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ThePrincessKali -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/10/2015 8:08:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: whitedragonX Oh its this thread again. I think being a money domme might be a real fetish but it's hard to tell everyone likes money. For being a pay pig it more than likely is a fetish idk. All I do is that I'm tired of seeing money dommes on this site. If I want to pay someone I'll just find a professional and pay for a session. I'm really tired of seeing dicks on this site. Every other profile pic is some guys dick in a chastity device or hanging out of a thong. Can we ban penises? If I wanted to see one I would go out and find some guy to show me his dick rather than browsing a FREE internet site that caters to people of all persuasions. Or I could just be a reasonable adult and understand that some people enjoy exposing themselves. Just because it's not my thing doesn't mean others are seeking it out. And I know that my personal opinion isn't the only one out there. So if I see a profile with something I'm not interested in, I simply click past it. Because I'm not a whiney complainer.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/10/2015 8:39:55 PM)
hahahaha snort hahahahaha Nothing around here ever changes does it? Oh, yeah, I'm back by the way. Took some time off for blah, blah, blah , who really cares. This topic is such a joke. Really, I just asked someone on the other side if I told him to would he send me money right now? Know why I did it? I wanted the guy to go away. I have, for years, watched guys do the whole "I'm so devoted thing" when we both know they are telling lies. Ask for money. It is a great way to make them piss off. By the way, don't get me wrong. If someone serves me. As in real life not net. I do control every aspect of their life. That includes their income. I don't for a moment get why this is ever really a conversation. My "kink" (one of them anyway) is total control. Get over it, move on, if it isn't your kink.....Yay for you but bugger off anyway. still love you and that evil smile R.S

ResidentSadist -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/13/2015 12:59:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain hahahaha snort hahahahaha Nothing around here ever changes does it? Oh, yeah, I'm back by the way. Took some time off for blah, blah, blah , who really cares. This topic is such a joke. Really, I just asked someone on the other side if I told him to would he send me money right now? Know why I did it? I wanted the guy to go away. I have, for years, watched guys do the whole "I'm so devoted thing" when we both know they are telling lies. Ask for money. It is a great way to make them piss off. By the way, don't get me wrong. If someone serves me. As in real life not net. I do control every aspect of their life. That includes their income. I don't for a moment get why this is ever really a conversation. My "kink" (one of them anyway) is total control. Get over it, move on, if it isn't your kink.....Yay for you but bugger off anyway. still love you and that evil smile R.S You always have my respect and love. So did the guy go away or is the check in the mail??? I understand controlling their life, dominating a person and their life... and their finances. It is the way I do it too. It is the whole wallet domination thing that throws me . . . if the wallet misbehaves do you spank it or the person who owns it? LOL

Lucylastic -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/13/2015 1:21:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain hahahaha snort hahahahaha Nothing around here ever changes does it? Oh, yeah, I'm back by the way. Took some time off for blah, blah, blah , who really cares. This topic is such a joke. Really, I just asked someone on the other side if I told him to would he send me money right now? Know why I did it? I wanted the guy to go away. I have, for years, watched guys do the whole "I'm so devoted thing" when we both know they are telling lies. Ask for money. It is a great way to make them piss off. By the way, don't get me wrong. If someone serves me. As in real life not net. I do control every aspect of their life. That includes their income. I don't for a moment get why this is ever really a conversation. My "kink" (one of them anyway) is total control. Get over it, move on, if it isn't your kink.....Yay for you but bugger off anyway. still love you and that evil smile R.S good to see you back MIP:)

MissImmortalPain -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/17/2015 12:55:52 PM)
Funny thing about that. I was in a ticklish mood so when he didn't msg me back ...I msged him. I "explained" to him that I didn't need or want his money. That I just wanted to know what his reaction would be. Then I wished him good luck in his search. He went away.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/17/2015 12:57:22 PM)
Good to be back, Lucy and good to see your butt again :P

TNDommeK -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/21/2015 7:11:55 PM)
MIP!!! Welcome back! Long time no see!!

