RE: Bergdahl

Join Our Community

Collarchat.com

Home Login Search

RE: Bergdahl

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Bergdahl

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 4 5 next > >>

Login

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:17:31 PM

Posts: 724
Joined: 2/16/2014
Status: offline

@Musicmystery: as in WWII, for example? Lao Tzu said to see things as they are, not as one hopes them to be. Not very Taoist, IMO, to favor surrender and appeasement in the face of an enemy that seeks Total War to establish the next caliphate and in the meantime does minor things like global terrorism, and administering the death penalty for gays, adulterers, pregnant women. Don't forget about honor killings either. Particularly awesome demonstrations of their "morality."

(in reply to Musicmystery)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:18:44 PM

Posts: 19100
Joined: 3/25/2007
From: California, USA
Status: offline

Coming around to Bergdahl specifically, I'm curious to know his story. I hope he writes a book, rather than getting thrown into the 24/7 talking head meatgrinder of the cable news culture.

I think the immediate process will be a medical hold, and debriefing, then he gets handed 5 years of back pay +, and a nice long vacation.

_____________________________

If you lose one sense, your other senses are enhanced.
That's why people with no sense of humor have such an inflated sense of self-importance.

(in reply to TheHeretic)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:20:05 PM

Posts: 3897
Joined: 6/16/2004
Status: offline

Not at all. But-
They started this, as far as I'm concerned, but they have no definition of victory short of Eurabia and the destruction of the Great Satan.
Until that changes, yeah, I'm pretty much kill them all.
Makes me laugh to hear fucks like Powell talk about wars that cannot be won by military force.
Through bitter tears, perhaps, but laugh nonetheless.

_____________________________

1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

(in reply to Musicmystery)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:21:17 PM

Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: subrosaDom

@Musicmystery: as in WWII, for example? Lao Tzu said to see things as they are, not as one hopes them to be. Not very Taoist, IMO, to favor surrender and appeasement in the face of an enemy that seeks Total War to establish the next caliphate and in the meantime does minor things like global terrorism, and administering the death penalty for gays, adulterers, pregnant women. Don't forget about honor killings either. Particularly awesome demonstrations of their "morality."

What in the world are you talking about in that rambling knot of confusion?

(in reply to subrosaDom)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:21:54 PM

Posts: 3897
Joined: 6/16/2004
Status: offline

quote:

Lao Tzu said to see things as they are, not as one hopes them to be.

Islamapologists prefer the ostrich approach/position

_____________________________

1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

(in reply to subrosaDom)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:22:21 PM

Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Not at all. But-
They started this, as far as I'm concerned, but they have no definition of victory short of Eurabia and the destruction of the Great Satan.
Until that changes, yeah, I'm pretty much kill them all.
Makes me laugh to hear fucks like Powell talk about wars that cannot be won by military force.
Through bitter tears, perhaps, but laugh nonetheless.

Forgive me, but I have a lot more faith in Powell's military judgement and experience than yours.

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:23:10 PM

Posts: 3897
Joined: 6/16/2004
Status: offline

It was perfectly clear to me MM

_____________________________

1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

(in reply to Musicmystery)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:24:06 PM

Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Islamapologists

Not at all. That's just you being caught in a sweeping false claim in the OP and needing to make up the positions of anyone calling you on it.

In fact, I've already made it clear in my posts that I'm not necessarily in favor. But you see what you want to see.

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:24:33 PM

Posts: 3897
Joined: 6/16/2004
Status: offline

When your enemies are dead- when all your enemies are dead- the war is won, no?

_____________________________

1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

(in reply to Musicmystery)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:30:18 PM

Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

The argument against negotiating with terrorists is simple: Democracies must never give in to violence, and terrorists must never be rewarded for using it. Negotiations give legitimacy to terrorists and their methods and undermine actors who have pursued political change through peaceful means. Talks can destabilize the negotiating governments' political systems, undercut international efforts to outlaw terrorism, and set a dangerous precedent.

Yet in practice, democratic governments often negotiate with terrorists.
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/62276/peter-r-neumann/negotiating-with-terrorists

It seems that george and parliment said the same shit about the founders and they wound up negotiating with terrorist.

