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ORIGINAL: SirMatty1

Sorry,

late on this, but why protect people who earn money by lending money?

Not sure they have ever done anything useful.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

"Israel finds Israel not guilty' was the headline in Ch 4 News. Ouch. Doesn't read well, does it?

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

"Israel finds Israel not guilty' was the headline in Ch 4 News. Ouch. Doesn't read well, does it?

It's a common fault yanno ..... most people can find reasons to find themselves not guilty for all kinds of things. They tell me the prisons are full of people who, on their own account are not guilty of whatever they were found guilty of ..... Even Hunter finds himself not guilty of racism would you believe?

On a more serious level, most people will remember the incident in question so I suppose they will be asking themselves: What do I believe? The IDF's excuses or the evidence of my own eyes?

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

From the Magnes Zionist's blog:
"The “anti-Semitism” charge against BDS is false, intellectually lazy, and morally repugnant.

The “Anti-Semitism” Charge against BDS is False. Anti-Semitism has been defined as “a prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as an ethnic, religious, or racial group”. Anti-Semitism is commonly considered a form of racism, in its broadest sense. By contrast, the BDS movement is a movement initiated by Palestinian civil society and its supporters to promote and defend the human, civil, and political rights of the Palestinian people living in Israel, the Occupied Territories, and the Palestinian diaspora, most notably the rights of liberty, equality, and self-determination. The movement comprises people of different creeds and nationalities, including Israelis and Jews, and explicitly condemns all forms of racism, including anti-Semitism. The BDS movement is in its essence a human rights movement, grounding its call on international human rights law, conventions, and decisions. It not only explicitly opposes anti-Semitism; it is diametrically opposed to it."
http://www.jeremiahhaber.com/2015/06/the-pro-palestinian-boycott-divestment.html ( emphasis in the original)

The way the charge of anti-Semitism is levelled by Israel's supporters as a tool to silence political dissent is very obvious even on this page. There is a post above that contains an ugly undertone of anti-Semitism but none of those who are so fond of loudly and repeatedly throwing the anti-Semitic card against political critics of Israel called that post for its anti-Semitism. So they ignore real anti-Semitism and only see anti-Semitism when there is political criticism of Israel.

Their behaviour is cynical and shameless. As the Magnes Zionist argues, such supporters are an embarrassment to the cause they espouse.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

From the Magnes Zionist's blog:
"The “anti-Semitism” charge against BDS is false, intellectually lazy, and morally repugnant.

The “Anti-Semitism” Charge against BDS is False. Anti-Semitism has been defined as “a prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as an ethnic, religious, or racial group”. Anti-Semitism is commonly considered a form of racism, in its broadest sense. By contrast, the BDS movement is a movement initiated by Palestinian civil society and its supporters to promote and defend the human, civil, and political rights of the Palestinian people living in Israel, the Occupied Territories, and the Palestinian diaspora, most notably the rights of liberty, equality, and self-determination. The movement comprises people of different creeds and nationalities, including Israelis and Jews, and explicitly condemns all forms of racism, including anti-Semitism. The BDS movement is in its essence a human rights movement, grounding its call on international human rights law, conventions, and decisions. It not only explicitly opposes anti-Semitism; it is diametrically opposed to it."
http://www.jeremiahhaber.com/2015/06/the-pro-palestinian-boycott-divestment.html ( emphasis in the original)

The way the charge of anti-Semitism is levelled by Israel's supporters as a tool to silence political dissent is very obvious even on this page. There is a post above that contains an ugly undertone of anti-Semitism but none of those who are so fond of loudly and repeatedly throwing the anti-Semitic card against political critics of Israel called that post for its anti-Semitism. So they ignore real anti-Semitism and only see anti-Semitism when there is political criticism of Israel.

Their behaviour is cynical and shameless. As the Magnes Zionist argues, such supporters are an embarrassment to the cause they espouse.

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BDS is racist at the core.

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Not a word. Not where your extreme hate and racism is focused...

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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BDS is racist at the core.

Balls. Only a fruitcake would believe that, Sanity.

