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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 8:04:49 AM   
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I mean if such lies are impeachable, how did W survive his 1st term ?

What lies are you talking about?

Lets discussion who should have gotten impeached:
Candidate A: Lies to Congress and the nation about having sexual relationships with an intern (i.e. an affair) that doesnt effect their job duties as 'President of the United States'.
Candidate B: Lies to Congress and the nation about another nation having, and I quote, "Massive Stockpiles" of 'Weapons of Mass Destruction". That the nation's military is used to invade and control that country. By the time the lie is discovered, 3,500+ are dead US Soldiers, 32,500+ are long term injured US Soldiers, and 100,000-600,000 civilians are dead (depending on which report is believed). Not to mention spending $4 trillion of borrowed money to finance the whole thing.
And that both Candidates had Republican controlled Congresses at the time. So please tell us DS,....WHICH...of those two candidates should have been impeached for LYING?
How about those 'Enhanced Interrogation Techniques' the Bush White House stated were 'perfectly lawful'? Ever heard of the 8th amendment? Do you know what it is?
An then there are those brown outages that kept hitting the nation mysteriously. That the Bush Administration brought in all the heads of the various electricity companies to the white house one day, behind closed doors and off the record to discuss 'how to fix the problem'. Soon after that, those problems....magically...disappeared. And that those companies got mysterious tax breaks soon afterward. Must be a coincidence.....right? Because the Bush Administration as.....FULLY....honest with everything, right?



Who was Candidate A?


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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 8:38:30 AM   
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Well to push Obama's right wing agenda along even further I've read that the new Congress will seek to:

• Next year, House Republicans will try again to transform Medicare and Medicaid, repeal the Affordable Care Act, shrink domestic spending and substantially cut the highest tax rates through the budget process. Then they will leave it to the new Senate Republican majority to decide how far to press the party’s small-government vision, senior House aides said this week.

• Congressional Republicans intend to present a plan to overhaul Medicare, calling for voucherlike “premium supports” to steer people 65 and over into buying commercial health insurance, and to transform Medicaid, which would be cut and turned into block grants to state governments. They also intend to set up a new commission to study options on Social Security, while relying on what one House Republican aide called “the solid foundation” of the Ryan budget plan.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/opinion/gail-collins-of-taxes-pigs-and-congress.html?module=Search&mabReward=relbias%3Ar%2C{%222%22%3A%22RI%3A12%22}

In sun, while the Republican Base is complaining that gains in the stock market and dollar mean nothing to them (few admit seeing an personal benefit), the base is prepared to saddle up for paying out of pocket for healthcare at age 65 and over while readying themselves for even greater income inequality.

--NOT MAKING THIS UP......

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 8:57:19 AM   
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Well to push Obama's right wing agenda along even further I've read that the new Congress will seek to:


Obama is a "rightie," now?


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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 9:15:11 AM   
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well ...to be fair, he isnt a marxist socialist mooslem


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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 9:18:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: cloudboy
Well to push Obama's right wing agenda along even further I've read that the new Congress will seek to:


Obama is a "rightie," now?



A rightie who is only responsible for the stock market if it is "up" and who single handedly caused all of the world currencies around us to collapse

I asked cloudboy this at a point in time when the stock market was down

Notice the non-answer and standard personal attacks that followed

If its good, Barack Obama did it alone (personally shot Osama bin Laden dead, for another example of this phenomenon)

If its something that is deemed a negative, why that dirty low down rotten "do-nothing congress" has all of the power these days, and has to be stopped...


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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 9:32:24 AM   
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New Year,same old sanity....



cue the cries of personal attack.....

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 10:41:17 AM   
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New Year,same old sanity....

cue the cries of personal attack.....
And these aren't?

"If you can find one conservative (on this forum or in the nation) that can admit reality that their party is full of racists (and are happy to support racism); I'll show a liberal whom doesn't like the ACA. That being racist is a virtue to conservatives. Just as being stupid, ignorant, irresponsible, unaccountable, without compassion, hateful, mean, and like to play petty games with metaphorical WMDs, is a virtue.;Ironically they have all the so called 'Christians' whom hate that people aren't forced to obey their religious lunacy too (and hate the President because he is more Christian then they are combined)!

Yes, Mr. Obama was judged much more unfairly for problems and never given any 'at-a-boys' when he did well by conservatives on this forum and in the nation. That they cant admit his accomplishments (which are many more than Mr. Reagan now). Nor acknowledge that the guy really does give a shit about the nation and the people it makes up.

All due to his skin color. How many conservatives on this forum have their J.D.'s? And are a constitutional scholar? NONE! But that doesnt stop them from coming up with completely FUBAR positions to oppose the President.(can't wait to see how you twist this argument for not speaking out against politicians next time you do and someone throws this same argument back in your face) That they feel that if someone is any color but white, they cant be accomplished, skilled, and/or educated. The President could school any of those Republican Representatives and Senators, not to mention the justices any day of the week. (your proof of this? Some story where it describes him doing so?)

