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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 6:37:14 AM

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If Tiffany's blog is at all accurate

Yeah, you're not the only one who thought that.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 6:50:31 AM

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This just occurred to me:

I wonder if 'CollarSpace' was the de facto sandbox environment for prelaunch to 'CollarMe'? That would explain a lot ... Especially in regard to some of the current bugs and loss of function. Video Chat was off the system for awhile, and looking at the source code and system dates, this iteration appears to be a backup shell of an earlier version that didn't feature Video Chat.

I'm wondering if 'CollarSpace' was always up and running - just not obviously visible?

Tiffany's claim of shutting CollarMe down would make more sense, then: Eric had the benefit of knowing here wouldn't be much of a disruption in service should the domain be revoked. Based on what I see, I doubt Tiffany ever really understood that the live sandbox environment would and could be used as the website in the event of domain disconnection ... Hence also the relatively short period of disruption time: all Eric had to do was make the sandbox visible by removing Test Environment status.

That's how businesses do it, more or less ... We think of CM as a 'niche dating site' and not as a web-based enterprise ...

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 6:57:49 AM

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Hmmm. This is kinda insAne.
It is doing right to the injured that matters, isn't it?
Ya know like doing the right thing? Myself I don't need a public announcement, I don't feel entitled to that. Over pictures?
Some judges actually can't be bought!
Wow can you believe it?

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 6:58:04 AM

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@ResidentSadist

I just read your response about CollarSpace being registered in 2007. I'm now pretty sure my previous musings were fairly accurate. Thank you for that ...

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 7:22:21 AM

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If Tiffany had rights to content because of name registration (she doesn't), then if you hosted a domain name on godaddy servers, but don't pay your hosting bill while still owning the domain, after they shut you off they would legally have to give you copies of the databases and software that served your domain. LMAO . . . I hope no one seriously believes that?

Tiffany owns what she has a receipt for . . . the domain name and nothing more.

Eric owns what he has a receipt for, the software and database content he built and maybe the server systems if what I heard about his IT involvement is true.

As far as scheming for weeks or months to build the new site, it takes 10 minutes to buy a domain and few hours work to import databases and program a fresh CMS software system. It doesn't take months of planning and scheming. Anyone worth their salt can copy a website . . . wait, I am doing it now. Here ya go, CollarMe is now at ResidentSadist.com.
http:http://residentsadist.com/collarspace

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 7:23:54 AM

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This just occurred to me:

I wonder if 'CollarSpace' was the de facto sandbox environment for prelaunch to 'CollarMe'? .....

No, it was created in 2007, long after collarme.com was launched.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 7:24:40 AM

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What is wrong with your slutwifes face? I dont know if I can go to that site, E. . .might get et up with what she got myself.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 7:30:40 AM

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The site comes and goes for me - over the last 24 hours ... either I get redirected to outer space or I'm told to empty my cookies. The message boards appear to be working better than the rest of the site; I can't view images in my messages, etc. So, guess I'll just check back in when this personal cold war is over. Have a safe holiday weekend, everyone.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 8:22:04 AM

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If Tiffany's blog is at all accurate

Yeah, you're not the only one who thought that.

That was my thought too. This place has long dripped drama.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 8:43:11 AM

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Maybe he just has nothing good to say about this and silence is golden.

I do know this . . . someone was burning a lot of midnight oil to keep this site up and relaunch everything. It may be bad management that brought us to this but it was good management to recover so quickly from a bad problem... like losing your domain.

This.

He doesn't need to contribute to the existing drama. He's doing what he needs to do which is focusing on ensuring people have access to their accounts and site content via collarspace.com

Exactly.

its not like this drama was created overnight, seems to me its been apparently ongoing for years.. and it in part explains the previous "Mod drama" stuff too.. He is just as responsible for the "drama" as she is.. however, I want no part of it all or to be put in the middle of the tantrums and back and forth.. both of them should have learned to act like adults ffs!

and who exactly owns collarchat.com.. him or her? I personally couldnt care about CM since i only come here to the forums (& only on a sporatic basis anyway).. but there are other websites/forums so its not like this is the only gig in town..

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 8:44:50 AM

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The self indulgent "poor me" pity party blog posting that "Tiffany" replaced collarme with was an immediate red flag to me. It screams of a desperate woman scorned and airing her personal drama while slandering her ex partner is trashy. There are three sides to every story, I had a comment I posted on the blog censored and removed. If what she says about her child is true I feel bad, but her hissy fit and pulling the site took away what ammo she had. Now she has nothing. This is all just annoying.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 8:58:39 AM

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Thanks for the tip to Kinkytoo, RS. I have been searching for a new kink site since the imploding mod business. It was getting too drama-laden on CM of late. Also thanks for the direction to collarspace where I was able to delete my profile. As much as I loved the forums here I suspect the drama is a permanent black mold on the structure.

