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A new model of the Sun’s solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun’s 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the ‘mini ice age’ that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno....
"We found magnetic wave components appearing in pairs, originating in two different layers in the Sun’s interior. They both have a frequency of approximately 11 years, although this frequency is slightly different, and they are offset in time. Over the cycle, the waves fluctuate between the northern and southern hemispheres of the Sun. Combining both waves together and comparing to real data for the current solar cycle, we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97%," said Zharkova....
Looking ahead to the next solar cycles, the model predicts that the pair of waves become increasingly offset during Cycle 25, which peaks in 2022. During Cycle 26, which covers the decade from 2030-2040, the two waves will become exactly out of synch and this will cause a significant reduction in solar activity. "In cycle 26, the two waves exactly mirror each other – peaking at the same time but in opposite hemispheres of the Sun. Their interaction will be disruptive, or they will nearly cancel each other. We predict that this will lead to the properties of a 'Maunder minimum'," said Zharkova
Source: Royal Astronomical Society
Good, now explain all of that to us....
We have known since at least 2005, the date of publication of the following study which appeared in the journal of the Italian Astronomical Society, that solar output is closely related to terrestrial global temperature variations, and please note that I didn't say anything about solar irradiance, sunspot numbers, or variations in the solar-wind, all of which, taken individually, have proven problematic as indicators.
From the Abstract:
We show that the index commonly used for quantifying long-term changes in solar activity, the sunspot number, accounts for only one part of solar activity and using this index leads to the underestimation of the role of solar activity in the global warming in the recent decades. A more suitable index is the geomagnetic activity which reflects all solar activity, and it is highly correlated to global temperature variations in the whole period for which we have data.
In Figure 6 the long-term variations in global temperature are compared to the long-term variations in geo-magnetic activity as expressed by the ak-index (Nevanlinna and Kataja 2003). The correlation between the two quantities is 0.85 with p<0.01 for the whole period studied.
But until now we have been unable to model these changes, and thus have had no way to predict them. From the original link:
It is 172 years since a scientist first spotted that the Sun’s activity varies over a cycle lasting around 10 to 12 years. But every cycle is a little different and none of the models of causes to date have fully explained fluctuations. Many solar physicists have put the cause of the solar cycle down to a dynamo caused by convecting fluid deep within the Sun. Now, Zharkova and her colleagues have found that adding a second dynamo, close to the surface, completes the picture with surprising accuracy.
With this newly discovered model delivering 97% accurate predictions, we are finally in a position to say with a high degree of scientific rigor that "Global Warming" in the coming decades is going to be cold.
Thanks for asking.
K.
Its funny (if not predictable), that you couldn't follow a simple little instruction.
We have known that the sun has more than one effect on the planet since well before 2005. Its called 'Physics'. At the very basic level: No Sun, No Life on Planet Earth. Or are you going to tell me that the 2nd law of thermodynamics came after 2005?
I didn't ask you to give me 'cut/paste' jobs. I asked you to explain it. Which you could not do.
You do not understand science at the basic level. Yet wish to sound intelligent and educated on an advanced subject. Do you have any clue just how badly your failing at that?
Your last 'scientific' observation is the biggest hint:
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With this newly discovered model delivering 97% accurate predictions, we are finally in a position to say with a high degree of scientific rigor that "Global Warming" in the coming decades is going to be cold.
Do you not think those whom study Climate Change, take the sun's effects into account when making observations? Or That since its a part of 'Astrophysics', it is beyond the realm of study or understanding of Climate Change?
Here is where knowledge meets your 'limited understanding':
Even if all that happens, Climate Change is...STILL....taking place here on Earth. That is because scientists, unlike you, take all things into consideration, from all disciplines. They test, retest, and test again. Sometimes over a period of years. Because they know if they publish their findings, people will test things for accuracy and evidence. That they will discuss how many things could effect something, and narrow down the list of possibilities. Scientists have done this with Climate Change. They even had long and intensive discussions on....HOW....it was taking place. This was done within the last 15-20 years. That the current discussion is 'what do we do about it?', that you are not understanding.
If you think the Theory of Climate Change is all bullshit, explain to me how the whole of the Internet operates scientifically. Go ahead. Since they both share many scientific understandings in common. If one is incorrect, the other is....ALSO....has to be incorrect. Likewise, if one is correct, the other is correct. That's how science works. The actual study of science does not care about petty politics like you do. That is why you'll never understand the advance stuff in science. A mole of H20 does not care if your conservative or liberal. Democrat or Republican. Nor does the Milky Way Galaxy.
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