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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:42:43 PM   
LiveSpark


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ORIGINAL: SinFix

LiveSpark.. apparently, using what she herself said is not appreciated and I should pat a complete stranger on the head that posted her personal problems on the internet...


Not your problem anymore apparently you've been blocked. <waits for the flounce>

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:47:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LiveSpark


quote:

ORIGINAL: SinFix

LiveSpark.. apparently, using what she herself said is not appreciated and I should pat a complete stranger on the head that posted her personal problems on the internet...


Not your problem anymore apparently you've been blocked. <waits for the flounce>


(Hopes for the hippo flounce, cuz it's cool and shit.)

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:48:31 PM   
SinFix


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Status: offline 		Hmmm flouncing.. must garner more information about flouncing... though if I hear correctly only the coolest of the cool kids do it

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:48:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


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ORIGINAL: CelticSkull2

I appreciate your support SMgirl- I blocked that person and their posts will no longer show. I am not here to fight via keyboard strokes. I am here for advice and support and I appreciate all who take the time to help <3


Support what, exactly?

You've given us enough information to deduce that you want him to wear a scarlet "L" for something we know nothing about. I get that you're hurt, that this may have been your first trip in not-so-well-informed D/s, but you need to understand that we are viewing one side of a convoluted story that we have no information about, do not have the other half of the story, and on this particular forum we have members with life threatening crises that we are well informed about, we suffer (emotionally) with them. We see Icarus posts a LOT, and it is quite difficult to extend empathy with so little information.

That said, you're going to have to dish out more info if you really want help with this.

Jus sayin


You're right but then essentially every advice we give is somewhat of a shot in the dark. I sense her feelings are valid based on how logically she stated them as well as giving him some slack with "he is human, made a mistake". I would not necessarily support her telling her entire story. I would just work with what I've got to give the most objective opinion I can.

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:50:59 PM   
SinFix


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Status: offline 		GoddessManko If I understand ET correctly it is more about not having the other side of the story other than he did it to protect her feelings.. So any advice is pointless seeing how she so succinctly stated how she never forgives and lets people back in that lie.. Hence she has made her decision on the matter

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:53:52 PM   
LiveSpark


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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


quote:

ORIGINAL: LiveSpark


quote:

ORIGINAL: SinFix

LiveSpark.. apparently, using what she herself said is not appreciated and I should pat a complete stranger on the head that posted her personal problems on the internet...


Not your problem anymore apparently you've been blocked. <waits for the flounce>


(Hopes for the hippo flounce, cuz it's cool and shit.)


Your choice of course, you're her Master, but I recommend flouncing it old school. Less cool but it's a classic.

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I also have the sarcasm gene which is NOT to be taken seriously.

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:55:01 PM   
SinFix


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Status: offline 		Omg.. LiveSpark, I love you.. I will so pull off an Aubrey flounce, to perfection...

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:56:54 PM   
LiveSpark


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ORIGINAL: SinFix

Omg.. LiveSpark, I love you.. I will so pull off an Aubrey flounce, to perfection...


Oh SNAP rock that flounce I'm right behind you!

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I've been here as MontrealPhoenix, zephyr and
TheFireWithinMe.

I also have the sarcasm gene which is NOT to be taken seriously.

If you fall I'll always be there to catch you ~ Floor

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:56:58 PM   
ExiledTyrant


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko


quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticSkull2

I appreciate your support SMgirl- I blocked that person and their posts will no longer show. I am not here to fight via keyboard strokes. I am here for advice and support and I appreciate all who take the time to help <3


Support what, exactly?

You've given us enough information to deduce that you want him to wear a scarlet "L" for something we know nothing about. I get that you're hurt, that this may have been your first trip in not-so-well-informed D/s, but you need to understand that we are viewing one side of a convoluted story that we have no information about, do not have the other half of the story, and on this particular forum we have members with life threatening crises that we are well informed about, we suffer (emotionally) with them. We see Icarus posts a LOT, and it is quite difficult to extend empathy with so little information.

That said, you're going to have to dish out more info if you really want help with this.

