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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/3/2016 6:38:54 AM   
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Can anyone tell us finally what is wrong with using a private server? Rice did it, W did it, Cheney did it, Harry 'closeted' Gowdy does it, Jason 'the shill' Chaffetz does it, Powell did it....



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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/3/2016 6:41:00 AM   
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She has a D to suffer for...oh and a vaj....and the GOP has 30 years of impotence in evidentiary collection

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/3/2016 6:53:59 AM   
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You think that they'd be a bit less shrill at the moment if Bill had let Starr have sloppy seconds with Monica, then?

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/3/2016 8:20:04 AM   
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https://www.rawstory.com/2016/11/witness-trump-also-raped-12-year-old-and-used-her-disappearance-to-threaten-another-victim/

Oh no nutsuckers!!! America is kicking you out of the closet and all your lies.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/3/2016 8:43:13 AM   
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"FBI Sources: Clinton Server Hacked By 'At Least Five' Foreign Intel Agencies, Two Major Federal Probes Ongoing"

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UPDATE - These extraordinary developments broke last evening, as Americans were gearing up for a thrilling World Series finale. I'll hand things over to Fox News anchor Bret Baier and let him deliver one bombshell after another over two clips, the first from Special Report, then an On the Record follow-up -- during which the prospect of future indictments is floated, and the hacking details are revealed (confirming what other top officials had long suspected). Baier's information comes via a pair of FBI sources with "intimate knowledge" of the bureau's concurrent, ongoing criminal investigations into both Hillary Clinton's national security-compromising email scheme and the Clinton family foundation. Wow:

Real Clear Politics has a strong summary of the key revelations from Baier's two well-placed sources. Any one of them would be significant, if taken in isolation. Considered together, this is very serious stuff -- and some of it goes directly to the heart of the questions raised in the original post below:

(1) The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far and has been going on for more than a year.

(2) The laptops of Clinton aides Cherryl Mills and Heather Samuelson have not been destroyed, and agents are currently combing through them. The investigation has interviewed several people twice, and plans to interview some for a third time.

(3) Agents have found emails believed to have originated on Hillary Clinton's secret server on Anthony Weiner's laptop. They say the emails are not duplicates and could potentially be classified in nature.

(4) Sources within the FBI have told him that an indictment is "likely" in the case of pay-for-play at the Clinton Foundation, "barring some obstruction in some way" from the Justice Department.

(5) FBI sources say with 99% accuracy that Hillary Clinton's server has been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that information had been taken from it.

Somewhat lost in the angry controversy over the FBI's renewed email probe based on new evidence is the revelation that contrary to Mrs. Clinton's assertions, the bureau has been investigating the Clinton Foundation for quite some time. That matter has torn the FBI and Justice Department asunder, with some officials insisting that the case is weak and unworthy of additional resources, while agents on the ground allege that their efforts are being stymied by higher-ups with a political agenda. We highlighted the Wall Street Journal's original scoop on this front, which confirmed largely-forgotten whispers about an active Clinton Foundation probe.

Writing at National Review Online, former federal prosecutor Andy McCarthy -- whose professional friendship with James Comey and firsthand insights into such matters render his analysis uniquely valuable -- is shocked by the Journal's report. His full, deep-dive piece is worth a careful read, but I'll amplify some key points. McCarthy notes that investigating agents were "dissatisfied" by Brooklyn-based US prosecutors' denial of access to Clintonworld's virtual correspondence, contained on non-government computers seized in the email scandal investigation. When they asked to reiterate their request with another prosecutor, they were denied by Andrew McCabe (whose potentially problematic connection to the Clintons' political universe we detailed here). McCabe told them that they couldn't go "prosecutor shopping." But why might those agents have been fully justified in seeking a 'second opinion,' so to speak, in this case? McCarthy explains:

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Readers are unlikely to know that the Eastern District of New York in Brooklyn is not just any United States attorney’s office. It is the office that was headed by Attorney General Loretta Lynch until President Obama elevated her to attorney general less than two years ago...When we learn that Clinton Foundation investigators are being denied access to patently relevant evidence by federal prosecutors in Brooklyn, those are the prosecutors — Loretta Lynch’s prosecutors — we are talking about...As I have detailed, it was already clear that Lynch’s Justice Department was stunningly derelict in hamstringing the bureau’s e-mails investigation. But now that we know the FBI was simultaneously investigating the Clinton Foundation yet being denied access to the Clinton e-mails, the dereliction appears unconscionable. It had to be screamingly obvious that the Clinton State Department e-mails, run through a server that also supported Clinton Foundation activities, would be critically important to any probe of the Foundation.


