he can start eating proper food.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:14:54 AM

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If you do a carbanara, use orzo, not angel hair. He can't chew and a long strand of angel hair could be disasterous.

I don't know what baby food fd has had, but the baby food here is horrible! Don't do thta to your friend, lol.

Really anything can be pureed to go through a straw, but the texture will be off and might be less enjoyable.

I think the soups are a good idea, lots of options; potato, bean, broccolli, etc.

I think you will just have to experiment and see what he likes and doesn't, always keeping shakes and smoothies if a dish doesn't come out right.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:17:48 AM

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I was thinking I could use a blender for meat, potatoes and carrots...

My mother tried it and with her jaw wired shut it didn't work well since it left small granules of solid food on the inside of her teeth where she couldn't brush.

But, if he's not wired shut, I would think it would be okay.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:20:09 AM

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If you do a carbanara, use orzo, not angel hair. He can't chew and a long strand of angel hair could be disasterous.

I don't know what baby food fd has had, but the baby food here is horrible! Don't do thta to your friend, lol.

Really anything can be pureed to go through a straw, but the texture will be off and might be less enjoyable.

I think the soups are a good idea, lots of options; potato, bean, broccolli, etc.

I think you will just have to experiment and see what he likes and doesn't, always keeping shakes and smoothies if a dish doesn't come out right.

My brothers eldest has tiny tots and babies of his own these days.
We've tried all sorts of baby food - most of it is actually very good.
But there again, I haven't tasted US baby food.
Is it really that bad over there?

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:22:40 AM

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Bring on the soups with heavy cream!

I used to work for someone who made what she called "green drinks" that, in addition to the greens, contained avocados and walnuts, both of which are high in fat. This was healthy and yummy. Use whatever greens he likes that are ok raw and puree well.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:24:00 AM

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But there again, I haven't tasted US baby food.
Is it really that bad over there?

My cats loved it when I put it on their dry food to encourage them to switch brands.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:36:37 AM

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If you're going for baby food, may I suggest Ella's Kitchen? That's the nicest brand I think, tastes most like people food. But a lot of first foods (except the puddings) are just pureed veg so probably not hight calorie enough. He'd have to eat a lot of pots to get what he needed.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:45:58 AM

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I'm leaning towards a lot of creamy soups, maybe blend part of it but keep it liquid enough so it's soup consistency....

Thinking I could do a bunch of roasts for H and use the fat that drips out in the soups to add flavour and calorie contend. Also quite liquid mashed potatoes with lots of butter and cream instead of milk, a ton of gravy with it....

I'm thinking the milkshakes and baby food is something he'll possibly do for himself and that I just bring him a bunch of stuff a few times a week to cheer him up and give him something a bit different. He's going back to the hospital tomorrow to see if they can put plates in (in case the swelling has gone down sufficiently).

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 11:58:24 AM

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If you do a carbanara, use orzo, not angel hair. He can't chew and a long strand of angel hair could be disasterous.

I don't know what baby food fd has had, but the baby food here is horrible! Don't do thta to your friend, lol.

Really anything can be pureed to go through a straw, but the texture will be off and might be less enjoyable.

I think the soups are a good idea, lots of options; potato, bean, broccolli, etc.

I think you will just have to experiment and see what he likes and doesn't, always keeping shakes and smoothies if a dish doesn't come out right.

I might be able to freestyle with risotto and blend that to a very liquid consistency...

As for baby food, they are usually tiny tiny little jars, would take A LOT of them to fill up a grown up who has to eat about 3 times as much as anybody else.

I really didn't think about orzo, as I don't use it much myself. I'm used to cooking with an eye towards a balanced diet that isn't too calorific, so that's going to be a massive change. I think another option is highly calorific sauces and gravy with tons of mashed potatoes (made more liquid than usual) dripping with butter and cream.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 12:17:09 PM

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Thick smoothies are a great source of calories and nutrition, someone mentioned a banana and smooth peanut butter one, which is ideal.

To counter the smoothie would be soups, lentils can be added along with quinoa.

Extra creamy scrambled eggs cooked so they're very soft (not runny), can add a little smoked salmon to that finely chopped.

Fish pie with lots of creamy sauce topped with butternut squash/sweet potato mash - very soft consistency

Aubergine parmigiana - I used to make it a lot and one occasion over cooked the aubergine so they went very soft and it was still just as delicious.

A creamy thai chicken curry should be fine, high in calories and while the flavour is there it's not super spicy

Ground beef with mashed potatoes

Home made rice pudding, extra creamy

Avocados and olives are high calorie so you could always blend these individually and do a kind of tapas for him

Cheese n potato 'pie', or cheese sauce with vermicelli - enough cheese to sink a battle ship lol

I hope the above helps and your friend is soon on the mend.

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RE: Super calorific food? - 3/18/2014 12:59:37 PM

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8000 calories? Did the hulk break his jaw?

You can always throw some peanut butter in a smoothie to beef it up a little bit, protein powders are also a great source of calories. (Get the good stuff).

Try a couple scoops of protein powder, frozen chopped banana, glob of peanut butter, coconut milk and ice... Blend.

I have no idea how that tastes. It sounds good. Like you, I'm used to cooking low calorie stuff

It sounds like your friend is super active, so keep in mind he won't be climbing and jumping around with a broken jaw. His calorific needs are going to drop, although they'll still be increased due to healing. He probably already adheres to a high protein diet, keep it like that.

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