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If you or she, were actually concerned about a fair, non prejudicial debate, one, or both, of you would have said something to that idiot above discussing money lenders. But, you don't. More to the point why didn't you say anything? You are the one who has been throwing the anti-Semitic slur around liberally ever since you ran out of arguments a few pages ago. You are the one who has proclaimed himself judge and jury of all things anti-Semitic. Yet here was a blatant case of an ugly anti-Semitic comment and you ignore it - it doesn't matter to you. Why? Because there was no political criticism of Israel in the comment. You only use the anti-Semitic slur to slander people who make political criticisms of Israel after you have lost the argument. You use the slur cynically, and in doing so ignore and cheapen genuine anti-Semitism, as the Magnes Zionist blog I quoted above states. Sadly this is SOP for the Zionist lobby. There is a long history of Zionists resorting to abuse and slander when they lose the argument on these boards, usually hoping to get the thread closed down in order to spare themselves more humiliation. All this is crystal clear in the thread above. So for your education I am going to include another quote from the Magnes Zionist blog: "The “Anti-Semitism” Charge against BDS is Intellectually Lazy. One of the arguments for BDS’s alleged anti-Semitism is that in singling out Israel for moral opprobrium, the movement reveals its true motivation, which is hatred of the Jewish state, ergo Jews. This is the tired argument of all those who wish to deflect attention away from their own human rights violations. Similar arguments were made by South Africa in response to calls for divestment during the apartheid era; by the Soviet Union, in response to calls for sanctions during the struggle for Soviet Jewish rights; by some southern US states, in response to calls for integration during the civil rights movement. To expect of Palestinians and their supporters that they will devote more of their energies to human rights abuses that little concern them is morally unreasonable. It is also hypocritical, in so far as those who criticize the BDS movement usually devote more of their own energies to supporting Israel than to fighting human rights violations elsewhere in the world. By their example they undermine their own argument. Another argument is that the global BDS movement, in so far as it deals not only with Palestinian human rights violations in the Occupied Territories, but also calls for full equality for Israeli’s Palestinian citizens and recognition of the Palestinian right of return, wishes to delegitimize and destroy the State of Israel. And since the State of Israel understands itself as the expression of Jewish self-determination, the BDS movement is, in effect, if not by design, opposed to Jewish self-determination, ergo anti-Semitic. Yet this argument rest on a string of questionable assumptions. It concedes, unnecessarily, that the State of Israel can only survive if it foundationally discriminates against its non-Jewish citizens, or defies international recognition of the refugees’ right of return. It confuses criticism of Israel on these points with anti-Zionism, and anti-Zionism with anti-Semitism, all of which are distinct positions. As for the “delegitimization” charge: Israel is a member of the United Nations and recognized by many countries. Its political legitimacy is no more nor less than that of the United States, Germany, Russia, North Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran. But its moral legitimacy, like that of all states, rests on its adherence to human rights standards expected of all states. The final argument is that the BDS movement, while itself not anti-Semitic, has attracted supporters who are either motivated by anti-Semitism, or who use anti-Semitic stereotypes and tropes. But even conceding this point, similar things are true of the pro-Israel movement, which has attracted supporters who are Islamophobes, anti-Palestinianist, Nakba deniers, and advocates of Jewish spiritual and metaphysical superiority. Bigotry is, unfortunately, a common vice, and its manifestations are to be condemned. But just as opponents of BDS are not necessarily, or even mostly, anti-Palestinian bigots, so the proponents of BDS are not necessarily, or even mostly, anti-Israeli bigots, much less anti-Semitic. http://www.jeremiahhaber.com/2015/06/the-pro-palestinian-boycott-divestment.html Copy & paste propaganda is "intellectually lazy" Just sayin'
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