Loretta Lynch has proven herself to be irreparably compromised as a partisan actor throughout this imbroglio. Federal investigators were reasonably pursuing relevant evidence, and hoped that permission on that front would be granted or denied by attorneys who did not owe their careers to Ms. Lynch. "Clearly, that is why agents on the FBI’s Clinton Foundation team wanted to get their investigation out of the EDNY’s clutches and move it to the U.S. attorney’s office in the Southern District of New York (my office for many years, as well as Jim Comey’s). The SDNY has a tradition of relative independence from the Justice Department and a well-earned reputation for pursuing political-corruption cases aggressively — a reputation burnished by U.S. attorney Preet Bharara’s prosecutions of prominent politicians from both parties," McCarthy writes. They were shot down by McCabe. As for the importance of the potential evidence being sought, McCarthy elaborates:

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While Clinton may not have been motivated to harm our national security, she was precisely motivated to conceal the corrupt interplay of the State Department and the Clinton Foundation. That was the real objective of the home-brew server system: Mrs. Clinton wanted to shield from Congress, the courts, and the public the degree to which she, Bill, and their confederates were cashing in on her awesome political influence as secretary of state. That is exactly why she did business outside the government system that captures all official e-mails; and, critically, it perfectly explains why she deleted and attempted to destroy 33,000 e-mails — risibly claiming they involved yoga routines, Chelsea’s wedding, and the like. While knowing the purpose of the private server system may not advance our understanding of the classified-information offenses, it greatly advances our understanding of the scheme to make the Clinton Foundation a State Department pay-to-play vehicle. Consequently, the Clinton e-mails generated in the course of this scheme are apt to be highly probative of public-corruption offenses.


This is common sense. Nevertheless, due to the unusual web of immunity-related side deals struck during the email probe, agents looking into the foundation were turned away. "Those emails were given to the FBI based on grants of partial immunity and limited-use agreements, meaning agents could only use them for the purpose of investigating possible mishandling of classified information," the Journal reported. McCarthy argues that this is crazy -- that the generous immunity deals should have been avoided in the first place via binding subpoenas (ascertained in a grand jury investigation, which theDOJ refused to pursue), and that even so, the immunity deals should only cover the two Clinton aides involved, and only apply to the email probe. Nevertheless, foundation-inspecting agents kept running into bureaucratic brick walls, fueling resentment and a sense that the Justice Department was protecting the Clintons. Is that conspiratorial thinking along the lines of Democrats' now-common smear that Comey is trying to tip the election to Trump? Not if you factor in the "very pissed off" phone call McCabe received from a DOJ honcho when he discovered the Clinton Foundation probe hadn't been shut down, or the fact that top Lynch deputy was apparently emailing "heads up" tip-offs about upcoming developments to Clintonite (and current campaign chair) John Podesta from his personal account...

Before you go, read Allahpundit taking Obama to the woodshed over his decision to reverse course and shiv James Comey after all. His riff on the "norms" Obama selectively insists be respected is quite scathing.


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2016/11/03/former-federal-prosecutor-why-did-doj-limit-and-discourage-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe-n2240856

before you get your panties in a bunch over another "oh no comrades, townhall" source---note its an amalgamation from fox (oh no!), real clear politics, the wall street journal, and the national review.

on another hand, either way, you know I just cant find this information on www.ihaveahardonforhillary.com so instead of griping about the source, deal with the content.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/3/2016 8:58:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

"FBI Sources: Clinton Server Hacked By 'At Least Five' Foreign Intel Agencies, Two Major Federal Probes Ongoing"


you mean hacked just like the NSA does/did?

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/3/2016 9:01:57 AM   
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Obama joked that his phone is made for 2 year old. Nothing works in it, except emails. Everything is blocked and too dangerous for him to use!

But with Hillary phone!!! They are gonna have to disable emails too!

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/3/2016 9:06:24 AM   
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"FBI Sources: Clinton Server Hacked By 'At Least Five' Foreign Intel Agencies, Two Major Federal Probes Ongoing"


So, given the fact that this is an amalgamation of factless nutsucker slobber blogs, why did it take the FBI forensics experts so long to break in when they had the physical possession of the server and advanced tools that could be dedicated to it, and still are unsure if they have all the emails according to nutsuckers.....and why havent they been plastered all over the net by the rapist Assange and gargleffer?

