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Thegunnysez -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:10:46 AM)

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I don't feel like playing the games they had us play at work today, and I sure am not playing them here.
You tell me.


I don't know, that is why I asked.





Thegunnysez -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:14:59 AM)

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Illegals tho should be mine field finders fighting ISIS


Are their any other misdemeanors to which you would like to attach that penalty?




Thegunnysez -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:18:38 AM)

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Feathers his nest by helping the Democrats flood the job market with cheap, unskilled labor

Must really hate poor Americans


Do only Democrats employ illegal aliens?




Thegunnysez -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:23:29 AM)

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He makes his living from helping illegals stay in the country, pretending there is no difference between legals and illegals is part and parcel of his song and dance.


I think many have pointed out in the past that a person is innocent until proved guilty in the U.S.. If guilt were assessed by accusation then there would be no need for lawyers...perhaps lawyers are another of those "necessary evils"




KenDckey -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:23:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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Feathers his nest by helping the Democrats flood the job market with cheap, unskilled labor

Must really hate poor Americans


Do only Democrats employ illegal aliens?

Naw I am sure rep do too.

How about we invoke civil forfeture laws on the wages and property of illegals? Although I am generally not in favor of the laws, I think it would be nice to have them help cover expenses of trial and deportation. It would also put the burden of proof on the illegals to prove they are us citizens and therefore the monetary gains made are legal.




Thegunnysez -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:47:15 AM)

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How about we invoke civil forfeture laws on the wages and property of illegals?


How would a civil forfeiture law be utilized against someone who has committed a misdemeanor?
Now had you suggested that venue for the employers of illegals that might make more sense both legally and economically. As has been shown above the fine for employing illegals is by the each and at $5/10 K each that can get a little pricey. If it is shown that it is an ongoing pattern then RICCO comes to play and all the assets of the corp and the principals can be seized.
Do you think that if the law were enforced that anyone would hire an illegal? If the illegals cannot find work they will go home at their own expense.


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Although I am generally not in favor of the laws, I think it would be nice to have them help cover expenses of trial and deportation.


If we spend the court time on the employers there would be no need to use court time to deport illegals.




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It would also put the burden of proof on the illegals to prove they are us citizens and therefore the monetary gains made are legal.


In the U.S. it is always the states burden to prove guilt. It is never the defendants burden to prove innocence.
If they are earning the money at a legal occupation it is legally theirs. What you are saying would be like taking someone's paycheck because they had a misdemeanor traffic ticket.




Sanity -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:47:15 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

All this coming from the backwater uninformed inbred. Man sanity you are sure funny to watch, you're like a child throwing a hissy fit every time I see a post. For a moron who loves to call others trolls and claim they're making ad Hominems against you, you seem to not grasp the concept of "practice what you preach". Oh well, on the bright side I love Neanderthals like yourself, you make the world so much more entertaining as you flounder around angry and confused, so thanks for that [:D]


You idiot trolls keep trying to claim I am all of that and more, yet you follow me around like I keep fucking your girlfriends like you can only wish you knew how




Marini -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:49:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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I don't feel like playing the games they had us play at work today, and I sure am not playing them here.
You tell me.


I don't know, that is why I asked.


Has anyone figured out who is the new sock here?
I doubt he will tell us, all he seems to do is come here out of nowhere, and repeat the same mantra.




Sanity -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:53:25 AM)


Pretty obvious that its ThompsonX, dear




Marini -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:53:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Thegunnysez

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Feathers his nest by helping the Democrats flood the job market with cheap, unskilled labor

Must really hate poor Americans


Do only Democrats employ illegal aliens?


Of course not!
No one loves illegal immigrants more than large corporations/big business.
Isn't it easier to find/keep cheap labor, then have to pay people a living wage?

Isn't it easier to break down and bust up unions?
Come on now.
Am I the only one here old enough to remember George Bush?
GWB was a large supporter of illegal immigrants.
In fact the entire Bush family.
Come on people.

I don't have time to play right now, I will be back to refresh the memories some of those around here with memory loss.
[8|]
No ONE loves illegal immigration more than the status quo, that is why FOX news hates Trump.
Republican mantra 10 years ago "We need illegal immigration to come here and do the jobs Amerikans will not do!"--GWB
Anyone with a few brain cells realizes illegal immigration has been supported by BOTH sides.
Peace




Thegunnysez -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 5:58:39 AM)

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you follow me around like I keep fucking your girlfriends like you can only wish you knew how


A mans preferences are necessarily his own but when would a man have had time to learn to have sex with women who has made claims of constantly "wrasslin" with barnyard animals?




