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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 6:18:37 AM

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Apparently, this 'liberal' is ignorant regarding songs about Arizona. The only fact we have actually established regarding 'liberal' ignorance.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:22:17 AM

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Well, Skex, I'll welcome you to our little basement corner of the internet, and suggest that maybe telling us conservatives what we think, and what our positions are might not be the way you want to get started.

But it is clearly the way you start. Kinda like the title of this thread. You have no clue what liberals/leftist/demopubs want but you have no problem making up your laundry list of shit to bitch about.

The classical liberalism you describe as "believing we can make the world a better place," ain't the property of the left.

It really has to do with who you wish to make the world a better place for?

As a conservative, I certainly believe we can make the world a better place.

For whom and how?

I also believe that government programs are the tool of last resort, not the default answer to every fucking little thing that comes along.

Outlawing slavery is hardly a small thing. The franchise for women is not a small thing. Ensuring an education for all is hardly a small thing. Ensuring equal rights for all is hardly a small thing.
So what exactly is it that you think the govt should not do that it is curently doing?

If you'll be bringing interesting thoughts (or a great sense of humor) to the conversation, I'll be looking forward to what you have to say.

ROFLMFAO what a fucking lie.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:28:23 AM

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Conservatives were for slavery? Where the hell are you getting your "facts" from?

History books written for those beyond the fifth grade are usually a pretty good start.

Here's a little history lesson, verbatim from my friend's blog:

What exactly qualifies a fucking blog as a history lesson?

Prompted by yet another “Republicans hate minorities” Twitter argument.

A little history lesson for the liberals in the audience: the first African-American US Senator and the first SIX African-American US Representatives were members of the Republican Party.

Perhaps you might tell us of the demopubs from the south who were elected to the congerss durring reconstruction.

Senator Hiram Rhodes Revels from Mississippi
Representative Benjamin Sterling Turner from Alabama
Representative Josiah Thomas Walls from Florida
Representative Jefferson Franklin Long from Georgia
Representative Joseph Hayne Rainey from South Carolina
Representative Robert Brown Elliott from South Carolina
Representative Robert Carlos De Large from South Carolina

Side note: the Currier & Yves drawing captions Jefferson Franklin Long as “Jefferson H. Long” (F becomes H), and Joseph Hayne Rainey as “Joseph H. Rainy” (missing the “e”).
So there’s some disagreement between spelling versions on Wikipedia & the original.

Oh my wiki is your source...well that does explane a lot of your ignorance.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:34:58 AM

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1.) The majority of Republicans are conservatives.

I disagree.

The majority of Republicans talk the talk of Conservatism. The majority of Republicans do not walk the walk of Conservatism, though.

Would you have any validation for this ignorant unsubstantiated opinon?

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:36:50 AM

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That's self-contradictory. It is especially the most entitled who want they damn check on time, Subrosadom.

You could be right ???Adm ,cargill,turner,gates et all would get highly pissed if their welfare cheque quit showing up on time.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:43:02 AM

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1.) The majority of Republicans are conservatives.

2.) The Congressional Record doesn't keep track of liberal vs conservative. I'm going with the available facts, not wishful thinking.

Actually you seem to be going with half truths and whole lies

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:44:02 AM

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How did this country survive the collapse of major corporations before?

To paraphrase robin williams's adrian cronouer "never have I seen a white man more in need of a history book than you."

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:48:53 AM

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Because it has to be done? Our military is too big.

BS
It is smaller than it was in 1940
But of course any American military is too much.

Get a phoquing history book. Get a phoquing clue. Do you stay up late at night trying to think up stupid things to say?

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:50:24 AM

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But, hey, let's continue supporting failures. After all, that's the entire principle of the modern Leftists: punish productivity, and support malfeasance.

Would you have any validation for this moronic unsubstantiated ignorant opinion?

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:51:41 AM

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Apparently, this 'liberal' is ignorant regarding songs about Arizona. The only fact we have actually established regarding 'liberal' ignorance.

Well, there's nothing to sing about in Arizona these days with the reactionary government in place.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 9:59:16 AM

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When the current round of cuts is completed the army will be smaller than it was then.

Would you have any validation for this ignorant unsubstantiated opinion?

We are gutting our military as threats increase.

Who the phoque poses a creditabel threat to the u.s.?

If you don't think ISIS is a problem you have one.

Isis is not my problem. I dont live there and neither do you. So just how is isis a problem?

N Korea is getting more aggressive.

Towards whom? The other half of their country?

Disarming in the face of this is foolhardy.

So says someone who has no clue what they are talking about.

Our aircraft are aging an not being replaced.

Just who on the panet has a newer airfleet?

You have demonstrated repeatedly that you have no concept of geopolitics or deterrence.

You have demonstrated that chairborn rangers are quick to spend other peoples money and shed the blood of other people's progeny.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 10:06:29 AM

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I never said that a long range bombers would stop ISIS, but something like 90% of our air power is base on 40 year old designs.

ROFLMFAO....yup they gots wings and motors and flaps and ailerons no fucking shit. You wouldn't have a point to this moronic opinion would you?

A couple of months ago, for example, there was a move to eliminate the A10 because it is so old, but there was no replacement even in the works.

Cite please. You have a history of posting disingenuous bullshit most of the time.

Fanatics like ISIS don't care about things like poverty.

Perhaps you could let us in on just what their platform is? I mean they have pretty much plastered the net with thier opinions so it would be kewel if you would let us in on their secret plans you have discovered

It would be nice to know how you bring people out of poverty who will shoot you on sight.

Perhaps getting our military out of their country? Perhaps not trying to kill them both physically and economically? Just a guess ...but what we have been doing does not seem to be working.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 10:09:41 AM

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Well, there's nothing to sing about in Arizona these days with the reactionary government in place.