Who are all the FBI sources and why havent they quit, given the investigation is over in 6 days.

Not happening and nobody knows.

Because it is felchgobbling nutsuckers is why.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 1:19:23 AM   
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"ACLJ Sues DOJ Over Secret Loretta Lynch-Bill Clinton Meeting"

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Now facing a federal lawsuit, Attorney General Loretta Lynch is going to have to shed light on her secret meeting with Bill Clinton just days before deciding Hillary Clinton’s fate.

The meeting, which took place in June on a private plane in Phoenix, Arizona, lasted 30 minutes. Lynch claimed the meeting was social and the two discussed grandchildren, their travels, and golf, but only days later James Comey announced the FBI would not be recommending criminal charges against the former secretary of state over her email scandal.

The American Center for Law and Justice filed a federal lawsuit against the DOJ on Wednesday to get more details about the meeting. The move comes after the ACLJ filed Freedom of Information Act requests, which went nowhere.

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The ACLJ said it had already filed freedom of information requests to the Obama Justice Department and the FBI asking for details on the meeting. It said the FBI had acknowledged the request and agreed to expedite its processing, but the Justice Department had remained silent.

Lynch's department said July 7 that it was formally closing its Clinton probe - largely a formality after Comey said the FBI was not pressing charges.

But now the ACLJ is demanding all messages that Lynch or her coworkers may have reviewed mentioning the rendezvous, names of everyone at the DOJ who has discussed the meeting, and any discussions about the press in relation to it, among other details.


“This Administration has gone out of its way to hide information from the American public – information that is extremely troubling,” Jay Sekulow, Chief Counsel of the ACLJ, said in a statement.

“The stakes are high. The American people deserve a Justice Department with integrity.”


http://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2016/11/03/aclj-sues-doj-over-secret-loretta-lynchbill-clinton-meeting-n2240942

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 4:51:48 AM   
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LOL. Listen to the felchgobblers of the night, what gargling music they make.

How many agents are quitting today?


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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 9:46:08 AM   
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interesting article from Wa Post

The election is just five days away, and something truly frightening is happening, something with far-reaching implications for the immediate future of American politics. Republicans, led by Donald Trump but by no means limited to him, are engaging in kind of termite-level assault on American democracy, one that looks on the surface as though it’s just aimed at Hillary Clinton, but in fact is undermining our entire system.

I know, my conservative friends will say that this kind of talk is just fear-mongering and exaggeration. But there is something deeply troubling happening right now, and it goes beyond the ordinary trading of blows in a campaign season. Consider these recent developments:

There appears to be a war going on inside the FBI, and from what we can tell, a group of rogue agents, mostly in New York, may be in such a fervor to destroy Hillary Clinton that they may be aggressively leaking damaging innuendo to the press against her in the waning days of the campaign. They succeeded in their apparent goal of making FBI director James Comey a tool of their campaign — and the basis for their investigation is an anti-Clinton book written under the auspices of an organization of which the CEO of the Trump campaign is co-founder and chairman. Pro-Trump FBI agents now seem to be coordinating with Trump surrogates to do maximal possible damage to Clinton.

Republicans continue to cheer the fact that the electronic systems of American political groups were illegally hacked, and then private communications were selectively released in order to do damage to one side in this election. The Republican nominee has explicitly asked a hostile foreign power to hack into his opponent’s electronic systems.
High-ranking Republican officeholders are now suggesting that they may impeach Clinton as soon as she takes office. These are not just backbench nutbars of the Louie Gohmert variety, but people with genuine power, including Ron Johnson, the senator from Wisconsin, Michael McCaul, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, and veteran legislators like James Sensenbrenner and Peter King. The message is being echoed by top Trump surrogates like Rudy Giuliani.

There is a growing movement among Republicans in the Senate to simply refuse to approve any nominee appointed by a Democratic president to the Supreme Court, leaving open any and all vacancies until a Republican can be elected to fill them.
State and local Republican officials are engaged in widespread and systematic efforts to suppress the votes of African-Americans and other groups likely to vote disproportionately Democratic; in many cases officials have been ordered by courts to stop their suppression efforts and they have simply ignored the court orders.
Republican elected officials increasingly feel emboldened to openly suggest violence against Clinton should she be elected.
[The only way Trump can win]

It is important to understand that is not normal. This is not just bare-knuckle politics. Something extraordinary is happening.


