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BamaD -> RE: Doctor shoots man at hospital (7/25/2014 5:24:33 PM)
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I see that point, I don't agree with simplifying things so much, but I understant it, you'd say more or less that in a room with many people it's safer if there are many guns instead of one single gun, becuse if you don't have the only one gun you'd be in danger in case the bad guy has it. My point is from another prospective every crazy person seems cool untill he deosn't snap so if there are many guns around every loonatic will become lethal as soon as he geos postal.
The baseball bat is something that (outside a baseball field) needs some degree of premeditation, I don't know many people that walk around with baseball bats or even knives "just in case", a handgun for people with a carry permit is usually always there, ready on your side. If you read the document I linked in post #24 it's clear law abaiding citizens in the us are more lethal than criminals, so if only police and and criminals had a gun than you'd be at least two times safer.
I honestly do not live my life contemplating the possibility I cuold be killed, nor my friends or relatives do, and even if kiatra implyed he'd be happy if I was brutally murdered so he could say "told you so" I still think it's a very remote possibility and I don't need a gun like I don't need an elmet to walk around.
I'm sorry but you actually missed the point.
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The baseball bat is something that (outside a baseball field) needs some degree of premeditation.
You're joking. Right? Carrying an illegal gun requires no premeditation? Please tell me you're kidding?
Eliminate guns. Get rid of every single one and people will start arming themselves with baseball bats, and knives, and screw drivers, and saws, and hammers, and rocks and ... all of which require "premeditation".
A police officer, before they enter the academy, has "meditated" as to whether or not they'd be willing to carry a gun/take a life.
That's the point. Criminals ... people who don't give a fiddler's fuck about human life will continue to kill others by any means possible.
Drug addicts use drugs. Cat burglars rob people. Killers will kill. It's that simple.
I am allowed to carry a weapon anytime I want. I haven't carried one in over a decade. So, I don't "walk around, afraid that I'm going to be killed". It's a personal choice I've made but I am very glad that I have friends that are always armed (Pennsyltucky is an "open carry" commonwealth).
Screen captures still RULE! Ya feel me?
I can't understand, and I'm genuine asking this, how can someone in the usa carry an illegal gun? if someone has criminal records than it's illegal? For what I understood you just go to the sheriff office and he has to issue a permit and than you go in a shop, or even to a private person, and buy one. And by the way... you always talk about this "illegal guns", but can you give any proof all those homicides not connected to crimes involved illegal guns?
That if you take away guns people will arm themself with something else is a fear not a fact, I do not see anyone armed with bats or knives here around, nor in any other country I visited.
If a person has been convicted of a felony they cannot legally own a gun.
If the gun is stolen it is not a legal gun.
There are more people murdered with blunt objects (like baseball bats) than with all types of long guns put together (hunting rifles, shotguns, and guns that look like assault weapons).
knives are at least as concealable as firearms so you wouldn't see them unless they were used on you.
Come on BamaD, that's being intellectually dishonest. 'blunt objects' kill more people than firearms? If that was true, US Military Soldiers in all four branches would be armed with the 'latest and greatest' in 'Bat Technology'. When I do a search for 'US soldiers' and look at images, they seem to be armed with...FIREARMS. Likewise, US law enforcement seems to be armed with....FIREARMS. Also, those advocating a much more 'lenient definition' of the 2nd amendment (i.e. Gun Nuts) seem to be armed with...FIREARMS. If 'blunt objects' were so menacing, care to explain to me why each of these groups, including criminals, desire firearms over baseball bats?
Yes, 'blunt objects' are much easier to come by than firearms. Yet, if given a choice between an M-4 or a four pound rock to deal with someone that's about to attack/kill you; which do you take? And if you had to injure/kill someone, which of those would you take?
Can we minus the bullshit out of this thread? Pretty please with sugar on top?
Read it again , not only did I specifically say LONG GUNS but for those who didn't know what that meant I stated that it meant rifles, shotguns, and guns that look like assault weapons. Your claim that I said all firearms discredits anything else you said.
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