Of course, its not just because he's black, but he's also a Democrat. Since conservatives hold Democrats and the President to an extremely high (if not impossible) standard. All the while giving the people they vote into office (and wield power poorly and foolishly) not an ounce of accountability or responsibility with power. An how many conservatives on here have challenged me on it? NOT A SINGLE ONE.(actually, they have. Numerous times. But because it doesn't fit your mantra that they have no challenge, you ignore them when they do). Because if they held their people they support and vote to the same level of accountability and responsibility with pclaim to the rest, which is generalizedower as the President and Democrats, this nation would have better government....virtually....overnight!

In case you aren't aware, the bolded sections are mine. I wouldn't' want to lay claim to the test of the parroted talking points which do not reflect all of those on the left...just the nut fringe.

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 10:56:19 AM   
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Joether is not Sanity.
Mike mentioned Sanity, thats all.

not even in the same realm
Or you didnt understand the comment
Or you dont see sanity whinging about "personal attacks " on him?
maybe you just dont want to.


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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 11:06:57 AM   
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"If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a Conservative Hero"




It's sad to see you reduced to posting shit like this, Muse. I'll wish you a return to health in 2015.

What a crock of shit. If Obama were a white Republican, the whole Marxist worldview thing would make him very unpopular on the fundraiser circuit. ATMs as job killers isn't going to be a good theme.

Besides that, liberals would hate him beyond words. That church he attended? The terrorist bomber buddy? The media would have him painted in about 30 miles loonier than the Palin ranch.


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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 11:52:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

Obama is a "rightie," now?



Did you not read the OP?

• Instead of fortifying his legacy with economic populism, Obama has presided over an economic “recovery” where only the rich have benefited – the first “recovery” of its kind.

• It speaks volumes that President Obama agreed to cut food stamps by $8.7 billion and WIC by $93 million, but committed to spending $1 trillion over the next 30 years to upgrade our nuclear weapons stockpile.

• The rich are richer than ever before,

• President Obama has masterfully steered the benefits of the recovery to only the wealthy, while the net worth of average working Americans has dropped by 40 percent since before the recession. Today’s middle class is actually poorer than it was in 1989,

• The Dow Jones closed above 18,000 this week – the highest ever. And yet, despite an apparently surging economy, 95 percent of income gains since 2009 have gone to the richest 1 percent. Not even Ronald Reagan’s economic policies created inequality on that scale.

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 11:55:32 AM   
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Zero substance and bald faced accusations and conclusions. In this regard, you fully remain Sanity's wing-man.

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 12:08:23 PM   
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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

New Year,same old sanity....



cue the cries of personal attack.....


You are but making my point

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 12:15:07 PM   
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Joether is not Sanity.
Mike mentioned Sanity, thats all.

not even in the same realm
Or you didnt understand the comment
Or you dont see sanity whinging about "personal attacks " on him?
maybe you just dont want to.

So true..joether is in his own little world. However, to see Mike talk about Sanity and his complaints of personal attacks when there's one on your own side who makes broad unfounded attacks on all conservatives is a bit...peculiar.

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 12:19:19 PM   
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Im not responsible for that persons writing anymore than I am yours.
Why is Mike responsible for what that persona says or does?



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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 1:22:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: CreativeDominant


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Joether is not Sanity.
Mike mentioned Sanity, thats all.

not even in the same realm
Or you didnt understand the comment
Or you dont see sanity whinging about "personal attacks " on him?
maybe you just dont want to.

So true..joether is in his own little world. However, to see Mike talk about Sanity and his complaints of personal attacks when there's one on your own side who makes broad unfounded attacks on all conservatives is a bit...peculiar.


How is it that I am muzzled in what I post cause someone who you believe is on the same side of the aisle as .....aww,fuck it.What Lucy said

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 4:55:33 PM   
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"If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a Conservative Hero"




It's sad to see you reduced to posting shit like this, Muse. I'll wish you a return to health in 2015.

What a crock of shit. If Obama were a white Republican, the whole Marxist worldview thing would make him very unpopular on the fundraiser circuit. ATMs as job killers isn't going to be a good theme.

Besides that, liberals would hate him beyond words. That church he attended? The terrorist bomber buddy? The media would have him painted in about 30 miles loonier than the Palin ranch.


You should try actually reading it, before making proclamations.

The point it makes is that much of what he's done is what had been proclaimed as conservative goals, now achieved.


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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 7:03:37 PM   
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Im not responsible for that persons writing anymore than I am yours.
Why is Mike responsible for what that persona says or does?


He's not. And if you can show me where I blamed mike, I'll apologize.

But I didn't...I merely used mikes mention of personal attacks as a jumping off point to point out personal attacks from someone on the left.

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 8:44:45 PM   
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You should try actually reading it, before making proclamations.




I did, Muse, and when I saw what it was, I came back to mock you for posting shit.






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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/1/2015 9:22:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Joether is not Sanity.
Mike mentioned Sanity, thats all.

not even in the same realm
Or you didnt understand the comment
Or you dont see sanity whinging about "personal attacks " on him?
maybe you just dont want to.




You are so right, mike didn't mention joether, he never does. Apparently some bigots get a pass and the hate is only wrong when its coming from the other side.

And before you assume I mean you in any way, I was talking about mike and only mike.

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RE: "If Obama Were a White Republican, He'd Be a C... - 1/2/2015 6:48:21 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

You should try actually reading it, before making proclamations.




I did, Muse, and when I saw what it was, I came back to mock you for posting shit.






Sorry you weren't able to address the content instead.

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