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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:10:18 PM   
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Most people would agree that the former democratic senator from West Virginia Robert Byrd was both a liberal, and an admitted member of the Ku Klux Klan...

It would seem that you may be mistaken.

It is not good to make blanket statements about racism, in fact most people are racist in some form or the other, racism is not confined to just white folks either, members of racists groups like the Black Panthers and other racist groups are not white.

I would also like to point out that the current President of the United States of America is black, meaning that it would seem we have gotten to the point where crying " the reason I cannot succeed in life is because I am black" holds no water.


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:15:21 PM   
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Affirmative Action is racially discriminatory in and of itself.

How so???because it prevents employers from discriminating....break my fucking heart. The ebil govt made a law that prevents bigots from acting like an asshole and you are upset...I am so surprised.


It's also demeaning to minorities, effectively stating that they can't get jobs on their own merit

That would be your ignorant self serving opinion. They clearly can get jobs on their own merit except when fucking bigots that you support prevent their hiring. If you think that is not true then I would suggest that you are totally ignorant of u.s.history.

The CRA was absolutely necessary.
I wasn't alive at that time, but I'm still ashamed that the US society required government intrusion to force society to treat people without regard to their skin color.

But you disaprove of how it was done...Well here is your chance. Tell us how you would have done it?

Hate crime legislation is applied in a discriminatory nature.

Kinda like hate

How is welfare addressing "civil" rights?

These are two different issues which you are trying to conflate as one.




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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:19:08 PM   
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It is funny how things change over time... the liberal of the past is more aligned to the views of the conservative today...



Perhaps you could validate this ignorant opinion.



I would say that the liberal of yore is more aligned with Libertarians, not Conservatives, so much.


No one cares about ignorant opinion...how about some historical data to back up this moronic divel.

I disagree that today's liberal principles don't encompass racists.

If that were true then you would be able to post it up from some reference...why have you not done so?

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:22:32 PM   
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I'm personally on the edge of affirmative action. I do understand it's meant to prevent descrimination, but on the other hand it would technically descrimination against others who might not be covered by affirmative action, but could be more qualified than those who are. People should be hired based on their own skills and abilities, not because some law says so and not because a bigot favors one over another. It's a fine line, and personally I feel that the government in as many countries as possible needs to take steps to eliminate human opinions all together in the hiring of employees. I personally think it should be computerized, but sadly computers aren't quite sophisticated for that...

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:22:59 PM   
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Wait... so, there seems to be racial discrimination in hiring, so the only way to deter that, is with a program that discriminates according to race?

Acually it discriminates against bigots. That you refuse to see that is quite instructive.

That's fuckin' brilliant! Apparently, to you, two wrongs do make a right.

So you are saying it is wrong to not hire a minority and it is also wrong to require americans to obey the constitution.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:26:42 PM   
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you will refuse to admit this but you are as racist and bigoted as anyone I have seen here

you discriminate and insult any and everyone who disagrees with your political views....


To diasgree with someone for cause is not bigotry.

sorry son that NO DIFFERANT than hating an Irishman because of his religious views

To hate an irish man because of his religious views is bigotry. To castigate his beliefs for lack of validation is not bigotry.


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:27:59 PM   
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You don't fight racial discrimination by discriminating based on race. Anyone who can't get something as obvious as that through their head isn't using it.

The question remains...how would you have solved this problem?


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:30:40 PM   
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possibly the same reason your only resource is to call people IGNORANT who disagree with you

how bout you show something that discredits what he said instead of just calling him names??

naaaaaaaaaaa didn't think so

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:33:06 PM   
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sorry dude the constitution doesn't REQUIRE anyone to hire anyone for ANY REASON


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:33:53 PM   
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Certainly not institute a racist program in an attempt to right that wrong.

And your solution would have been?

Perhaps we allow business to hire who they want?

We tried that for about a hundred years and if you were to actually read a histoy book written for someone past the fifth grade you would know how well that worked.

I mean, yeah, it sucks that some HR person wouldn't hire someone based on skin color, but, there are plenty of other reasons a business can use to not hire who they want.

So now you are seeking to justify bigotry.

Still, racial discrimination to battle racial discrimination is still wrong.

Because you choose to call it that does not make it true.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:34:08 PM   
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like I said you'll REFUSE to admit it, but that doesn't change it, PRETEND ANYTHING you LIKE

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:36:39 PM   
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he nor anyone else said they had a solution, they just said cutting off your hand because you finger hurts is NOT THE SOLUTION

I also noticed not once have you defended it as NOT RACIST, you just DEMAND someone come up with a BETTER IDEA

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:40:34 PM   
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"How so???because it prevents employers from discriminating"

no because it REQUIRES employers to hire based on RACE, AKA REVERSE DISCRIMINATION

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:48:02 PM   
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There is more racism in 3 MTV videos of "bitches and hoes" than there is in 3 months worth of white people complaining about Blacks, Latino's or any other group in any 30 city range.


Perhaps your definition of racism needs a color blind dictionary?

There is more anti white in 3 interviews with blacks than there will ever be with any whites discussing the same topic over an entire coast, because we know better. (Yes, there are stoooppit people).

Bigots hear what they want to hear.

There is more anti men in 3 sitcoms than there will be in 100 any programs that aren't women related.