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It's been a mess for years now. The owners fight with each other.

A crazy mess and it still is. That is why I joined kinkytoo.com.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 9:11:33 AM

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After briefly getting caught up in the mod drama, I lost interest in it very fast. Not why I'm here on the profile side or the forum side. But I don't care how much drama there is; it's my choice to get embroiled in it or not. When it got boring, I stepped back.

Same thing now. The inconvenience of the site disappearing for awhile was trivial, and it was reinstated quickly. So I am reading forums again.

Quitting the site strikes me as an overly dramatic response to fucking drama. It's easy to ignore the drama if we want and to read threads that discuss something else.

I figured during the mod implosion (and I like 2 of the 3 mods who left) that their side of the story was matched by another side, of which I knew nothing. No point in taking up arms unless I know all sides of the battle, and probably not even then.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 9:21:37 AM

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It screams of a desperate woman scorned

Best brand name ever?

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 9:22:55 AM

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Who are Tiffany and Eric anyway?

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 9:27:32 AM

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Who are Tiffany and Eric anyway?

Two people with hopes and dreams.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 9:38:54 AM

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OK, now I'm less angry that my account apparently still existed though I deleted it. Got a notification from "collarspace" and was confused.
I would advise kinkytoo also. This is on the far side of ridiculous and I'm not even going to try to figure it out.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 11:06:37 AM

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Here's what I think:

CollarMe definitely must continue to exist. For all its quirks and issues, it's the best site to find a BDSM partner. FetLife is way too tied in with local communities (some of us just want to find a partner without having to become part of a community) and also explicitly works against being a dating site (thus why you can not profile search with any specificity). Other BDSM sites have less people, complicated, messy UIs, often require payment, and have more scammers than CM. I've found dozens of wonderful friends on CollarMe -- it takes patience but so does everything in life.

I think the move to CollarSpace is going to hurt CollarMe a lot. People who go to CollarMe and just see Tiffany's post will assume the site disappeared and is gone for good. Even if CollarMe.com does come back they might not check it ever again. Very few people will use Google Search to find the new site (as ResidentSadist suggested). A lot of people, myself included, found CollarMe from recommendations or links on other sites. All those links will still point to CollarMe.com and will now be dead. Some people will find the new site through CollarChat, but I'd say 85% of the site doesn't know about these message boards, especially younger people.

To salvage as much of the user base as possible, a few things need to be done:
-The messages about the URL change need to be more prominent. I'd suggest black text on a red background, in three spaces: the top of the page, below the search options, and in the message window. Instead of saying "if collarme becomes redirected" they should just say "collarme is moving to collarspace, please use that URL from now on."
-An e-mail should be sent out to every registered e-mail address about the change.
-The logo should be changed from CollarMe to CollarSpace.

The key here is to just make sure it looks like a run-of-the-mill administrative decision. If this site starts to get the vibe that it's on its last legs and could disappear for good any day, people will disappear in droves.

Tiffany presumably cares about the site and its users. But she also wants her story heard. That's fine. But she should put a link to CollarSpace at the bottom of her blog post so people don't get hurt because of her. Then she's still getting what she wants. Unless what she wants is to destroy the site, which won't work and is malevolent.

I've got opinions on the Tiffany-Eric feud but they're not relevant. We should be able to continue using the site without having to worry or know about what's going on behind the scenes.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 11:14:50 AM

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Also, something important, I know the owner (Eric) probably doesn't want to commit to the change yet because he is likely trying to recover CollarMe either from diplomacy with Tiffany or legal action. But if CollarMe disappears, even temporarily, every second it's down is users being permanently lost and its reputation -- I know there's a lot of snark about this but its reputation is at least better than "site that is going to disappear any day" -- being destroyed. I say he should commit, and then he has more freedom and an upper hand in any potential negotiations. If he does win CollarMe.com back, then he can just have CollarSpace redirect back there, change everything back, and send out a message along with putting a message on the website for a week or so explaining that CM is back and thanking everyone for their cooperation or whatever.

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RE: CollarMe has gone - 5/24/2014 11:41:13 AM

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But I don't care how much drama there is; it's my choice to get embroiled in it or not.

I share the same thoughts. I enjoy my time here. To remove myself from the site simply
because the owners are in disagreement won't help to solve their dispute.

When I want a good steak, I head to Ruth Chris Steak house. I may not like everything they
have on the menu, but I know I am going to enjoy my dining experience, regardless of what
may be taking place behind the scenes.

Bon Appetite!

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