Jus sayin


You're right but then essentially every advice we give is somewhat of a shot in the dark. I sense her feelings are valid based on how logically she stated them as well as giving him some slack with "he is human, made a mistake". I would not necessarily support her telling her entire story. I would just work with what I've got to give the most objective opinion I can.


Any advice we could possibly give is going to be severely tainted by the "lie":

Oops... I'm married.
Oops... the vasectomy didn't take.
Oops... I know I said I wouldn't fuck you after I tied you up, but since you're tied...
Oops... I'm an escaped convict.
oops... I may be your father... did your mom go to woodstock, cuz you have the family birthmark on your ass.

The advice is going to be as subjective as the subject. We could say, "kill the rat bastard!" Then we read on the web "CM sub kills D cuz he ran over her cat and lied."

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 2:58:26 PM   
ExiledTyrant


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SinFix

Omg.. LiveSpark, I love you.. I will so pull off an Aubrey flounce, to perfection...


Ahhh... that's My flouncing demoness

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Semper fidelis (which sometimes feels like a burden)

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:03:16 PM   
SinFix


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Status: offline 		Mo Anam.. it's just cause you love my ass that you wanna see me flounce

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:04:34 PM   
ExiledTyrant


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SinFix

Mo Anam.. it's just cause you love my ass that you wanna see me flounce


Am I so transparent, mo chroi?

Wait... I am, yep, that's my motive.

Jus sayin

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Semper fidelis (which sometimes feels like a burden)

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:07:18 PM   
GoddessManko


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SinFix

GoddessManko If I understand ET correctly it is more about not having the other side of the story other than he did it to protect her feelings.. So any advice is pointless seeing how she so succinctly stated how she never forgives and lets people back in that lie.. Hence she has made her decision on the matter


You're right, Sinfix. It is a tough call, but I think because it's so early, she's thankfully not too drawn in she can find a reason for "closure". Closure is as important I feel as the breakup itself, that's part of healing and sometimes doesn't happen which is worst case scenario. I don't wanna be the one to ruin what could be a good relationship which is why I opted for the least destructive course of action, LOL.
Knowing it is a young relationship definitely helps because it means that indeed, she gets completely drawn in and relinquishes rights as a submissive and lives as the lifestyle requires her, but perhaps her inclination to go full throttle is what scares her and rightfully so because she needs a high level of trust to get into that "head space". This is sort of the premise I'm going on. She could indeed be a 57 year old male Dom like freedomdwarf stated, LOL. I don't know if her version of his side of the story will help us get any closer to the facts or answers and I think she should draw the line of how much she wishes to indulge.
Having an unusually high level of willful submission is hard when 100% trust is the desired component. Even if she herself is the most trustworthy person on the planet, it would be hard to expect others to live up to it because most of us do lie, even if by omission. I think the context changes depending on the lie and whether it was something done for simply the sake of lying. Maybe this guy lies about anything and everything. Maybe he's a good egg. She would need to be proactive in figuring this out herself is what I believe. This is with the premise everything she stated is true.

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http://submissivemale.blogspot.com/

The Bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:10:24 PM   
LiveSpark


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quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessManko


quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant


quote:

ORIGINAL: CelticSkull2

I appreciate your support SMgirl- I blocked that person and their posts will no longer show. I am not here to fight via keyboard strokes. I am here for advice and support and I appreciate all who take the time to help <3


Support what, exactly?

You've given us enough information to deduce that you want him to wear a scarlet "L" for something we know nothing about. I get that you're hurt, that this may have been your first trip in not-so-well-informed D/s, but you need to understand that we are viewing one side of a convoluted story that we have no information about, do not have the other half of the story, and on this particular forum we have members with life threatening crises that we are well informed about, we suffer (emotionally) with them. We see Icarus posts a LOT, and it is quite difficult to extend empathy with so little information.

That said, you're going to have to dish out more info if you really want help with this.

Jus sayin


You're right but then essentially every advice we give is somewhat of a shot in the dark. I sense her feelings are valid based on how logically she stated them as well as giving him some slack with "he is human, made a mistake". I would not necessarily support her telling her entire story. I would just work with what I've got to give the most objective opinion I can.


