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BamaD -> Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 6:15:54 PM)
Can you imagine, a doctor was irresponsible enough to have a firearm at work when Richard Plotts decided to shoot the place up. Contrary to everything I have been told, the doctor didn't shoot a bunch of innocent bystanders and the cops didn't gun him down in a heartbeat. philadelphia.cbslocal.com

BamaD -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 6:20:34 PM)
Of course this doesn't count as stopping a mass shooting because he shot Plotts before the body count piled up.

Musicmystery -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 6:56:22 PM)
You've got a gun barrel up your butt.

TheHeretic -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 7:32:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery You've got a gun barrel up your butt. Then you must be looking at the world through a porthole in your belly button, Muse. I'll give you partial credit though, for having the balls to enter the thread. I doubt many of the usual other gun control hacks will.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 7:47:42 PM)
I watched the archived version of the live 1800 update (It was the second photo in the banner, when I saw it) on the website. Two things stuck out for me: The prosecutor (who was giving the press conference) said "The perpetrator is a *psychiatric patient* who ..." and one of the Pablum©-puking press asked: "Was the doctor afraid of Plotts? Is that why he armed himself?" What a fucking turd. Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me? ETC Douche-bag's last name

ForTotalSlave -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 7:51:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Of course this doesn't count as stopping a mass shooting because he shot Plotts before the body count piled up. Very good point.

subrosaDom -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 7:54:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery You've got a gun barrel up your butt. That makes for the safest damned butt in the world.

subrosaDom -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 7:55:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Can you imagine, a doctor was irresponsible enough to have a firearm at work when Richard Plotts decided to shoot the place up. Contrary to everything I have been told, the doctor didn't shoot a bunch of innocent bystanders and the cops didn't gun him down in a heartbeat. philadelphia.cbslocal.com In fact, all mass shootings have been in gun-free zones. This is for two reasons: if you were going to go on a homicidal rage, where would you pick -- the local gun range or the local gun-free school? -- or maybe Chipotle? And second, just as BamaD said, when you are stupid enough to go on a homicidal rage, one of us legally armed citizens is likely to shoot you down before the body count reaches mass murder levels. The gun control argument is akin to harvesting honey from a hive -- naked.

BamaD -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 8:11:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr I watched the archived version of the live 1800 update (It was the second photo in the banner, when I saw it) on the website. Two things stuck out for me: The prosecutor (who was giving the press conference) said "The perpetrator is a *psychiatric patient* who ..." and one of the Pablum©-puking press asked: "Was the doctor afraid of Plotts? Is that why he armed himself?" What a fucking turd. Screen captures *still* RULE! Ya feel me? ETC Douche-bag's last name I would be more concerned with how Plott got a gun. More evidence that these shootings are a mental health problem.

BamaD -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 8:13:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD Can you imagine, a doctor was irresponsible enough to have a firearm at work when Richard Plotts decided to shoot the place up. Contrary to everything I have been told, the doctor didn't shoot a bunch of innocent bystanders and the cops didn't gun him down in a heartbeat. philadelphia.cbslocal.com In fact, all mass shootings have been in gun-free zones. This is for two reasons: if you were going to go on a homicidal rage, where would you pick -- the local gun range or the local gun-free school? -- or maybe Chipotle? And second, just as BamaD said, when you are stupid enough to go on a homicidal rage, one of us legally armed citizens is likely to shoot you down before the body count reaches mass murder levels. The gun control argument is akin to harvesting honey from a hive -- naked. How many gun control articles of faith did this violate?

DomKen -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 8:28:16 PM)
How soon the gun nuts forget. http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-las-vegas-cops-killed-in-ambush-20140608-story.html Seems sometimes the armed civilian does not stop these sorts of things.

BamaD -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 8:39:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen How soon the gun nuts forget. http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-las-vegas-cops-killed-in-ambush-20140608-story.html Seems sometimes the armed civilian does not stop these sorts of things. We all remember that, it was unfortunate. But your argument implies that what may have been one extra dead in Las Vegas means that we should have allowed God knows how many extra in PA. A We don't know what the body count would have been in Las Vegas without the unfortunate outcome of intervention. B We do know that Plott wasn't done shooting we he was shot. C Remember telling me then how 1 Tell citizen would shoot innocent bystanders because he couldn't Tell the shooter from the people fleeing from him, besides gun owners are such bad shots they would hit the wrong people? 2 The cops would shoot the citizen in a heartbeat? didn't happen did it. NOBODY said an armed citizen would always stop the bad guy but the whole anti gun crowd assured us he never would.

TheHeretic -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 8:46:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen How soon the gun nuts forget. http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-las-vegas-cops-killed-in-ambush-20140608-story.html Seems sometimes the armed civilian does not stop these sorts of things. While the gundiots live in their own little world of denial. Gunfights are dangerous things to get into, but sometimes the civilian with a gun never needs to fire a shot. http://www.kgw.com/news/Clackamas-man-armed-confronts-mall-shooter-183593571.html

servantforuse -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 9:00:48 PM)
I'm wondering if that hospital had a sign on the door saying that it was a gun free zone ? Why would anyone bring a gun into a building with a sign saying guns are prohibited ?

