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The Breaking of a Brat - 7/15/2015 8:55:45 AM

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I cannot fathom why a Dom would take on a brat and then proceed with attempts to exorcise such behavior. Why on earth do some Doms do this? You know what we are and what we do, if that was appealing to you when you took us on then, why has your opinion changed? Is the draw for you the challenge to turning your brat into a zombie? I simply cannot wrap my mind around it.

RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/15/2015 10:31:51 AM

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Because some see it as a "challenge"? Or that's what "true Doms" should do? I don't know...people are awfully strange sometimes.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/15/2015 10:41:12 AM

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I love taking on a cocky little bastard and bringing him to his knees. It's not that I want a zombie or a robot. More that I enjoy breaking in and taming something wild.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/15/2015 11:25:21 AM

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Perhaps you behaved better during the early days of dating so he really didn't know what he was getting into.

With that said, The Man enjoys some bratting, but only during the right time and place.

Nobody wants to have to chase their partner around with a crop to get a cup of coffee in the morning.

Talk to him. Ask him when it's okay and when it isn't. And to explain calmly when it's too much until you learn his lines.

If you can hold a job without telling your boss to go fuck himself, then you should be able to refrain from using such phrases at home.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/16/2015 8:27:46 AM

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Some like the reward. I was more a brat when my former came along. He changed it a lot but I'm still me

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/17/2015 8:26:49 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyOfLeisure3

I cannot fathom why a Dom would take on a brat and then proceed with attempts to exorcise such behavior. Why on earth do some Doms do this? You know what we are and what we do, if that was appealing to you when you took us on then, why has your opinion changed? Is the draw for you the challenge to turning your brat into a zombie? I simply cannot wrap my mind around it.

If what the involved parties find particularly erotic is the exertion, and relinquishing, of control, then a Dom might find it a satisfying expression of control to take a defiant brat and make him or her compliant. Conversely, that defiant brat may find it arousing to be controlled in spite of their resistance.

After all... how much control do you feel you have over someone if everything you demand of them is what they want to do anyway?

Doesn't seem like such a mystery to me.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/17/2015 10:23:32 PM

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After all... how much control do you feel you have over someone if everything you demand of them is what they want to do anyway?

Doesn't seem like such a mystery to me.

This can be true in a sense. What some people do not know that there is a lot of exersion in bringing the brattiness of the person to a stop. Mentally it can go on for ages and if not years, but why use the mentality to waste on the person when you can use the mental strength in guiding the person to be better and stronger themselves. There is the time as well, braking down the brat is time involved. You can use the time in better ways, like planning for the holiday that you want to take the other on, planning just the weekend ahead, planning to go to a wedding.

I myself will not want to spend the time, money, mentality on someone that might get off on being the brat 80% of the time. If the brat comes out every month or 6 months or so to just spawn some harsh, prime evil type of session, then that is cool. I would want to waste the effort in doing something positive for the both of us, then for the brat to be just doing it for their own satisfaction.

That is how I see it.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/18/2015 2:49:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyOfLeisure3

I cannot fathom why a Dom would take on a brat and then proceed with attempts to exorcise such behavior. Why on earth do some Doms do this? You know what we are and what we do, if that was appealing to you when you took us on then, why has your opinion changed? Is the draw for you the challenge to turning your brat into a zombie? I simply cannot wrap my mind around it.

I've not met an intelligent woman who does not want to be subdued before submitting. Unless the Dom wants easy picking robot zombie girl then "brats" go with the territory. I once asked an alpha woman why alphas give us such a hard time. Her immediate answer was "because we can!" spoken with that twinkle in a woman's eyes when they are falling for a guy and her resistance phase is over.

So difficulties are what one must expect when obtaining that which is worth having.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/18/2015 5:18:59 PM

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That's the way, LadyOfLeisure3. I can be a brat, a really bad one. I don't want to be and I give my master the ways and means to make me toe the line.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/18/2015 7:03:09 PM

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I've not met an intelligent woman who does not want to be subdued before submitting. Unless the Dom wants easy picking robot zombie girl then "brats" go with the territory. I once asked an alpha woman why alphas give us such a hard time. Her immediate answer was "because we can!" spoken with that twinkle in a woman's eyes when they are falling for a guy and her resistance phase is over.

So difficulties are what one must expect when obtaining that which is worth having.

