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and exactly what would the lesson be? never question authority?

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and exactly what would the lesson be? never question authority?

You may be a fan of anarchy; I am not.

I'm afraid that the Rule of Law means that you are beholden to authority, whether or not you like it.

This is not a dig at you, Eulero, but Italian culture is different in the sense that your history is tainted by political extremes of both right and left.

By all means question authority, but when the polis are trying to undertake their duties in a reasonable fashion, and you're hampering their efforts; then there's no use in crying when they lock you up.

This country has a long history of liberty. We have always had a small standing army because the people don't like big gangs with too much power, and our polis wear blue due to a reaction from the public to the effect that we did not want an army or anything resembling an army on our streets.

But, this doesn't mean we're a pack of lunatics who can't respect the Rule of Law.

The two go hand in hand for me. If you think that you're entitled to ride roughshod over authority at every turn, then at some point you certainly will have a mob running round your streets.

Maybe it's a cultural difference, but I don't think you are such an expert on our habits, laws, culture, politics and history and not even about the difference by generational or geografical or whatever criteria could have formed my position. I also see not all the people in your or bamaD's country agree with you, so I suppose yours are just generalizations. I've the suspect it's more a political difference. You and some others keep implying she had it coming because "she broke the law" that somehow she needed t be educated with pain, this is the concept I reject.

If we had more Italians on here your view would not be accepted by 100%,
would that make you wrong?

actually it would back up what I was saying, it's a political and moral difference not cultural

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Maybe it's a cultural difference, but I don't think you are such an expert on our habits, laws, culture, politics and history and not even about the difference by generational or geografical or whatever criteria could have formed my position. I also see not all the people in your or bamaD's country agree with you, so I suppose yours are just generalizations. I've the suspect it's more a political difference. You and some others keep implying she had it coming because "she broke the law" that somehow she needed t be educated with pain, this is the concept I reject.

If we had more Italians on here your view would not be accepted by 100%,
would that make you wrong?

actually it would back up what I was saying, it's a political and moral difference not cultural

Then don't pretend that if some other Americans disagree with me it makes me wrong.

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Maybe it's a cultural difference, but I don't think you are such an expert on our habits, laws, culture, politics and history and not even about the difference by generational or geografical or whatever criteria could have formed my position. I also see not all the people in your or bamaD's country agree with you, so I suppose yours are just generalizations. I've the suspect it's more a political difference. You and some others keep implying she had it coming because "she broke the law" that somehow she needed t be educated with pain, this is the concept I reject.

If we had more Italians on here your view would not be accepted by 100%,
would that make you wrong?

actually it would back up what I was saying, it's a political and moral difference not cultural

Then don't pretend that if some other Americans disagree with me it makes me wrong.

Did I say that? No! I said your ideas are morally wrong.

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The problem is if for you a person asking question is chaos, and not using any violence is endangering people... your view of the world is warped.
And again no cruel and unusual punishment is in your costitution right? So if you think being tased is acceptable when the cop was clearly safe than it's your own costitution that says your ideas are morally wrong!

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I suppose you'd love the world to be all just black and white... maybe just in black.

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The problem is if for you a person asking question is chaos, and not using any violence is endangering people... your view of the world is warped.
And again no cruel and unusual punishment is in your costitution right? So if you think being tased is acceptable when the cop was clearly safe than it's your own costitution that says your ideas are morally wrong!

Getting in the way and hindering an arrest is endangering people.

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“I daresay that would not happen in upscale communities in Tallahassee,” said former city commissioner and mayor Dorothy Inman Johnson. “And we don’t want it happening any more in communities where African-Americans live predominantly when they’re raising their children and they want the same respect and they and the same safety for their children.”

Inman Johnson said the problems with the way Frenchtown is patrolled are based on an incorrect perception.

"The grandmother being tased as she was walking away from the police officer because she came down to find out what was happening is one of the things we see happening in the African-American community in the low income neighborhoods on a regular basis," Inman Johnson said.

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Inman Johnson said the residents of Frenchtown want the laws to be enforced just like in any other part of town where there is drug activity or crime.

"However, that does not give law enforcement justification for harassing citizens without cause and I feel strongly there was no cause, unless they can show me another reason, all four of those people were arrested," she added.

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Opposing chaos is morally wrong? Not thinking that people can just walk into a crime scene and keep the cops from doing their jobs, endangering everyone in the process without repercussions is morally wrong? Your view of the world is warped.

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The problem is if for you a person asking question is chaos, and not using any violence is endangering people... your view of the world is warped.
And again no cruel and unusual punishment is in your costitution right? So if you think being tased is acceptable when the cop was clearly safe than it's your own costitution that says your ideas are morally wrong!

Getting in the way and hindering an arrest is endangering people.

The video clearly showed otherwise.

Another interesting point in all of this is that, of the four people who were arrested in this incident, not one of them had drugs or were charged with any narcotics violations. So, the whole pretext for the cops being out there in the first place was totally bogus.

Advocates seek equal police treatment

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“I daresay that would not happen in upscale communities in Tallahassee,” said former city commissioner and mayor Dorothy Inman Johnson. “And we don’t want it happening any more in communities where African-Americans live predominantly when they’re raising their children and they want the same respect and they and the same safety for their children.”

Inman Johnson said the problems with the way Frenchtown is patrolled are based on an incorrect perception.

"The grandmother being tased as she was walking away from the police officer because she came down to find out what was happening is one of the things we see happening in the African-American community in the low income neighborhoods on a regular basis," Inman Johnson said.

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Inman Johnson said the residents of Frenchtown want the laws to be enforced just like in any other part of town where there is drug activity or crime.

"However, that does not give law enforcement justification for harassing citizens without cause and I feel strongly there was no cause, unless they can show me another reason, all four of those people were arrested," she added.

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Would that explain why you have such a huge number of people imprisoned?

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A small standing army? I googled that, and came up with your army, clearly not small, and the department for homeland security, also not small.

how would you define your modern day small standing army?

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The first rational opposition to the police.

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Aye, and if a polis dog bites yer arm off, you'll be missing a hand for a knife or fork.

But you tend not to need any medical attention if all that's happened is you've been run after, caught and held by a larger and stronger person.

Incidentally, NG, does everyone spell police as 'polis' up your way?