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Accept that no one really cares what you want.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

That's really it, isn't it -- everyone thinks they know better than everyone else.

My doctor doesn't give me legal advice. My lawyer doesn't give me medical advice.

My musician friends don't tell me how to write. My writer friends don't tell me how to perform.

Knowing one doesn't have all the answers is key to any kind of real wisdom. Respecting the wishes and requests of others is key to any kind of real maturity.

That's really the issue. Separate sections, group sections, clear OP requests -- none of it really matters, as long as the above is true. Sometimes, that's just the nature of interacting with others.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You've seen me post . . .

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I'm still adjusting to the idea that someone posted something with a point!

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ORIGINAL: LiveSpark

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ORIGINAL: SinFix

LOL.. I know I skipped that class, I instead went to the seduce tyrants class, much more fun and entertaining... But to stay somewhat on topic here, OP came onto this forum to pose a question to "masters", got answers from all types though resented the fact she got answers from fellow submissives. In all fairness, is that hazing? giving the name of the forum, should submissives keep their perspectives to themselves even though it could be very beneficial to newbies? The majority of newbs that come here, have that "cluelessness" about them of one true wayism, and would it benefit these forums to either "rename" them or keep status quo that has "regulars" appearing to haze and drive off the newcomers?

In this case her choice. She even said if she wanted our perspective she would have asked for it. Clear enough. I think if more than one perspective is wanted it'll be asked in the general forum.

So then what you are implying is that for people like my self who don't fully identify as dominant or fully as a submissive should keep our damn noses off this section? It's a fact of life that many of us identify as switches and we are able to engage on both sides to the D/s dynamic. That in itself gives us a unique perspective since we have a good idea how of both perspectives.

Frankly to rant, demand or insist that in this section or any other section on this site to be restricted or even implied that it is solely regulated for specific roles is utterly bullshit in my eyes. Yes this section is geared towards dominants thus is this strictly for ones who are legitimately 100% dominant, what about the ones who are still growing into that role? What about switches who are primarily dominant yet also engage in submission? What about people who identify as Primal? etc etc etc. You can clearly see it leads to absolute idiotic to restrict a person based on how they identify in WIITWD

NO I was saying is that when someone asks for a particular point of view it should be respected. In case you haven't noticed there's an awesome section for Switches where btw I wouldn't post because guess what I'M NOT A SWITCH! Amazing isn't it a section for different identities! In any case if you look a bit further down I changed my mind. I'n not sure why you're being so nasty though it's not like I could stop you anyway.

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ORIGINAL: Arturas

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ORIGINAL: SinFix

LOL.. I know I skipped that class, I instead went to the seduce tyrants class, much more fun and entertaining... But to stay somewhat on topic here, OP came onto this forum to pose a question to "masters", got answers from all types though resented the fact she got answers from fellow submissives. In all fairness, is that hazing? giving the name of the forum, should submissives keep their perspectives to themselves even though it could be very beneficial to newbies? The majority of newbs that come here, have that "cluelessness" about them of one true wayism, and would it benefit these forums to either "rename" them or keep status quo that has "regulars" appearing to haze and drive off the newcomers?

In this case her choice. She even said if she wanted our perspective she would have asked for it. Clear enough. I think if more than one perspective is wanted it'll be asked in the general forum.

So then what you are implying is that for people like my self who don't fully identify as dominant or fully as a submissive should keep our damn noses off this section? It's a fact of life that many of us identify as switches and we are able to engage on both sides to the D/s dynamic. That in itself gives us a unique perspective since we have a good idea how of both perspectives.

Frankly to rant, demand or insist that in this section or any other section on this site to be restricted or even implied that it is solely regulated for specific roles is utterly bullshit in my eyes. Yes this section is geared towards dominants thus is this strictly for ones who are legitimately 100% dominant, what about the ones who are still growing into that role? What about switches who are primarily dominant yet also engage in submission? What about people who identify as Primal? etc etc etc. You can clearly see it leads to absolute idiotic to restrict a person based on how they identify in WIITWD

I am certain the arguments, about who can or should respond in any given board, are missing the real situation.

If you focus on what actually happened, the Op does not say anything about who she wanted to respond to her original post until two submissives, a Red one and another who backed her up, took a cheap shot at a newby poster, the OP, degrading her for her question; treating her like she is stupid. It was distastful.

More to the point, this is always the case when someone complains about who is responding, not that they really are upset that a Dom or submissive or switch or kajira or whomever is responding to their question but that someone who was not invited is taking a cheap shot at the newbee and the newbee suddently realizes their attacker was not "invited".

Funny how it works out that way.

So, I suggest if you go back and focus on the real situation here with the OP, and it ain't about who should or should not reply to the Original Post, you will find the real reason the Op responded this way is that two submissives entered this board and took a shot at a newby and she is pissed...

...and she does not need my ok to be pissed, it is her "right".

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Sorry Arturas but give me more credit than that.

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Calling members a herd and a clique, that jump newbies does seem to have a reflection upon the forum over all, but also because you feel the right to call them names or suggest in a derogatory manner that there is a flaw, which in itself and your words is somewhat like what you claim is wrong here.

What is the difference between what you have said about and to members, than what they have said about and to members?

Could it be name calling?

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ORIGINAL: Arturas



About the difference. The difference is "they" posted falsely to hurt the op and I posted truthfully in pointing that out.

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Thank you Sir for your Advice about meeting in person. If i can find an event in my area i will be going for sure. i am so sick of being used.

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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Greetings,

My major one thought in this rule type of life is that if he looked like the actor...the rock...or that blond actor from that motorcycle series....you know the one...LOL....or maybe even Jake Gyngel or however you say it or write it...or even brad Pitt....I truly wonder if the rule will still be kept or would you go to the meeting and just bend yourself over the table and beg to be used.

Go figure that out and then you can live by the rules.

Frank.

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ORIGINAL: FrankAr

Greetings,

You know everyone has rules, they live with rules everyday, simple. If you have a rule, then live with it, if he has a rule, then you can say yes or no and then move on, just that really simple.

My major one thought in this rule type of life is that if he looked like the actor...the rock...or that blond actor from that motorcycle series....you know the one...LOL....or maybe even Jake Gyngel or however you say it or write it...or even brad Pitt....I truly wonder if the rule will still be kept or would you go to the meeting and just bend yourself over the table and beg to be used.

Go figure that out and then you can live by the rules.

Frank.

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Calling members a herd and a clique, that jump newbies does seem to have a reflection upon the forum over all, but also because you feel the right to call them names or suggest in a derogatory manner that there is a flaw, which in itself and your words is somewhat like what you claim is wrong here.

What is the difference between what you have said about and to members, than what they have said about and to members?

Could it be name calling?

About the difference. The difference is "they" posted falsely to hurt the op and I posted truthfully in pointing that out.

About name calling. So, truth is good and telling the truth about someone is not "name calling". False is bad and speaking falsely about someone is "name calling".

About herds and cliques. It only takes more than one to be a clique. Cliques occur anywhere people gather since it is a natural part of human behavior.They are not bad, they are not good, they just are. One can recognize the reality of their existance when they appear and do damage.