Well no. The more info we have the less a shot in the dark our advice is. In this case personally I would like more info before commenting. For example SinFix already commented on their only having been together 3 months and was (snarkily) told that they had known each other longer. Little is known but response is snark when someone gets it wrong due to lack of info. Personally I'd rather know the whole story than make a guesstimate.

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I've been here as MontrealPhoenix, zephyr and
TheFireWithinMe.

I also have the sarcasm gene which is NOT to be taken seriously.

If you fall I'll always be there to catch you ~ Floor

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:11:39 PM   
LiveSpark


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quote:

ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

quote:

ORIGINAL: SinFix

Mo Anam.. it's just cause you love my ass that you wanna see me flounce


Am I so transparent, mo chroi?

Wait... I am, yep, that's my motive.

Jus sayin


Pretty much, yes. I on the other hand just want to see the flounce.

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I've been here as MontrealPhoenix, zephyr and
TheFireWithinMe.

I also have the sarcasm gene which is NOT to be taken seriously.

If you fall I'll always be there to catch you ~ Floor

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:14:32 PM   
GoddessManko


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ORIGINAL: LiveSpark

Well no. The more info we have the less a shot in the dark our advice is. In this case personally I would like more info before commenting. For example SinFix already commented on their only having been together 3 months and was (snarkily) told that they had known each other longer. Little is known but response is snark when someone gets it wrong due to lack of info. Personally I'd rather know the whole story than make a guesstimate.


Sorry to say, I think that would most assuredly only give "undesirables" ammo of "who dressed the sock", and chances are they would likely be incorrect.

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Happy consent is the name of the game. You are my perfect Mistress. - my collared.

http://submissivemale.blogspot.com/

The Bird of Hermes is my name, eating my wings to make me tame.

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:18:20 PM   
ExiledTyrant


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko


quote:

ORIGINAL: LiveSpark

Well no. The more info we have the less a shot in the dark our advice is. In this case personally I would like more info before commenting. For example SinFix already commented on their only having been together 3 months and was (snarkily) told that they had known each other longer. Little is known but response is snark when someone gets it wrong due to lack of info. Personally I'd rather know the whole story than make a guesstimate.


Sorry to say, I think that would most assuredly only give "undesirables" ammo of "who dressed the sock", and chances are they would likely be incorrect.


Which brings on another level... it's a sock. It's a sock giving very little info so the feedback isn't going to be very promising here. We could, conceivably, be more amiable towards a sock, not too many people would want to deal with the humiliation this could bring, but we don't have info, we were just handed our torches.

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:22:12 PM   
LiveSpark


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ORIGINAL: GoddessManko


quote:

ORIGINAL: LiveSpark

Well no. The more info we have the less a shot in the dark our advice is. In this case personally I would like more info before commenting. For example SinFix already commented on their only having been together 3 months and was (snarkily) told that they had known each other longer. Little is known but response is snark when someone gets it wrong due to lack of info. Personally I'd rather know the whole story than make a guesstimate.


Sorry to say, I think that would most assuredly only give "undesirables" ammo of "who dressed the sock", and chances are they would likely be incorrect.


Really? So we're just supposed to cross our fingers and hope we're giving the right advice when we don't have info to base the advice on? Sorry but no.

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I also have the sarcasm gene which is NOT to be taken seriously.

If you fall I'll always be there to catch you ~ Floor

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:24:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Livespark, you shall see that flounce..

Goddess.. advice is all grand but she didn't come her for advice, just to vent...

And now, with head up and chin set..

I bid this fine discussion a fond adieu... while I hold myself to standards on these forums, I digressed at what I feel is an attempt at validation and a pat on the head..

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RE: My Master Lied to Me - 1/1/2015 3:25:12 PM   
GoddessManko


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ORIGINAL: ExiledTyrant

Which brings on another level... it's a sock. It's a sock giving very little info so the feedback isn't going to be very promising here. We could, conceivably, be more amiable towards a sock, not too many people would want to deal with the humiliation this could bring, but we don't have info, we were just handed our torches.


LOL, well if she wasn't a faceless 57 year old Dom you mean?

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Happy consent is the name of the game. You are my perfect Mistress. - my collared.

http://submissivemale.blogspot.com/

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