The Post’s Rosalind Helderman breaks down the latest developments of the controversies involving the FBI less than a week from Election Day. (Bastien Inzaurralde/The Washington Post)
Let’s take the FBI case as just one example. You have a situation where a group of FBI agents is in direct conflict with prosecutors who believe the agents have a weak case in their attempt to find evidence of corruption that can be used against Clinton. The agents, in an atrocious violation of FBI policy against injecting the Bureau into an election, begin leaking dark innuendo to reporters. That convinces the FBI director that he has no choice but to go public with the fact that the Bureau is looking at some emails that might or might not have something to do with Clinton, though no one has actually read them. That news lands like a bombshell, despite its complete lack of substance.

And then it turns out that these agents are basing their investigation on a book called “Clinton Cash” by Peter Schweizer. Schweizer is the president of the Government Accountability Institute, an organization co-founded and chaired by Steve Bannon. Who is the CEO of the Trump campaign.

While the “imagine if the other side was doing this” argument can sometimes sound trite, in this case it’s more than apt. Imagine if a group of FBI agents were leaking damaging information on Donald Trump in violation of longstanding departmental policy, and it turned out that they were basing their innuendo on a book published by the Center for American Progress, which Clinton campaign chair John Podesta founded and used to run. Republicans would be crying bloody murder, and I’m pretty sure the entire news media would be backing them up every step of the way.


It’s not that this kind of thing is completely unprecedented. When Bill Clinton was impeached, people talked about “the criminalization of politics” — the idea that Republicans were trying to use the levers of the justice system as a means to prevail in what should be just ordinary political competition. George W. Bush’s administration fired a group of U.S. Attorneys because they were unwilling to pursue bogus voter fraud cases against Democrats or were too willing to investigate genuine corruption among Republican officials. There are cases like the absurd prosecution of former Alabama governor Don Siegelman, who has been in jail for years because he reappointed to a state health care board a man who had donated money to a lottery initiative Siegelman favored. And there was this guy named J. Edgar Hoover.

But as he has in so many ways, Donald Trump takes every ugly impulse Republicans have and turns it up to 11, and just about the entire party follows him down. So now they are making it very clear that from literally the day Hillary Clinton is inaugurated, they will wage total war on her. There will be no rule or norm or standard of decency they won’t flout if it gets them a step closer to destroying her, no matter what the collateral damage.


It’s important to understand that strong institutions are what separate strong democracies from weak ones. In a strong democracy, one party can’t come into power and just lock up its opponents. It can’t turn the country’s law enforcement agencies into a partisan tool to destroy the other party. It can’t say that the courts will function only at its pleasure. We have the world’s most stable system not just because there aren’t tanks in the streets on election day, but because we have institutions that are strong enough to restrain the venality of individual men and women. And now, Republicans are not even pretending that those institutions should be impartial and transcend partisanship. They’re saying, if we can use them to destroy our opponents, we will. Something is seriously breaking down.

And please, spare me any explanations for this phenomenon that rely on how “divided” Americans are. Are we divided? Sure. But there’s only one party that is so vigorously undermining core democratic institutions in this way. You may not like what Democrats stand for, but they aren’t engaging in widespread official vote suppression, chanting that should their candidate win her opponent should be tossed in jail, promising to prevent any Republican president from filling vacancies on the Supreme Court, suggesting that they’ll try to impeach their opponent as soon as he takes office, cheering when a hostile foreign power hacks into American electronic systems, and trying to use the FBI to win the election.

Only one party is doing all of that. And we should all be very worried about what Republicans will do after November 8, whether they win or lose.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/11/03/republicans-are-now-vowing-total-war-and-the-consequences-could-be-immense/?utm_term=.ba57f76ae868&wpisrc=nl_most-draw6&wpmm=1


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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 6:00:58 PM   
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http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_CLINTON_EMAILS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

(AP) -- The State Department on Friday released a 2009 email chain that shows then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton forwarding to her daughter material that the department classified last year.

At issue is a December 2009 email that President Barack Obama's trade adviser, Michael Froman, sent to senior White House and State Department staff members. After it made its way up to Clinton, she sent it to "Diane Reynolds," an email pseudonym for Chelsea Clinton.

"See below," Clinton told her daughter. The entire email chain has been blacked out on confidential grounds, the lowest level of classification.


Nothing to see here folks. Clinton didn't do it. Her server must have had a system glitch or something. LOL

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 6:09:35 PM   
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You are absolutely right KenDckey, nothing to see here, America forbids ex-post facto shit in the constitution. They were not classified at the time, and more than likely shouldnt be now.