NeedAWhirlie -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/26/2015 1:23:48 PM)
i'm new to the forums, but not to CS or D/s by any means (I say that wistfully from my perch of 39 years ha ha)... so please don't find me too presumptuous in adding my two cents here. I think it's fascinating that this topic caused such a stir in such a short timespan. First, MissImmortalPain, thank you! for saying so succinctly and perfectly what I was thinking. I don't know you or ResidentSadist, so i'm keeping myself reserved in manner. I also will confess I skipped over pages 3-15 (oh, I did catch the German bit), so I deeply apologize if i'm repeating something here or missed something critical that makes my post completely irrelevant. I'm curious, ResidentSadist, why the need for a DSM-approved definition of something someone calls a kink? I'm not going to defend from an APA perspective, because I couldn't. But I don't feel it's necessary. If I derive sexual pleasure from a certain "atypical" situation, I can call it my kink, yes? I agree that not all kinks, certainly, fall under the BDSM umbrella and sometimes it's eyeroll-provoking when BDSM seems to have gone mainstream hip and is completely misused. I think that's the case with the rise of financial domination- simple human exploitation for monetary gain. BUT, I can personally attest to the existence of financial domination as a sexual kink. So, I'll just go ahead and open up here, something in all the years of CS(fka CM) profile journal entries I've never shared... I do derive sexual pleasure at the thought of submitting financially. So i'm presenting the other side of this coin. Now- will I sign up for a "pay tax" with some of these FinDommes advertising online? No because it's not going to be a safe reality for me. But in my fantasies, that's another story and orgasms happen. I say this, as embarrassing as I find it (not in a kinky way) to admit at large, because while I might be in a small minority, it's not a minority of one. So for the others in a similar situation as mine, I wanted to start to break down the shame of it. That's why you don't see it in person, ResidentSadist- because it's hugely embarrassing and it's never welcomed, and worse, someone like you goes on a soapbox about how it can't be real. How could that make someone like me feel? Like hiding it away, away, away and highlighting only the "acceptable" BDSM kinks I have. You could meet me in person and never, ever know this about me, so you'd go on believing this kink is not real. So let me just clarify- no, I've never and I won't ever sign up to a FinDomme online to pay her just to pay her, but neither will I engage in any online D/s that I would consider a real relationship. But I have been in real-life D/s situations in which financial control and submission was one component of the relationship. Consensual and enjoyable. Anyway, to me it's just another aspect of ultimate control... thank you again, MissImmortalPain.

TNDommeK -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/27/2015 11:30:20 AM)
THAT! Was well written!

NeedAWhirlie -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/28/2015 7:59:20 PM)
Thank you for the compliment, TNDommeK. I guess the thread is dead lol But i'd really like to hear the OP's response to mine (and the supporters of same perspective of OP). oh well, I know how forum life can go...

crumpets -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/28/2015 8:19:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NeedAWhirlie I do derive sexual pleasure at the thought of submitting financially. Wow.

TNDommeK -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/28/2015 11:14:44 PM)
That's not really surprising to me, but then again, I am a fin Domme. So I see that a lot.

ThePrincessKali -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/29/2015 12:16:59 AM)
NeedAWhirlie thanks for sharing. I have had submissives that were into findom privately message me that they've agreed with what I said in regards to Findom on forum posts. However they were embarrassed to admit that they were finsubs on a public forum, for fear of being ridiculed. Thank you for having the guts to say what many haven't been able to say.

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/29/2015 4:40:24 AM)
Great to see you back your beauty!!

ChatteParfaitt -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/29/2015 4:42:45 AM)
OMG it's TN!! Hiyas <big wave> quote: ORIGINAL: TNDommeK THAT! Was well written! Yes it was.

NookieNotes -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/29/2015 4:48:38 AM)
slow clap Good for you, admitting this! Much respect.

Zonie63 -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/29/2015 9:45:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NeedAWhirlie I'm curious, ResidentSadist, why the need for a DSM-approved definition of something someone calls a kink? I'm not going to defend from an APA perspective, because I couldn't. But I don't feel it's necessary. If I derive sexual pleasure from a certain "atypical" situation, I can call it my kink, yes? I agree that not all kinks, certainly, fall under the BDSM umbrella and sometimes it's eyeroll-provoking when BDSM seems to have gone mainstream hip and is completely misused. I think that's the case with the rise of financial domination- simple human exploitation for monetary gain. I think that's what seems to be the biggest bone of contention. I can see that there would be some situations where financial domination can be a kink, particularly in a committed long-term relationship where all parties trust each other. I suppose just about anything can be made into a kink if one wants to. If a dominant tells his/her submissive to wash the dishes or clean the bathroom - maybe it's a kink or maybe it's just a necessary chore that needs to get done. It's the same for money. Everyone needs money; it's a necessary tool. So, maybe it's not the activity itself, but more the manner of how it is done. From what I've observed from reading threads on this topic, as the complaints about financial domination seem to have a common theme. It's not so much complaining about the fetish itself, but how it is done - the methods and processes involved, as implied by numerous profiles which also seem to have a common theme. Another observation I've had regarding discussions of this topic is that most people (on both sides) want to avoid mentioning the elephant in the living room: Money. Money usually tends to bring out the worst in people. If you look at history and the current state of the world, the fight over resources is a no-holds-barred affair where people are playing for keeps. Common perceptions of money have a strong emotional component that it certainly can be used to derive sexual pleasure and be a fetish. But that emotional component can also extend into other areas of life, and that's when the fireworks begin. I think that this point gets missed when the topic becomes compartmentalized and viewed strictly as a debate over whether it's "a kink" or "not a kink." I would say yes, it's a kink, but it's not just a kink. After all, we're talking about money here, and that's the real underlying issue.

