tweakabelle
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
'Zionist' describes a particular sort of Jew with a particular sort of worldview. There's no necessary racist connotation. And, actually, since you made the allegation, I think *you* should be looking back in order to prove your point.
At bottom, I can't help thinking that you're simply assuming that someone like Tweakabelle has a view that's the 'flip side of your own coin': that is, you know you're racist in one way; therefore, you assume (or want to assume, or pretend to assume) that someone who opposes your position must be racist in the opposite way.
That's a false contrast and makes no sense. I can't speak for Tweakabelle but for me, for instance, there are two different outlooks involved here and the one outlook can't be reduced to the other. One outlook sees things in terms of 'Race X does these things because of their race; race Y does *those* things because of *their* race'. The other outlook sees things in terms of 'These people will do these things because of their greater political and economic power; those people will do *those* things because of their lesser political and economic power.
While agreeing with almost all of your post, there is one point where I am forced to disagree - where you state that a Zionist is "a particular sort of Jew with a particular sort of worldview". While most Zionists are Jewish, there are many Zionists who aren't Jews . When I use 'Zionist' I mean any person who adheres to "a particular sort of worldview" - the dominant ideology in Israel today, regardless of their religion or race or any other aspect of their personal background.
I choose to use the term specifically because it has no racial connotations, except apparently in the more paranoid recesses of Hunter's brain (such as that unenviable organ is). So, as is so often the case, Hunter couldn't possibly be more wrong.
It's sad that Hunter appears not to have read the link I supplied above from the Magnes Zionist blog. He might have learnt something useful. Here's just a small part of what the blog has to say about Hunter's wild and offensive allegations of anti-Semitism:
" [A]ll should condemn recent attempts in some quarters to brand these tactics as “anti-Semitic”. BDS is neither motivated by anti-Semitism, nor it is it, in effect, anti-Semitic. The “anti-Semitism” charge against BDS is false, intellectually lazy, and morally repugnant.
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The “Anti-Semitism“ Charge against BDS is Morally Repugnant. Anti-Semitism, like racism, is one our era’s “mortal sins”. To accuse a movement of anti-Semitism is not only to criticize or delegitimize it; it is to tar it as immoral. The BDS movement has been embraced, in part or in whole, by the overwhelming majority of the Palestinian people and its leadership. To label as “anti-Semitic” Palestinians and their supporters who are fighting for their rights using tried and true non-violent tactics is morally repugnant and itself represents a sort of bigotry. Moreover, in supporting the charge with insufficient evidence and sloppy arguments, one not only fails to establish one’s point; one trivializes and cheapens genuine anti-Semitism.
In short, the “anti-Semitism” charge against BDS is not only offensive to Palestinians; it is offensive to all those who reject anti-Semitism.
It should have no place in the ongoing, legitimate debate over BDS.
http://www.jeremiahhaber.com/2015/06/the-pro-palestinian-boycott-divestment.html (some emphasis added, some emphasis is in the original text.)
ETA: I strongly suggest you read the entire piece Hunter, and any one else who feels that political criticism of Israel is 'anti-Semitic'. There's a lot of wisdom there that you would do well to consider.
< Message edited by tweakabelle -- 6/12/2015 6:06:33 PM >
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