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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 6:23:50 PM   
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You are absolutely right KenDckey, nothing to see here, America forbids ex-post facto shit in the constitution. They were not classified at the time, and more than likely shouldnt be now.




Yup it didn't defy EO 13526

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information

Which directly relates to the Secretary of State

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 6:25:26 PM   
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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 9:24:32 PM   
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You are absolutely right KenDckey, nothing to see here, America forbids ex-post facto shit in the constitution. They were not classified at the time, and more than likely shouldnt be now.




Yup it didn't defy EO 13526

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information

Which directly relates to the Secretary of State

You are correct. It didnt even break the faith of the EO policy. Good one on you, you got one right, again.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/4/2016 10:22:13 PM   
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You are absolutely right KenDckey, nothing to see here, America forbids ex-post facto shit in the constitution. They were not classified at the time, and more than likely shouldnt be now.




Yup it didn't defy EO 13526

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information

Which directly relates to the Secretary of State

You are correct. It didnt even break the faith of the EO policy. Good one on you, you got one right, again.

Yeah she didn't diseminate classified information by POTUS to others either in violation of the EO Not possible. POTUS was all wet to consider it classified even tho we don't know what it said.

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/5/2016 5:08:53 AM   
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You are absolutely right KenDckey, nothing to see here, America forbids ex-post facto shit in the constitution. They were not classified at the time, and more than likely shouldnt be now.


except for that's liberal subterfuge vile critter parts and that shows either your poor moral character in participating, or your inability to learn and discern. I suspect both.

being in the position she was, Clinton was responsible for recognizing the nature of material as classified or not, regardless of its markings.

also, never mind the material she sent that WAS marked classified at the time. you know, the ones in which she claimed "c" stood for the 3rd paragraph? so she's a liar, or incompetent too. the answer is both.

so again, if you were a student, youd fail, if this were your job, youd be fired.

you really should give up on this and spend more time on your day job.




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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/5/2016 6:01:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

You are absolutely right KenDckey, nothing to see here, America forbids ex-post facto shit in the constitution. They were not classified at the time, and more than likely shouldnt be now.




Yup it didn't defy EO 13526

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-classified-national-security-information

Which directly relates to the Secretary of State

You are correct. It didnt even break the faith of the EO policy. Good one on you, you got one right, again.

Yeah she didn't diseminate classified information by POTUS to others either in violation of the EO Not possible. POTUS was all wet to consider it classified even tho we don't know what it said.

what did potus consider it classified even though we dont know what it said?

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RE: Hillary Probed - 11/5/2016 6:09:23 AM   
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You are absolutely right KenDckey, nothing to see here, America forbids ex-post facto shit in the constitution. They were not classified at the time, and more than likely shouldnt be now.


except for that's liberal subterfuge vile critter parts and that shows either your poor moral character in participating, or your inability to learn and discern. I suspect both.

being in the position she was, Clinton was responsible for recognizing the nature of material as classified or not, regardless of its markings.

also, never mind the material she sent that WAS marked classified at the time. you know, the ones in which she claimed "c" stood for the 3rd paragraph? so she's a liar, or incompetent too. the answer is both.

so again, if you were a student, youd fail, if this were your job, youd be fired.

you really should give up on this and spend more time on your day job.




No, cockgargler44 I expect it shows your retardation, as well as your obvious lack of morals and your extreme shiteating, you cannot cogitate, form logical factual argument, and if you were on trial you would be shot, if you were a public speaker you would be derided.
c in the third paragraph is meaningless. something that was unclassified in 2009 that is classified in 2015 by someone who knows? some minor nutsucker functionary in the office of toiletlickers at state?
no ex post facto in this country. And you will not that the SoS is the classification authority and by god, she was the SoS.

Well you have shitlicked yourself into another moral corner dogshit44.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/ClosureOfGuantanamoDetentionFacilities

Lets gather all those nutsuckers up there in the legislature and have them swing from the scaffolds at Washington Monument reflection pool, oi? They have not closed Gitmo in direct defiance of the Presidents order.

Lets let the felchers swing in the breeze. They already give rise to a great stench in this nation.

you were a student, you failed miserablyprior to graduating grammar school, paid nutsucker troll is your job, you should be fired, you are so inept as to be profoundly retarded and morally bankrupt, but it breaks your circlefelch. Thats how you end up with guys like Trump, to lose with.

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