(in reply to Musicmystery)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:32:24 PM

Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

Not at all. But-
They started this, as far as I'm concerned, but they have no definition of victory short of Eurabia and the destruction of the Great Satan.
Until that changes, yeah, I'm pretty much kill them all.
Makes me laugh to hear fucks like Powell talk about wars that cannot be won by military force.
Through bitter tears, perhaps, but laugh nonetheless.

Spoken like another chairborn ranger who has yet to attend his first bar-b-q

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:34:05 PM

Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline

ORIGINAL: truckinslave
Islamapologists prefer the ostrich approach/position

What sort of a childish moron actually believes that the ostrich actually puts it'shead in the sand.

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:34:55 PM

Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

When your enemies are dead- when all your enemies are dead- the war is won, no?

It's a little harder than that when we're not in the movies.

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:35:43 PM

Posts: 23322
Joined: 10/1/2006
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave

When your enemies are dead- when all your enemies are dead- the war is won, no?

For the morons who have yet to read a history book written for someone beyond the fifth grade, the answer is no.

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:48:23 PM

Posts: 3897
Joined: 6/16/2004
Status: offline

Well, no; it's not harder than that.

But no one said killing your enemies was easy....

Yet, there they are, openly announcing their intentions and making progress every day.
And here we are, most of us just dismissing the very concept of religious war.....

_____________________________

1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

(in reply to Musicmystery)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 12:53:37 PM

Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline

Nonsense. You're caught up in your head again, making up the world around you.

Quite the contrary -- the neo-cons are all about religious war.

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 1:19:24 PM

Posts: 3897
Joined: 6/16/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Nonsense. You're caught up in your head again, making up the world around you.

Quite the contrary -- the neo-cons are all about religious war.

Really.
Provide two or three quotations, please....
I can think of only one, and it's pretty funny. I was afraid she would get decapitated for it....

_____________________________

1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

(in reply to Musicmystery)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 1:36:58 PM

Posts: 30259
Joined: 3/14/2005
Status: offline

Are you *sure* you live in the U.S.?

You seem pretty ignorant about what goes on here.

http://www.politicususa.com/2012/09/18/wing-christian-religous-leaders-dream-holy-war-islam.html
http://www.publiceye.org/eyes/sd_theo.html
http://www.againstbombing.com/ArmageddonUpdates.htm
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/02/evangelical-christians-want-to-start-wwiii-to-speed-the-second-coming-and-atheist-neocons-are-using-religion-to-rile-them-up-to-justify-war-against-iran.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/zions-christian-soldiers/
http://books.google.com/books/about/Holy_War.html?id=R6pgCWiDZ-4C
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/22336-genghis-christ-general-boykin-and-the-fundamentalist-christian-holy-war
http://iraqwar.org/fundamentalists.htm
http://www.theocracywatch.org/

< Message edited by Musicmystery -- 6/1/2014 1:48:21 PM >

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 1:51:32 PM

Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline

In that case I am glad it was Obama making the decision and not you.

and this....

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

You're an idiot, Truckinslave.

I was glad to see our soldier is free, and on his way home, even if we did have to make a shitty deal to get him out.

_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert

This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi

(in reply to truckinslave)

RE: Bergdahl - 6/1/2014 2:14:31 PM

Posts: 3897
Joined: 6/16/2004
Status: offline

I thought we were trying to have a substantial discussion.
My bad.

Your first link- as only one example- contains the following:

"There is a concerted effort by Bush neo-conservatives serving as Willard Romney’s foreign policy advisors to entice Israel to strike Iran to begin what one Romney advisor calls “a very substantial war,” and their goal is not to stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, but to begin a Holy War between Christianity and Islam."

Not one word of substantiation- there or pretty much anywhere- just accusations followed by delusions followed by lunacies followed by rantings.

There are plenty of Christians who believe Armageddon will be Islam vs Christians; but there is no one in power on the non-Muslim side who is trying to hasten it.

_____________________________

1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

(in reply to Musicmystery)

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 4 5 next > >>

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: Bergdahl

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 4 5 next > >>

Jump to:

New Messages	No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages	Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages	Locked w/o New Messages

Post New Thread

Reply to Message

Post New Poll

Submit Vote

Delete My Own Post

Delete My Own Thread

Rate Posts

Collarchat.com © 2024

Terms of Service

0.099