They have pretty low drivers license and vehicle registration fees.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 10:13:59 AM

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Thompsonx, your rate of fire is on par with a Tommy Gun, and you are almost as accurate.

Leftists aren't just ignorant, that would be forgivable, given the propaganda they've been bombarded with since birth. It could also be fixed. The real issue is that they are a bunch of egomaniacal megalomaniacs. I guarantee you not one of these gun-phobic fucktards actually has the balls to volunteer for confiscation operations. Shit, most of them don't have balls at all. You half-witted social justice warriors are only going to succeed in starting a civil war. That doesn't end well for anybody, least of all you. Remember, even when an ostrich sticks it's head in the sand, the rest of us can still see it's ass...

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 10:21:48 AM

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Thompsonx, your rate of fire is on par with a Tommy Gun, and you are almost as accurate.

Leftists aren't just ignorant, that would be forgivable, given the propaganda they've been bombarded with since birth. It could also be fixed. The real issue is that they are a bunch of egomaniacal megalomaniacs. I guarantee you not one of these gun-phobic fucktards actually has the balls to volunteer for confiscation operations. Shit, most of them don't have balls at all. You half-witted social justice warriors are only going to succeed in starting a civil war. That doesn't end well for anybody, least of all you. Remember, even when an ostrich sticks it's head in the sand, the rest of us can still see it's ass...

Are you attempting to provide us with the exception that somehow proves the rule?

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 10:24:08 AM

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Well, there's nothing to sing about in Arizona these days with the reactionary government in place.

They have pretty low drivers license and vehicle registration fees.

Probably what the immigrants are after.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 10:38:06 AM

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Apparently, this 'liberal' is ignorant regarding songs about Arizona. The only fact we have actually established regarding 'liberal' ignorance.

Well, there's nothing to sing about in Arizona these days with the reactionary government in place.

Well, the governorship is up for grabs at this point, although the candidates I've seen thus far seem to focus more on border issues than anything related to state government. The Democrats may be able to pull this off, if they can stay somewhat unified behind their candidate. The legislature is another matter.

We can still sing, though they may be sad songs.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 11:05:05 AM

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Thompsonx, your rate of fire is on par with a Tommy Gun, and you are almost as accurate.

Your ignorance of the 1928 is manifest.
Actually it has two rates of fire, semi auto and 700 rpm (1000 rpm on the 1921 model).
With its 16" barrel it imparts phenominal accuracy to the pistol cartridge.45acp. The cuts compensator at the end of the barrel reduces the tendency of the weapon to climb in full auto.

Leftists aren't just ignorant, that would be forgivable, given the propaganda they've been bombarded with since birth. It could also be fixed. The real issue is that they are a bunch of egomaniacal megalomaniacs.

This would clearly be your ignorant unsubstantiated opinion .

I guarantee you not one of these gun-phobic fucktards actually has the balls to volunteer for confiscation operations.

Just as you would not volunteer to lead the assault on fortified hostage situation...that is the job of the cops.

Shit, most of them don't have balls at all.

I find it interesting that you have spent any time looking at the pink parts of someone you won't even talk to.

You half-witted social justice warriors are only going to succeed in starting a civil war.

Besides equal rights what other social justice programs do you oppose?

That doesn't end well for anybody, least of all you.

Oh my we have a fortune teller amongst us.

Remember, even when an ostrich sticks it's head in the sand, the rest of us can still see it's ass...

You seem to know less about ratites than you do about guns or my country...they do not stick their heads in the sand.
What appears to be your major malfunction is, like a broken gun you have a habit of going off "half cocked".
Perhaps if you were to spend as much time researching your topic as you do in posting your ignorance you might not look the fool.

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 11:08:15 AM

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Well, there's nothing to sing about in Arizona these days with the reactionary government in place.

They have pretty low drivers license and vehicle registration fees.

Probably what the immigrants are after.

It is certainly what I am after

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RE: The ignorance of liberals - 7/18/2014 11:46:06 AM

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Funny thing there, Mari. I'll stipulate that there aren't a whole lot of conservatives who have quite the lefty background and upbringing that I do, but I'm going to say that as a general rule, a garden variety conservative is going to have a better understanding of liberal thought than your garden variety liberal has of what conservatives believe. Liberalism is the dominant paradigm of the entertainment industry, mainstream media, and academia. It's mighty hard to avoid getting the gist of it.

Well Rich,
I think you have a bit of a point here.
On the other hand how many people, listen at length to ideologies that are different than their own?
Though liberalism is the dominant paradigm these days, there are a fair amount of moderates and there are people who listen to both sides.

I am among those that are liberal/moderates, who do listen to what conservatives/republicans have to say.

Rich, the thing is---- when I tune in to "the other side", I normally don't hear any REAL or viable long term strategies or solutions.
Lately, I hear more blaming, blasting, and condemning coming from the conservatives/republican/those on the right, than anything else.

Marini this is my feeling exactly. In fact, I agree with everything you have said in this 30 pg argument. I like to think of myself as someone who looks at both sides and weighs, calculates in my own mind, the possible consequence of things. I've also come to think that Liberals and Conservatives are only politically correct labels for democratics and republicans. And when it comes to the politicians, I think they're both screwing us. I think they are both lining their pockets with lobbyist money, Koch money and Soros money, and working for those people. Not the American people. But, for that matter, the American people are no longer voting for their candidates. I firmly believe their positions are bought by said above. (Possibly with the exception of the last election, in which it was widely expected for a republican to win, and the disappointment is still obvious).

It makes debating politics not fun anymore. Not when the result of the debate is for the common cause of both sides.

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