Anchises -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/29/2015 11:59:55 AM)
Just a tactical question. When a thread has 16 pages, do newcomers actually read all 16 before posting? DISCLAIMER: I didn't read all 16 pages - I'm just curious who has that kind of mental fortitude.

NeedAWhirlie -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/29/2015 6:10:36 PM)
Thank you very much for the compliments, ThePrincessKali, ChatteParfaitt, and NookieNotes (love all your names, by the way also). To crumpets- So my first reaction to your, "Wow" was that it felt judgmental, but before I assume that with certainty, i'll give the benefit of the doubt that maybe you're completely shocked. In that case, I myself am surprised that anyone as aware enough of kink's existence to post on a board like this one would be wowed by my little kink lol Either way, it's that kind of reaction that keeps people from being open- and it's really not fair. Ok, not stealing the soapbox spot, so i'll stop... PrincessKali- thank you for sharing that input- I had that feeling, but it's good to read that confirmation about others. It really was, in fact, very hard to post this. There are a lot of other "atypical" situations that are sexual to me, so I know i'm marginal even to the margin of normal... so I usually keep it hidden and say what's "acceptable." Zonie63, you bring up some really good points- Your describing money as essential to life (a "necessary tool," as you put it) is the heart of this for me. I find that submitting (part of) a life-essential component is an ultimate act of control and humiliation. Just like giving up control over bathroom use and even breath, it offers the same level of utter submission to me. And that is really my kink. I think people are seeing it as an act of begrudging desperation on the part of the (male) sub and an act of slimy exploitation on the part of the FinDomme. I also wanted to offer a reassuring perspective by sharing a bit more about myself. I consider sex/ eroticism/ my kinks highly addictive. Will I cut myself off? Hell no! It would not work anyway and I would be a stellar recidivist. Instead, I make an effort to be careful and I've been really good at it, leaning heavily on the side of caution and only indulging in financial submission with money that I would have already set aside for my own "fun." And Anchises- no, I must confess I skipped about 3-15... ~whirlie girlie

MAINEiacMISTRESS -> RE: -=Money Pigs/FinDomery - real fetish or fake? (soapbox)=- (7/29/2015 6:24:30 PM)
Very well expressed, and very brave of you to admit all that on a public forum. Thanks for sharing that with us. quote: ORIGINAL: NeedAWhirlie i'm new to the forums, but not to CS or D/s by any means (I say that wistfully from my perch of 39 years ha ha)... so please don't find me too presumptuous in adding my two cents here. I think it's fascinating that this topic caused such a stir in such a short timespan. First, MissImmortalPain, thank you! for saying so succinctly and perfectly what I was thinking. I don't know you or ResidentSadist, so i'm keeping myself reserved in manner. I also will confess I skipped over pages 3-15 (oh, I did catch the German bit), so I deeply apologize if i'm repeating something here or missed something critical that makes my post completely irrelevant. I'm curious, ResidentSadist, why the need for a DSM-approved definition of something someone calls a kink? I'm not going to defend from an APA perspective, because I couldn't. But I don't feel it's necessary. If I derive sexual pleasure from a certain "atypical" situation, I can call it my kink, yes? I agree that not all kinks, certainly, fall under the BDSM umbrella and sometimes it's eyeroll-provoking when BDSM seems to have gone mainstream hip and is completely misused. I think that's the case with the rise of financial domination- simple human exploitation for monetary gain. BUT, I can personally attest to the existence of financial domination as a sexual kink. So, I'll just go ahead and open up here, something in all the years of CS(fka CM) profile journal entries I've never shared... I do derive sexual pleasure at the thought of submitting financially. So i'm presenting the other side of this coin. Now- will I sign up for a "pay tax" with some of these FinDommes advertising online? No because it's not going to be a safe reality for me. But in my fantasies, that's another story and orgasms happen. I say this, as embarrassing as I find it (not in a kinky way) to admit at large, because while I might be in a small minority, it's not a minority of one. So for the others in a similar situation as mine, I wanted to start to break down the shame of it. That's why you don't see it in person, ResidentSadist- because it's hugely embarrassing and it's never welcomed, and worse, someone like you goes on a soapbox about how it can't be real. How could that make someone like me feel? Like hiding it away, away, away and highlighting only the "acceptable" BDSM kinks I have. You could meet me in person and never, ever know this about me, so you'd go on believing this kink is not real. So let me just clarify- no, I've never and I won't ever sign up to a FinDomme online to pay her just to pay her, but neither will I engage in any online D/s that I would consider a real relationship. But I have been in real-life D/s situations in which financial control and submission was one component of the relationship. Consensual and enjoyable. Anyway, to me it's just another aspect of ultimate control... thank you again, MissImmortalPain.

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