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Under the scheme, family doctors will be asked to identify anyone who has gained weight and is at risk of diabetes – particularly those aged below 40.

They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more.

quote:

'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and — one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency — bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.

'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years...

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Good grief, really?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11295265/Doctors-told-to-report-patients-who-put-on-weight.html

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Under the scheme, family doctors will be asked to identify anyone who has gained weight and is at risk of diabetes – particularly those aged below 40.

They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more.

Two plus two makes five, now?

I think I have read about this sort of close monitoring before:

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'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and — one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency — bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.

'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years...

I am glad that for now I do not live in Airstrip One.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

It's identifying people at risk for diabetes, who will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice.

Oh the horrors.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Good grief, really?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11295265/Doctors-told-to-report-patients-who-put-on-weight.html

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Under the scheme, family doctors will be asked to identify anyone who has gained weight and is at risk of diabetes – particularly those aged below 40.

They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more.

Two plus two makes five, now?

I think I have read about this sort of close monitoring before:

quote:

'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and — one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency — bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.

'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years...

I am glad that for now I do not live in Airstrip One.

Is that so bad? to offer people that have gained weight an alternative and ways to eat and live healthier, better lives? They aren't going to be thrown into a sweatshop/jail to work off the pounds, it will be their choice to say no or yes..

from that article-
"Major research has found that losing just 5 to 7 per cent of weight can reduce the change of diabetes by nearly 60 per cent, he said. "

from a link on that page to another article..

"5lb weight loss cuts breast cancer death risk by two-thirds
Death rates for the deadliest cancers are up to 70 per cent lower among those who lose weight"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11291670/5lb-weight-loss-cuts-breast-cancer-death-risk-by-two-thirds.html

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Good grief, really?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11295265/Doctors-told-to-report-patients-who-put-on-weight.html

quote:

Under the scheme, family doctors will be asked to identify anyone who has gained weight and is at risk of diabetes – particularly those aged below 40.

They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more.

Two plus two makes five, now?

I think I have read about this sort of close monitoring before:

quote:

'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and — one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency — bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.

'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years...

I am glad that for now I do not live in Airstrip One.

Is that so bad? to offer people that have gained weight an alternative and ways to eat and live healthier, better lives? They aren't going to be thrown into a sweatshop/jail to work off the pounds, it will be their choice to say no or yes..

from that article-
"Major research has found that losing just 5 to 7 per cent of weight can reduce the change of diabetes by nearly 60 per cent, he said. "

from a link on that page to another article..

"5lb weight loss cuts breast cancer death risk by two-thirds
Death rates for the deadliest cancers are up to 70 per cent lower among those who lose weight"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11291670/5lb-weight-loss-cuts-breast-cancer-death-risk-by-two-thirds.html

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Again, it is the "close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more," that red flags this for me. How are they planning to ensure such?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Good grief, really?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11295265/Doctors-told-to-report-patients-who-put-on-weight.html

quote:

Under the scheme, family doctors will be asked to identify anyone who has gained weight and is at risk of diabetes – particularly those aged below 40.

They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more.

Two plus two makes five, now?

I think I have read about this sort of close monitoring before:

quote:

'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and — one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency — bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.

'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years...

I am glad that for now I do not live in Airstrip One.

Is that so bad? to offer people that have gained weight an alternative and ways to eat and live healthier, better lives? They aren't going to be thrown into a sweatshop/jail to work off the pounds, it will be their choice to say no or yes..

from that article-
"Major research has found that losing just 5 to 7 per cent of weight can reduce the change of diabetes by nearly 60 per cent, he said. "

from a link on that page to another article..

"5lb weight loss cuts breast cancer death risk by two-thirds
Death rates for the deadliest cancers are up to 70 per cent lower among those who lose weight"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11291670/5lb-weight-loss-cuts-breast-cancer-death-risk-by-two-thirds.html

Do you see the difference between offering and dictating?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Do you see evidence of forced anything?

Geez. Let the fuckers become diabetics, instead of helping them prevent it.

Maybe just fucking shoot them. Fun for all! With automatic weapons and unstamped ammo.

Here's the ominous threat:

“We are calling for a national new year's resolution in January to tackle the aftermath of turkey, pud and cake,” he said.

On current trends, 63 per cent of men in their 50s will be obese by 2034, along with 38 per cent of women, official data shows.

If average rates of obesity were brought back to 1993 levels, around five million incidences of disease could be prevented in two decades, official forecasts show.

