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Aylee -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 10:44:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

It was an incredible night for Money in politics.


The democrats outspent the GOP.



Musicmystery -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 10:53:27 AM)

Try again.

The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan Washington group whose job is to track political spending, estimates that candidates, parties, committees, outside groups and donors spent $3.67 billion on the 2014 midterm elections, $40 million more than what was spent in 2010.

According to the center, "Team Red," code for Republican-aligned groups, spent about $1.75 billion across the country by the time all the bills are paid. "Team Blue," Democratic-aligned groups, spent $110 million less, about $1.64 billion.

The remainder of the money comes from groups that wouldn’t fit into one box or the other.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/nov/06/joe-scarborough/which-side-spent-more-2014-midterms-democrats-or-r/



slvemike4u -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 12:31:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And the way to empower those people is dump the fuckin insurance companies. Give them real freedom and control. Not the illusion of it, while skinning their wallets.


Give lazy, fat assed bureaucrats and crony politicians total control?

Why, because you really love pain, punishment, humiliation and being owned that much?



Yeah,health care access for those who have been, heretofore shutout,will make slaves of us all [8|]
where do you get these views ?



Sanity -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 2:10:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And the way to empower those people is dump the fuckin insurance companies. Give them real freedom and control. Not the illusion of it, while skinning their wallets.


Give lazy, fat assed bureaucrats and crony politicians total control?

Why, because you really love pain, punishment, humiliation and being owned that much?



Yeah,health care access for those who have been, heretofore shutout,will make slaves of us all [8|]
where do you get these views ?


Yet another straw man fallacy

"Single payer" would be more than just healthcare for those of you who are indigent, its also government healthcare (and therefore bureaucratic control over our lives) forced on everyone, including those who can pay their own way and prefer to pay their own way

Probably everyone favors indigent care, and we already have that in many different forms



DomKen -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 4:13:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And the way to empower those people is dump the fuckin insurance companies. Give them real freedom and control. Not the illusion of it, while skinning their wallets.


Give lazy, fat assed bureaucrats and crony politicians total control?

Why, because you really love pain, punishment, humiliation and being owned that much?



Yeah,health care access for those who have been, heretofore shutout,will make slaves of us all [8|]
where do you get these views ?


Yet another straw man fallacy

"Single payer" would be more than just healthcare for those of you who are indigent, its also government healthcare (and therefore bureaucratic control over our lives) forced on everyone, including those who can pay their own way and prefer to pay their own way

Probably everyone favors indigent care, and we already have that in many different forms


No country in the world with single payer doesn't allow people to pay for care outside the government system. You need to have the nurse increase your meds again.



Sanity -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 4:36:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


No country in the world with single payer doesn't allow people to pay for care outside the government system. You need to have the nurse increase your meds again.


And pay double? How awesome is that.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 4:47:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
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ORIGINAL: DomKen
No country in the world with single payer doesn't allow people to pay for care outside the government system. You need to have the nurse increase your meds again.

And pay double? How awesome is that.


Then they'd be paying what we pay!



Lucylastic -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 5:10:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

Yet another straw man fallacy

"Single payer" would be more than just healthcare for those of you who are indigent, its also government healthcare (and therefore bureaucratic control over our lives) forced on everyone, including those who can pay their own way and prefer to pay their own way

Probably everyone favors indigent care, and we already have that in many different forms



indigent....ok thats funny, right there I dont care who you are, ......



Sanity -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 5:50:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Then they'd be paying what we pay!



Except... We would be paying for them once, and ourselves twice



DomKen -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 7:06:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


No country in the world with single payer doesn't allow people to pay for care outside the government system. You need to have the nurse increase your meds again.


And pay double? How awesome is that.



But you'd be free which was your complaint. Not cost.



Sanity -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/7/2014 7:14:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: DomKen


No country in the world with single payer doesn't allow people to pay for care outside the government system. You need to have the nurse increase your meds again.


And pay double? How awesome is that.



But you'd be free which was your complaint. Not cost.


Free government cheese, only three times the cost of regular cheese

What a deal



Musicmystery -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 6:38:51 AM)

Meanwhile, inside Sanity's brain "logic" section . . .

[image]http://image.blingee.com/images16/content/output/000/000/000/55b/439601744_1085679.gif[/image]

Aside from pulling cost data out of your ass, the cheese program is dead.

It started under your national-debt-quadrupling hero, Reagan, and ended early in Clinton's first term.

What your point is NOW, only the fairies in your imaginary brain center know.




Lucylastic -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 6:58:23 AM)

oh god the sparkles are giving me a migraine
but gawd that made me laugh coming from you MM:)
thank you



Sanity -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 7:09:58 AM)


FR

More intelligent leftists than we have here on this site bemoan their stunning losses to the Republicans

Unfortunately, the best wisdom our board leftists have to offer is ridiculing posts that they pretend are far over their heads

Par for the course though, here on collarchat




joether -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 7:26:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
More intelligent leftists than we have here on this site bemoan their stunning losses to the Republicans

Unfortunately, the best wisdom our board leftists have to offer is ridiculing posts that they pretend are far over their heads

Par for the course though, here on collarchat


Ok, what are the Republicans going to do in the 150 days they are in session before the General Election? Knowing that Democrats will undermine in a number of different ways. An how? Well, they wanted the Republican/Tea Party pull all the tricks in the previous six years, so why not use the same crap back at them....

Yes a 150 days (give or take a week). They have to show they are the better deal for America. They have to get shit down! And the American people are...PISSED...at Congress when it accomplishes little or nothing. So this Republican/Tea Party is up against the most epic shit storm since that tiny village in Asia met up with the full might of Genghis Khan! And you know what's going to happen? Like that tiny village, they are going to get...STEAMROLLED. Each GOP/TP'er will get ass raped by five guys larger than Arnold in his prime....no lube....



Sanity -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 7:31:01 AM)


Have a look at the article, and then reply, if you have anything intelligent to add.

(Just a suggestion).



Musicmystery -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 7:35:46 AM)

There's no doubt Republicans have had much better long term strategies regarding gathering and consolidating their own power.

Alas, they're pretty clueless about actually solving any problems effectively beyond their own power.

But in this area, absolutely, they have the upper hand. As Will Rogers used to observe, "I don't belong to an organized political party -- I'm a Democrat."

Republican leadership is also much more willing to take polarizing stances. Democrats' leaders can be spineless.




Lucylastic -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 7:46:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

It was an incredible night for Money in politics.


The democrats outspent the GOP.

now where did I claim who outspent who?
Oh thats right, I didnt
and I think you will find MM pointed out the factual information.
Of course dark money comes from both parties altho the dems seem to be more open
Money owns politics, simple



joether -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 7:51:54 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Have a look at the article, and then reply, if you have anything intelligent to add.


You have trouble identifying conservative media propaganda, don't you? Why am I not surprised....



Sanity -> RE: Republican Wave! (11/8/2014 7:53:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: joether

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity
Have a look at the article, and then reply, if you have anything intelligent to add.


You have trouble identifying conservative media propaganda, don't you? Why am I not surprised....


Funniest fucking thing I have read all week



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