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Nazi storm troopers block the entrance to a Jewish-owned store. Their signs read: "Germans, defend yourselves against the Jewish atrocity propaganda, buy only at German shops!" and "Germans, defend yourselves, buy only at German shops!"

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Sanity, the point of the quote is that it comes from a source that you cannot repudiate - the person who wrote it is a Zionist albeit a thinking and reasonable one unlike the Zionists posting here. And I note that you have no comment on the content of the quote.

He repudiates, in a calm and sensible fashion, the toxic lies that you and others have been spreading here because you cannot produce a counter argument to the many facts I have posted. So let's hear it if you have a counter to his argument. Or are you going to continue to rely on lies and abuse?

Is this lies? Abuse?
http://zeek.forward.com/articles/117084/

Here's just one example of lies and abuse I was referring to: "BDS is racist at the core. People like you who revel in anything that might harm the Jewish state are racists.", posted by Sanity. This kind of sickening crap is repeatedly posted by the likes of Sanity and Hunter to the exclusion of virtually everything else as a glance over the preceding pages will confirm.

You know perfectly well that the "lies" and "abuse" I was referring to are those posted previously on this thread, not some speech that hasn't been presented here, as the speech you quote from is. But thanks anyways for at least presenting a coherent argument. It has been a long time since anyone posting from the Zionist side has presented anything even vaguely resembling a coherent argument here. I hope the others adhere to the standard you have set.

One suspects that there is something wrong when far Right wing types like you present something coming from self styled 'progressive' sources. But, leaving that aside, let's examine Paiss' argument that BDS is at its core, anti-Semitic, and see if it is consistent with reality.

IF, and I stress if, it were the case that BDS is anti-Semitic, then it will be the case that BDS targets either Israeli or Jewish business either exclusively or predominantly. Some pages ago, I presented a list of Top 10 brands targetted by BDS published by the Christian Science Monitor.

Of the 10 brands, only 3 are Israeli - Sodastream, Ahava and Tiger/Sabra hummus. They are either located in Occupied Palestine or use produce of the Occupation in their products. The other 7 are multinationals - MacDonalds, Intel, Hewlett Packard, Volvo Group, Motorola, Pampers and Victoria's Secret. So the overwhelming majority of brands (7/10 or 70%) targetted by BDS are neither Israeli- or recognisably Jewish-owned or -operated. My guess is that more people would recognise them as American than anything else.

The primary criterion for targetting by the BDS movement is that the company must be profiting from the Israeli Occupation of Palestine. The religious/racial background of the owners or the location of its HQ is irrelevant. If it profits from the Occupation, then it's potentially a target. Thus the list above disproves the claim that BDS is anti-Semitic. As the Magnes Zionist blog confirms, " The “anti-Semitism” charge against BDS is false, intellectually lazy, and morally repugnant. It [BDS] not only explicitly opposes anti-Semitism; it is diametrically opposed to it." (my emphasis)

So Paiss' argument doesn't withstand scrutiny. The charge of anti-Semitism against BDS is demonstrably false. It is best considered alongside ex-Israeli Cabinet Minister Aloni's admission that "anti-Semitism" is a "trick we always use" to smear critics of Israel's indefensible Occupation of Palestine.

BDS is explicitly opposed to all types of racism especially anti-Semitism. (It would be nice if critics of BDS were the same, but defending ethnic cleansing and apartheid is an inherently and irreducibly racist stance. ) BDS targets business that profit from the Israeli Occupation of Palestine.

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Israel's Netanyahu says boycott efforts recall Nazi Germany

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Nazi storm troopers block the entrance to a Jewish-owned store. Their signs read: "Germans, defend yourselves against the Jewish atrocity propaganda, buy only at German shops!" and "Germans, defend yourselves, buy only at German shops!"

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Aren't we kinda sorta doing the same thing when it comes to Iran and Korea? Not that I disagree with our policy but it is no different is it?

Butch

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I certainly do not agree with many criticisms of Israel by tweak but I can see where many people would not agree with some of the policies of Israel. That does not make them anti-Jewish necessarily does it? I am a supporter of Israel in their fight against terrorism... but very much against their settlement policies. Otherwise i can see where fair minded people of differing opinions could join in this movement without being anti-Semitic.

Butch

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Why are there no boycotts of Islamic states for their apartheid like (and worse) treatment of Christians, women, and homosexuals etc. For their raining rockets down on civilian targets in Israel.

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But there are... US ...as i said the more pressure on both sides the better

Butch

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The Guardian again

How surprising

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Do you even know who Neve Gordon is

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Do you even know who Neve Gordon is

I'll have a guess

Someone who your favorite anti-Semitic far left propaganda spewing rag is all too pleased to give voice to?

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Sorry old troll, its already been established on this thread that your Guardian source is fishwrap

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It seems that the European consumers' boycott is hitting Israel hard:
"The European boycott campaign against the Israeli settlements' agricultural products caused Israel's economy a loss $6 billion in the years 2013 and 2014.

According to the data of the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics, obtained by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, the losses resulting from the boycott will rise to $9.5 billion by the end of this year.
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https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/europe/19237-settlements-lose-6bn-in-two-years-of-european-boycott

The losses to the Israeli economy from the European boycott of agricultural products alone cancel out the US's aid to Israel which is worth $3 billion annually. IIRC the EU is Israel's largest trading partner. Unless Israel changes its policies, it can be expected that these losses will only increase with time - it seems Israel anticipates agricultural losses growing by $500 million this year.

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It seems that the European consumers' boycott is hitting Israel hard:
"The European boycott campaign against the Israeli settlements' agricultural products caused Israel's economy a loss $6 billion in the years 2013 and 2014.

According to the data of the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics, obtained by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz, the losses resulting from the boycott will rise to $9.5 billion by the end of this year.
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https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/europe/19237-settlements-lose-6bn-in-two-years-of-european-boycott

The losses to the Israeli economy from the European boycott of agricultural products alone cancel out the US's aid to Israel which is worth $3 billion annually. IIRC the EU is Israel's largest trading partner. Unless Israel changes its policies, it can be expected that these losses will only increase with time as the boycott becomes more popular and widespread - it seems Israel anticipates agricultural losses growing by $500 million this year.

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They cant get away from you now