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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 12:14:29 PM

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Well, I'm curious...

Me too, so I'll repeat the question...

In the context of a 69% black majority, what do you mean by "gain political power"? Do you object to non-whites electing a white mayor and council?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 12:29:44 PM

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How would such a objection be devised? Does the city of Richville electing a mayor imbue me, or my kith, kine, and kin with political power?

I look at our federal legislature, our state legislature, our government in any nook and cranny, and ask, can you point me to political power? We elected a White President and elected a Black President, and I see no artifacts of political power accruing to Mr. Melby.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 12:32:24 PM

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Well, I'm curious to hear your reasons for the riot. If everything were honky-dory in Ferguson, there wouldn't have been a riot.

A minority white police force cannot oppress a majority black population without creating racial tension.

So a minority black police force can oppress a majority white population without creating racial tension. I only ask because if that were not the case you would have had no need to point out that it is a problem when the police are mostly white. Not even sure that is true, I doubt it.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 12:34:03 PM

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No, no such thing was said or contemplated. You are epically failing in your logic and your arguments.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 2:18:48 PM

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Compare the police response in Ferguson to that in Bunkerville. Funny how if its a bunch of black guys breaking some laws they get the full police state treatment but when it is a bunch of white guys breaking the law they get kid gloves.

and that makes rioting ok?

Does what happened Sunday night make the police response since ok?

Since we don't have all the facts yet, nobody knows.

How do you think all the facts aren't in on the gross over reaction by the police since Sunday? I'm not talking about the shooting on Saturday at all.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 2:21:32 PM

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Now I would have expected the rightist mouth breathers to be hailing the rioters as the new minute men, very proof that the 2nd amendment is essential.

Oh but no. .. I am guessing the right to rise up against armed state oppression only applies to a certain type of person.

So what is it about these people that makes them the wrong type?

They are not rising up against "armed state oppression" they are burning their neighbors businesses. They are not opposing a political system they are flying off the handle before they have all the facts. They don't even know if the officer will be prosecuted.

It was ok when it was a white deadbeat and his white militia buddies were threatening to kill federal LEO's but now that it is people of color demonstrating and doing some property crimes you are fine with a massive police crackdown. Hypocrite much?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 2:43:18 PM

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Compare the police response in Ferguson to that in Bunkerville. Funny how if its a bunch of black guys breaking some laws they get the full police state treatment but when it is a bunch of white guys breaking the law they get kid gloves.

and that makes rioting ok?

Does what happened Sunday night make the police response since ok?

Since we don't have all the facts yet, nobody knows.

How do you think all the facts aren't in on the gross over reaction by the police since Sunday? I'm not talking about the shooting on Saturday at all.

Other than crucifying the officer in the town square for being accused what do you think they should have done.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 2:45:34 PM

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Now I would have expected the rightist mouth breathers to be hailing the rioters as the new minute men, very proof that the 2nd amendment is essential.

Oh but no. .. I am guessing the right to rise up against armed state oppression only applies to a certain type of person.

So what is it about these people that makes them the wrong type?

They are not rising up against "armed state oppression" they are burning their neighbors businesses. They are not opposing a political system they are flying off the handle before they have all the facts. They don't even know if the officer will be prosecuted.

It was ok when it was a white deadbeat and his white militia buddies were threatening to kill federal LEO's but now that it is people of color demonstrating and doing some property crimes you are fine with a massive police crackdown. Hypocrite much?

Lets see, the people who where making threats were run off by the other protesters on one hand, and all they did was talk.
On the other hand they are burning down buildings and looting and in one reported case shooting at the police, different much?

So talk by a white man is as bad as arson by a black one.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 2:48:22 PM

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nobody was murdered for being a long term deadbeat. And they weren't r-u-n-n-o-f-t. Quit taking fucking stupid pills, you are idiot enough without them.

How you doing on the credible citations of the fleeing of Alabama?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 2:56:54 PM

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Compare the police response in Ferguson to that in Bunkerville. Funny how if its a bunch of black guys breaking some laws they get the full police state treatment but when it is a bunch of white guys breaking the law they get kid gloves.

and that makes rioting ok?

Does what happened Sunday night make the police response since ok?

Since we don't have all the facts yet, nobody knows.

How do you think all the facts aren't in on the gross over reaction by the police since Sunday? I'm not talking about the shooting on Saturday at all.

Other than crucifying the officer in the town square for being accused what do you think they should have done.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 3:00:51 PM

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Now I would have expected the rightist mouth breathers to be hailing the rioters as the new minute men, very proof that the 2nd amendment is essential.

Oh but no. .. I am guessing the right to rise up against armed state oppression only applies to a certain type of person.

So what is it about these people that makes them the wrong type?

They are not rising up against "armed state oppression" they are burning their neighbors businesses. They are not opposing a political system they are flying off the handle before they have all the facts. They don't even know if the officer will be prosecuted.

It was ok when it was a white deadbeat and his white militia buddies were threatening to kill federal LEO's but now that it is people of color demonstrating and doing some property crimes you are fine with a massive police crackdown. Hypocrite much?

Lets see, the people who where making threats were run off by the other protesters on one hand, and all they did was talk.
On the other hand they are burning down buildings and looting and in one reported case shooting at the police, different much?

So talk by a white man is as bad as arson by a black one.

No body was run off. The militia guys who made threats were still there making threats for weeks after still making threats. And yes threats of murder against an LEO by armed nuts are every bit as serious as arson of an empty insured business. One is aggravated assault with a deadly weapon against an LEO and the other is simple arson. Look up the penalty for each assault has the much harsher penalty.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 3:03:34 PM

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Not attacking the peaceful protesters? Not arrest the reporters in the McDonald's? Not tear gas people in their home's? How about not aiming loaded weapons at peaceful protesters during daylight demonstrations?