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

Good grief, really?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11295265/Doctors-told-to-report-patients-who-put-on-weight.html

quote:

Under the scheme, family doctors will be asked to identify anyone who has gained weight and is at risk of diabetes – particularly those aged below 40.

They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more.

Two plus two makes five, now?

I think I have read about this sort of close monitoring before:

quote:

'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and — one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency — bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.

'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years...

I am glad that for now I do not live in Airstrip One.

Is that so bad? to offer people that have gained weight an alternative and ways to eat and live healthier, better lives? They aren't going to be thrown into a sweatshop/jail to work off the pounds, it will be their choice to say no or yes..

from that article-
"Major research has found that losing just 5 to 7 per cent of weight can reduce the change of diabetes by nearly 60 per cent, he said. "

from a link on that page to another article..

"5lb weight loss cuts breast cancer death risk by two-thirds
Death rates for the deadliest cancers are up to 70 per cent lower among those who lose weight"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11291670/5lb-weight-loss-cuts-breast-cancer-death-risk-by-two-thirds.html

Do you see the difference between offering and dictating?

Yes I do see the difference.. can you read? it says right in the article "They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more. " It says nothing of anyone being dictated to..

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

"GPs will be asked to identify patients who are putting on weight under a new national programme to help fight obesity."

Identify. And then follow up with their patients.

"Report" is the Telegraphs--not the sanest of publications--sensationalist headline.

The government isn't going to do anything about it except ask doctors to do it, and presumably pass on the data (which need not contain names, just numbers).

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tj444

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tj444

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

Good grief, really?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11295265/Doctors-told-to-report-patients-who-put-on-weight.html

quote:

Under the scheme, family doctors will be asked to identify anyone who has gained weight and is at risk of diabetes – particularly those aged below 40.

They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more.

Two plus two makes five, now?

I think I have read about this sort of close monitoring before:

quote:

'Smith!' screamed the shrewish voice from the telescreen. '6079 Smith W.! Yes, you! Bend lower, please! You can do better than that. You're not trying. Lower, please! That's better, comrade. Now stand at ease, the whole squad, and watch me.'

A sudden hot sweat had broken out all over Winston's body. His face remained completely inscrutable. Never show dismay! Never show resentment! A single flicker of the eyes could give you away. He stood watching while the instructress raised her arms above her head and — one could not say gracefully, but with remarkable neatness and efficiency — bent over and tucked the first joint of her fingers under her toes.

'There, comrades! That's how I want to see you doing it. Watch me again. I'm thirty-nine and I've had four children. Now look.' She bent over again. 'You see my knees aren't bent. You can all do it if you want to,' she added as she straightened herself up. 'Anyone under forty-five is perfectly capable of touching his toes. We don't all have the privilege of fighting in the front line, but at least we can all keep fit. Remember our boys on the Malabar front! And the sailors in the Floating Fortresses! Just think what they have to put up with. Now try again. That's better, comrade, that's much better,' she added encouragingly as Winston, with a violent lunge, succeeded in touching his toes with knees unbent, for the first time in several years...

I am glad that for now I do not live in Airstrip One.

Is that so bad? to offer people that have gained weight an alternative and ways to eat and live healthier, better lives? They aren't going to be thrown into a sweatshop/jail to work off the pounds, it will be their choice to say no or yes..

from that article-
"Major research has found that losing just 5 to 7 per cent of weight can reduce the change of diabetes by nearly 60 per cent, he said. "

from a link on that page to another article..

"5lb weight loss cuts breast cancer death risk by two-thirds
Death rates for the deadliest cancers are up to 70 per cent lower among those who lose weight"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/11291670/5lb-weight-loss-cuts-breast-cancer-death-risk-by-two-thirds.html

Do you see the difference between offering and dictating?

Yes I do see the difference.. can you read? it says right in the article "They will then be offered tests for pre-diabetes, followed by healthy lifestyle advice and close monitoring to ensure they are eating better and exercising more. " It says nothing of anyone being dictated to..

Ensure goes way beyond advise.

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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

"GPs will be asked to identify patients who are putting on weight under a new national programme to help fight obesity."

Identify. And then follow up with their patients.

"Report" is the Telegraphs--not the sanest of publications--sensationalist headline.

The government isn't going to do anything about it except ask doctors to do it, and presumably pass on the data (which need not contain names, just numbers).

And how would the government offer tests and advice to numbers?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Seems you're smuggling in a lot of assumptions here.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

I don't have time to teach you. If you can't figure out that the doctors do the care and report the numbers, you'll have to find someone willing to invest time in your remedial tutelage.