Are there any anti women vidios on tv?

I was listening to an NPR program on the radio this weekend on the East coast traveling south from Albany to the city, white guy is arguing how horrid the N word is, how derisive it is....yet it's used 12 times in 2 minutes on every hip hop video.

Now would be a good time for that dictionary...There is no law against you using the word but you seem to feel deprived because you are afraid to use it. Well step right up and use it loudly and let all of your peers know your intellectual acumin.

I can't recall a time when Spike Lee or Al Sharpton stood up for stopping the "honkey" or "cracker" references.

Why should they? Those words refer to actions not to ethnicity. In your zip code are we not allowed to castigate borish behaviour?

90 some % of blacks voted for Obama.....53% of whites did.

Who's the racist? Who's the sexist?


100% of the white people who voted from 1789 until obama voted for a white person. "Who's the racists?"

There will always be assholes but, the truth is....it ain't whites that are perpetuating this shit.

When was the last time a black mob hanged a black person?


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:51:25 PM   
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Personally, I think that public pressure penalizes racists far more effectively than fat ass dimocrats in sinecures.


That is because you are ignorant. Public pressure was ineffective for about a hundred years so much for your ignorant, moronic,insipid opinions.

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 7:58:03 PM   
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I would also like to point out that the current President of the United States of America is black, meaning that it would seem we have gotten to the point where crying " the reason I cannot succeed in life is because I am black" holds no water.


If you really believe this moronic bullshit I would suggest that you acquire a book called "black like me" The author is a white guy who alters his skin color and shaves his head and passes for black in amerika.
The formulea are in the book. So if you think they are just a bunch of lazy snivilers try being black for a while and get back to us about how fucking successful you were.


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 8:02:34 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: thompsonx


quote:

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There is more racism in 3 MTV videos of "bitches and hoes" than there is in 3 months worth of white people complaining about Blacks, Latino's or any other group in any 30 city range.


Perhaps your definition of racism needs a color blind dictionary?

perhaps NOT

There is more anti white in 3 interviews with blacks than there will ever be with any whites discussing the same topic over an entire coast, because we know better. (Yes, there are stoooppit people).

Bigots hear what they want to hear.

you REFUSE to hear anything you don't want to hear

There is more anti men in 3 sitcoms than there will be in 100 any programs that aren't women related.

Are there any anti women vidios on tv?

sure there are, see above show called BITCHS and HOES perpetuated by BLACKS DUHHHHHHHHHHHH

I was listening to an NPR program on the radio this weekend on the East coast traveling south from Albany to the city, white guy is arguing how horrid the N word is, how derisive it is....yet it's used 12 times in 2 minutes on every hip hop video.

Now would be a good time for that dictionary...There is no law against you using the word but you seem to feel deprived because you are afraid to use it. Well step right up and use it loudly and let all of your peers know your intellectual acumin.



I can't recall a time when Spike Lee or Al Sharpton stood up for stopping the "honkey" or "cracker" references.

Why should they? Those words refer to actions not to ethnicity. In your zip code are we not allowed to castigate borish behaviour?

same thing can be said of the N WORD

90 some % of blacks voted for Obama.....53% of whites did.

Who's the racist? Who's the sexist?


100% of the white people who voted from 1789 until obama voted for a white person. "Who's the racists?"

how that has to be the DUMBEST thing I have seen here yet, WELLL DUHHHH HAHAHAHA

There will always be assholes but, the truth is....it ain't whites that are perpetuating this shit.

When was the last time a black mob hanged a black person?

sorry to inform you of this but BLACK on BLACK MURDER is the most common way for a black person to die...


BTW white people used to lynch WHITE people as well, so that seems to be an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY THING

OPPSSSSSS




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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 8:04:47 PM   
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OHH BOOOO HOOO life is tuff for ALOT of people not JUST BLACKS

I can introduce you to MANY MANY WHITE people who have it just as ruff


CRY ME A RIVER

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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 8:05:17 PM   
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I'm personally on the edge of affirmative action. I do understand it's meant to prevent descrimination, but on the other hand it would technically descrimination against others who might not be covered by affirmative action, but could be more qualified than those who are. People should be hired based on their own skills and abilities, not because some law says so and not because a bigot favors one over another. It's a fine line, and personally I feel that the government in as many countries as possible needs to take steps to eliminate human opinions all together in the hiring of employees. I personally think it should be computerized, but sadly computers aren't quite sophisticated for that...


That almost sounds like you think the content of one's character rather than skin color is important. Someone else said that many years ago...


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RE: Liberal delusions on racism - 5/4/2014 8:06:29 PM   
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I'm personally on the edge of affirmative action. I do understand it's meant to prevent descrimination, but on the other hand it would technically descrimination against others who might not be covered by affirmative action, but could be more qualified than those who are.


Perhaps it would make more sense if you were to actually read the law that you disagree with before you disagree with it ?


I feel that the government in as many countries as possible needs to take steps to eliminate human opinions all together in the hiring of employees.


There is nothing wrong with an hr person hiring a person based on their opinion of their abilities. There is something wrong with an hr person not hiring a qualified person because of their race,creed,color,or sexual orientation.
Because punkassmotherfucking bigots spent about a hundred years doing that very thing that the govt. put a quota on it.

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