Can you get this through your head, I'm talking about the police reaction to the demonstrations since Sunday only.

What you described only happened in your imagination. Since when is arson "peaceful protest" Remember you want us to put all responsibility for our protection in the hands of the police, if they are one forth as bad as you claim only a fool would do that.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 3:08:08 PM

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Fr,
Situations like this are exactly why cops should not be such dickheads when people record videos of them, it might save their butts one day.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 3:09:52 PM

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Not attacking the peaceful protesters? Not arrest the reporters in the McDonald's? Not tear gas people in their home's? How about not aiming loaded weapons at peaceful protesters during daylight demonstrations?

Can you get this through your head, I'm talking about the police reaction to the demonstrations since Sunday only.

What you described only happened in your imagination. Since when is arson "peaceful protest" Remember you want us to put all responsibility for our protection in the hands of the police, if they are one forth as bad as you claim only a fool would do that.

Actually everything I posted happened in the last 24 hours. Get your head out of your ass.
And again the arson happened on Sunday. So again, all the demonstrations since have been peaceful.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 3:21:02 PM

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Not attacking the peaceful protesters? Not arrest the reporters in the McDonald's? Not tear gas people in their home's? How about not aiming loaded weapons at peaceful protesters during daylight demonstrations?

Can you get this through your head, I'm talking about the police reaction to the demonstrations since Sunday only.

What you described only happened in your imagination. Since when is arson "peaceful protest" Remember you want us to put all responsibility for our protection in the hands of the police, if they are one forth as bad as you claim only a fool would do that.

Actually everything I posted happened in the last 24 hours. Get your head out of your ass.
And again the arson happened on Sunday. So again, all the demonstrations since have been peaceful.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 3:48:38 PM

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Now I would have expected the rightist mouth breathers to be hailing the rioters as the new minute men, very proof that the 2nd amendment is essential.

Which really just says everything about your ignorance about those on the right.

Interesting. Over here in the UK, the right wing instinct would be to side with the authorities come what may. On the other hand, right wingers in the USA have always proclaimed themselves to be vigorously *against* a tyrannical government. The 2nd Amendment, for instance, breathes of just this belief. However, I'm intrigued to see how the anti-authoritarian mindset of the US's right wing is so different to that of the European right wing.

Re that last - I hope the NRA hasn't been too loud and aggressive in its support of the rioters, here. I wouldn't see that as helpful to the situation. Has Mr La Pierre managed to suppress his usual support of the masses against government forces on this occasion?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 3:49:09 PM

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Not attacking the peaceful protesters? Not arrest the reporters in the McDonald's? Not tear gas people in their home's? How about not aiming loaded weapons at peaceful protesters during daylight demonstrations?

Can you get this through your head, I'm talking about the police reaction to the demonstrations since Sunday only.

What you described only happened in your imagination. Since when is arson "peaceful protest" Remember you want us to put all responsibility for our protection in the hands of the police, if they are one forth as bad as you claim only a fool would do that.

Actually everything I posted happened in the last 24 hours. Get your head out of your ass.
And again the arson happened on Sunday. So again, all the demonstrations since have been peaceful.

If it has been so peaceful since Sunday why are 5 different news services carrying the story that today Obama called for the rioting to stop?
If Obama says they are still rioting it must be true, right?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 4:02:11 PM

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I agree with you Peon... but the shooting of this child is not the reason for looting... it is an excuse to steal. There are honest sincere people demanding answers and by God they will get them.... But there is NO excuse for destroying your own peoples economy.

You and Cloud are the ones that can't seem to separate looting from legitimate protesting. One is criminal with no excuse...and the other is the right way to address grievances.

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Seems to me the local police cant seperate looters from peaceful protesters. Did you not see the clip where they went for a camera crew, or arrested two journalists in Macdonalds ?

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 4:02:33 PM

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Re that last - I hope the NRA hasn't been too loud and aggressive in its support of the rioters, here. I wouldn't see that as helpful to the situation. Has Mr La Pierre managed to suppress his usual support of the masses against government forces on this occasion?

God, what a thought: What about La Pierre's advocating that rioters should be armed in the same way as the police who are attempting to control them? Would he be supporting an all out shooting match between rioters and police? Horrific.

I must say, it's hard for me to get my head around the idea of 'Right Wing' as it applies in the USA, versus here in the UK. Right wingers here would never support the idea of the oppressed masses having the same physical power as the authorities. Yet, there in the USA, a 'right winger' is someone who supports exactly that.

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RE: Rioting is the answer - 8/14/2014 4:04:01 PM

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Not attacking the peaceful protesters? Not arrest the reporters in the McDonald's? Not tear gas people in their home's? How about not aiming loaded weapons at peaceful protesters during daylight demonstrations?

Can you get this through your head, I'm talking about the police reaction to the demonstrations since Sunday only.

What you described only happened in your imagination. Since when is arson "peaceful protest" Remember you want us to put all responsibility for our protection in the hands of the police, if they are one forth as bad as you claim only a fool would do that.

Actually everything I posted happened in the last 24 hours. Get your head out of your ass.
And again the arson happened on Sunday. So again, all the demonstrations since have been peaceful.

If it has been so peaceful since Sunday why are 5 different news services carrying the story that today Obama called for the rioting to stop?
If Obama says they are still rioting it must be true, right?

You are misquoting the President dumbass. And if you care to actually check real news sources and not right wing nuts you can easily verify that every claim I've made happened on Wednesday. Check the Washington Post since it was their reporter that got arrested at the McD's.

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