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Not a word. Not where your extreme hate and racism is focused...

OK.

*Sigh*.

Just keep saying it, over and over and *over* again: "Tweakabelle is full of hate and racism". Who knows, maybe it'll work like a magic incantation borne of the Dark Side of the Force: if you keep saying it - or spitting it furiously, as you and others do, for preference, for ten years or more, it'll eventually come to be true, in some far-out and utterly fucked up sense of the word 'true'.

God your mind is *ugly*, Sanity.

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Well, actually, that's most of what you do. Except you use the code word "Zionist" instead of Jew so you can pretend you're not racist. We don't have to link posts. You can look back and see how many you've done.

So you havent got any actual links then ?

Of course he can't produce any links or point to a particular post to back up his false and offensive claims. He can't produce any evidence because there is no evidence. It doesn't exist. Hunter long ago ran our of any facts evidence or argument to support his position and is reduced to abuse and snark. I went back thru' his last 10 points and found not a a single relevant fact, argument or link - just irrelevance, snark and abuse. His bankruptcy mirrors that of the toxic apartheid regime he is trying to defend.

The irony/hypocrisy of a person defending the Israeli regime which practices ethnic cleansing and apartheid, two of the worst racist crimes going, alleging that critics of the Israeli regime are racist merely for criticising that regime is staggering. It makes their allegation meaningless, without any substance whatsoever. Anyone who defends an apartheid regime has lost the moral right to use the term 'racist' when they excuse or gloss over Israel's blatant racial segregation in the West Bank. The kindest explanation is that Hunter doesn't know what the term 'racism' means.

So we can add racism to the already long list of terms that Hunter uses while not knowing their meanings

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
OK.

*Sigh*.

Just keep saying it, over and over and *over* again: "Tweakabelle is full of hate and racism". Who knows, maybe it'll work like a magic incantation borne of the Dark Side of the Force: if you keep saying it - or spitting it furiously, as you and others do, for preference, for ten years or more, it'll eventually come to be true, in some far-out and utterly fucked up sense of the word 'true'.

God your mind is *ugly*, Sanity.

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But, you see, I don't tie tweak's hate and racism to this organization. I tie it to what she says. She's always hateful (full of hate) and it comes out so flagrantly when she's disparaging those crazy ol darn zionists.

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Most people will remember the shocking footage of 4 Palestinian children blown to bits by an Israeli missile while they were playing on the beach in Gaza during the Israeli assault on Gaza last year. In all, a total of 2,200 Palestinians were killed in the 50-day conflict, of whom 1,492 were civilians, 605 militants and 123 unverified (UN figures) while c 60 Israeli, mostly soldiers on combat duty perished.

An investigation by the IDF into the incident has found the incident was a "tragic accident" and the IDF bears no culpability for the deaths.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/11/israel-clears-military-gaza-beach-children

These 4 deaths are part of a total of over 1,500 Palestinian children killed by the IDF since 2000. I am only aware of one IDF member charged with an offence in relation to these deaths. There may be a few more prosecutions I haven't heard about. The accused IDF member was acquitted despite evidence showing he emptied a magazine into the prostrate body of the child from point blank range.

So it comes as no surprise to anyone that the IDF has found a way of absolving itself of any culpability in the deaths of these children. Many will question the integrity of the IDF investigating itself. No doubt many of us who recall the incident in all its graphic horror will have another opinion about the culpability of the IDF.

It's horrible stories like this that propel the BDS movement, and cause millions worldwide to support it.

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

May I take this opportunity to observe that you're a cretin, Sanity?

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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But, you see, I don't tie tweak's hate and racism to this organization. I tie it to what she says. She's always hateful (full of hate) and it comes out so flagrantly when she's disparaging those crazy ol darn zionists.

No, she isn't, Hunter. That's just your way of defending yourself as best you can - and I think you know it, deep down. Come on, man. This line is going to destroy this debate. Please don't pursue it any more.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity

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ORIGINAL: SirMatty1

Sorry,

late on this, but why protect people who earn money by lending money?

Not sure they have ever done anything useful.

You, tweaka, peon and "polite" will get along fine