Exactly.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/18/2015 8:12:01 PM

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Because they think you are secretly trying to trick them, you can't actually be happy and fun... people aren't supposed to enjoy life. You are supposed to be miserable like them.

Just ignore those people, it gets old really fast... and it wont end, it will continue to escalate. Find someone that wants to be happy.

A challenge is only worth it if it leads to something better.

-one of dem brats

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/18/2015 8:49:39 PM

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I love taking on a cocky little bastard and bringing him to his knees. It's not that I want a zombie or a robot. More that I enjoy breaking in and taming something wild.

J, I'm curious. If what you enjoy is the breaking and taming, then aren't you bored after when he is tamed? If so, does this mean your relationships are always short lived?

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/18/2015 9:18:05 PM

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ORIGINAL: JVoV

I love taking on a cocky little bastard and bringing him to his knees. It's not that I want a zombie or a robot. More that I enjoy breaking in and taming something wild.

J, I'm curious. If what you enjoy is the breaking and taming, then aren't you bored after when he is tamed? If so, does this mean your relationships are always short lived?

That's not all that I enjoy. And I don't always go for the bad boys. If I get past the 2nd 'date', I'm in for the long haul.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 1:28:16 AM

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I find the verbiage of "brat" to be subject to interpretation.

I think it can mean someone is indeed a petulant type looking for attention or it can mean you are dealing with a smart, spirited woman who likes to be overpowered and inspired.

There is a big difference. And the right Dom will appreciate that in the right sub.

It can also be said that some men automatically say "brat" if a woman is the slightest bit challenging in initial chats.

To me, those men are not worth my time.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 7:22:17 AM

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In my personal view, I use two different words for those others may see as "brats."

Brats: Actually resist doing as they are told, wanting to be forced to submit.

Smart Ass: Talks all manner of sass, but does as told. Sassing is usually to get some attention/engagement/punishment.

I don't do brats. I LOVE LOVE LOVE smart asses, and enjoy molding them.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 7:29:43 AM

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i think many doms see "brats" as a wilderness to be conquered. i dont say that negatively - people have their own preferences. but what i would say to you is, were you clear about the fact that you would like to stay a brat even after you are "owned" ? forgive my presumptions but it seems there was a bit of a communication gap there.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 7:35:50 AM

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actually I see brats as litle more than pains in the ass and not worth the s in sub. Few brats have I actually gotten along with. I'm not fond of spoiled twats

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 8:18:21 AM

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That seems like a good example to me of how those words can be really not useful.

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Brats: Actually resist doing as they are told, wanting to be forced to submit.

Smart Ass: Talks all manner of sass, but does as told. Sassing is usually to get some attention/engagement/punishment.

You see, I love to be forced to submit (by and to my master, not anybody else!) but challenging him would be inappropriate beyond the scope of punishment.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 8:53:33 AM

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In my personal view, I use two different words for those others may see as "brats."

Brats: Actually resist doing as they are told, wanting to be forced to submit.

Smart Ass: Talks all manner of sass, but does as told. Sassing is usually to get some attention/engagement/punishment.

I don't do brats. I LOVE LOVE LOVE smart asses, and enjoy molding them.

Lots of people do not see the difference between the two. When I first started in all of this, started meeting people at munches events, talking to them online and such, I initially identified as a brat sub because of what I know about my personality and what others saw as well. I am a smartass. I always have been and I own it. I am intelligent, independent, and I can hold my own against most anyone. That doesn't mean that I am always like that, but I am considered challenging by more than a few men.

So people told me I was a brat and I went with it. That was all before I started actually being intimate with people as a sub. Once I found myself in those situations, I found I had no desire to disobey, or openly challenge them, or any of that. If I found someone that tugged at my submissive side, I was generally still a smartass and playful, which they loved. And I was still playfully challenging with them, which is part of what made me attractive to them. But I wanted to submit to them and I didn't pretend otherwise. I am strong-willed, but once I see that someone can handle that, then they get a part of me that no one in my vanilla life would ever believe existed.

I no longer identify as a brat, just as a smartassed woman who also happens to be submissive. My smartassness (yes, I just made that word up) is not a part of my submission. But a lot of people don't understand that. So they just assume that all women like that are spoiled twats.

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RE: The Breaking of a Brat - 7/19/2015 8:54:39 AM

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actually I see brats as litle more than pains in the ass and not worth the s in sub. Few brats have I actually gotten along with. I'm not fond of spoiled twats

So just out of curiosity, what would you call a male who was seen as a brat?

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