DomKen -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/24/2014 9:55:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen How soon the gun nuts forget. http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-las-vegas-cops-killed-in-ambush-20140608-story.html Seems sometimes the armed civilian does not stop these sorts of things. We all remember that, it was unfortunate. But your argument implies that what may have been one extra dead in Las Vegas means that we should have allowed God knows how many extra in PA. A We don't know what the body count would have been in Las Vegas without the unfortunate outcome of intervention. B We do know that Plott wasn't done shooting we he was shot. C Remember telling me then how 1 Tell citizen would shoot innocent bystanders because he couldn't Tell the shooter from the people fleeing from him, besides gun owners are such bad shots they would hit the wrong people? 2 The cops would shoot the citizen in a heartbeat? didn't happen did it. NOBODY said an armed citizen would always stop the bad guy but the whole anti gun crowd assured us he never would. No one said 100% anything liar. As always you are full of shit. But the fact is you presented a case where a guy stopped a shooting and I presented a case where a guy failed. That pretty much ends the debate. The fact of the matter is a civilian having or not having a gun doesn't seem to materially affect the outcome of these events.

BamaD -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/25/2014 12:29:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD quote: ORIGINAL: DomKen How soon the gun nuts forget. http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-las-vegas-cops-killed-in-ambush-20140608-story.html Seems sometimes the armed civilian does not stop these sorts of things. We all remember that, it was unfortunate. But your argument implies that what may have been one extra dead in Las Vegas means that we should have allowed God knows how many extra in PA. A We don't know what the body count would have been in Las Vegas without the unfortunate outcome of intervention. B We do know that Plott wasn't done shooting we he was shot. C Remember telling me then how 1 Tell citizen would shoot innocent bystanders because he couldn't Tell the shooter from the people fleeing from him, besides gun owners are such bad shots they would hit the wrong people? 2 The cops would shoot the citizen in a heartbeat? didn't happen did it. NOBODY said an armed citizen would always stop the bad guy but the whole anti gun crowd assured us he never would. No one said 100% anything liar. As always you are full of shit. But the fact is you presented a case where a guy stopped a shooting and I presented a case where a guy failed. That pretty much ends the debate. The fact of the matter is a civilian having or not having a gun doesn't seem to materially affect the outcome of these events. The fact is that the antigun people always assure us that the armed citizen will increase casualties period neither you or any other gun grabber used anything like sometimes. You may not have used the phrase 100% but you did your best to create that impression. You also flat out stated that the cops would shoot the citizen "in a heartbeat". You have one were the citizen most likely didn't save lives, and I have one where they clearly did and TheHeretic provided one were they did. That means one third as many as there would be without armed citizens so thank you for helping to prove my point. PS Everyone knows that you break out the liar word when you know you have lost.

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/25/2014 1:12:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The fact is that the antigun people always assure us that the armed citizen will increase casualties period,,, <snip> That's not quite right. What us anti-gun people say is... if the populace didn't have guns in the first place, these gun situations just wouldn't arise to be debated. Ergo, the argument about a citizen being armed or not is moot and irrelevant.

subrosaDom -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/25/2014 1:24:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The fact is that the antigun people always assure us that the armed citizen will increase casualties period,,, <snip> That's not quite right. What us anti-gun people say is... if the populace didn't have guns in the first place, these gun situations just wouldn't arise to be debated. Ergo, the argument about a citizen being armed or not is moot and irrelevant. That's in fact correct. Instead, britvas, baseball bats (don't know that Burgess had a word for them), bit of the 'ole ultra violence would be used to dispense with the unarmed, defenseless innocents.

eulero83 -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/25/2014 2:10:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrosaDom quote: ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1 quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD The fact is that the antigun people always assure us that the armed citizen will increase casualties period,,, <snip> That's not quite right. What us anti-gun people say is... if the populace didn't have guns in the first place, these gun situations just wouldn't arise to be debated. Ergo, the argument about a citizen being armed or not is moot and irrelevant. That's in fact correct. Instead, britvas, baseball bats (don't know that Burgess had a word for them), bit of the 'ole ultra violence would be used to dispense with the unarmed, defenseless innocents. can you at least admit it takes more effort to kill someone with a baseball bat than with a gun and it's not the same thing?

Politesub53 -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/25/2014 2:17:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery You've got a gun barrel up your butt. Then you must be looking at the world through a porthole in your belly button, Muse. I'll give you partial credit though, for having the balls to enter the thread. I doubt many of the usual other gun control hacks will. Thread ?......... No Rich, it is just the usual trolling that you enjoy so much.

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