Tkman117 -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 6:15:43 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

All this coming from the backwater uninformed inbred. Man sanity you are sure funny to watch, you're like a child throwing a hissy fit every time I see a post. For a moron who loves to call others trolls and claim they're making ad Hominems against you, you seem to not grasp the concept of "practice what you preach". Oh well, on the bright side I love Neanderthals like yourself, you make the world so much more entertaining as you flounder around angry and confused, so thanks for that [:D]


You idiot trolls keep trying to claim I am all of that and more, yet you follow me around like I keep fucking your girlfriends like you can only wish you knew how


LOL, oh poor baby, did you get your feelings hurt? And this is a forum dumb ass, I can read whatever posts I want and reply however I want to. You're the inbred with the least brain cells on this site, so of course it's fun to point it out when you start going into troll mode. I mean, I love how you say I'm the troll and yet you said this pretty much unprovoked: "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe". If that's not how a troll acts then I dont know what does, but then again you call anyone trolls who dont agree with your narrow minded view of the world, dont you little man? [;)]




Sanity -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 6:25:38 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

All this coming from the backwater uninformed inbred. Man sanity you are sure funny to watch, you're like a child throwing a hissy fit every time I see a post. For a moron who loves to call others trolls and claim they're making ad Hominems against you, you seem to not grasp the concept of "practice what you preach". Oh well, on the bright side I love Neanderthals like yourself, you make the world so much more entertaining as you flounder around angry and confused, so thanks for that [:D]


You idiot trolls keep trying to claim I am all of that and more, yet you follow me around like I keep fucking your girlfriends like you can only wish you knew how


LOL, oh poor baby, did you get your feelings hurt? And this is a forum dumb ass, I can read whatever posts I want and reply however I want to. You're the inbred with the least brain cells on this site, so of course it's fun to point it out when you start going into troll mode. I mean, I love how you say I'm the troll and yet you said this pretty much unprovoked: "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe". If that's not how a troll acts then I dont know what does, but then again you call anyone trolls who dont agree with your narrow minded view of the world, dont you little man? [;)]


Feelings hurt?

In your dreams... [:D]

The best any of you losers can do to "win" a debate is attempt these pathetic personal attacks, derail these threads into your grade school name calling. Like thats a substitute for mature discussion of relevant facts

Seriously... Makes you out to be exactly that which you accuse me of being





Tkman117 -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 6:35:29 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

All this coming from the backwater uninformed inbred. Man sanity you are sure funny to watch, you're like a child throwing a hissy fit every time I see a post. For a moron who loves to call others trolls and claim they're making ad Hominems against you, you seem to not grasp the concept of "practice what you preach". Oh well, on the bright side I love Neanderthals like yourself, you make the world so much more entertaining as you flounder around angry and confused, so thanks for that [:D]


You idiot trolls keep trying to claim I am all of that and more, yet you follow me around like I keep fucking your girlfriends like you can only wish you knew how


LOL, oh poor baby, did you get your feelings hurt? And this is a forum dumb ass, I can read whatever posts I want and reply however I want to. You're the inbred with the least brain cells on this site, so of course it's fun to point it out when you start going into troll mode. I mean, I love how you say I'm the troll and yet you said this pretty much unprovoked: "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe". If that's not how a troll acts then I dont know what does, but then again you call anyone trolls who dont agree with your narrow minded view of the world, dont you little man? [;)]


Feelings hurt?

In your dreams... [:D]

The best any of you losers can do to "win" a debate is attempt these pathetic personal attacks, derail these threads into your grade school name calling. Like thats a substitute for mature discussion of relevant facts

Seriously... Makes you out to be exactly that which you accuse me of being




I'm not even trying to win a debate, it's just fun to point out your idiocy. You say I derail the thread into grade school name calling, and yet no one forced you to say: "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe". I know you miss being the big bad bully back in elementary school, but seriously, you should have at least learned over all these years to take responsibility for your own actions. I love how you think "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe" is somehow "mature discussion of relevant facts", I mean how stupid are you? Not to mention, I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just shining some light on the fact that you're a hypocrite. I dont call people trolls while dropping trollish lines like "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe" and claim I'm not a troll. I know when I'm trolling, although right now I'm simply stating the facts that you're a hypocritical idiot, and I doubt many people on the left and right would be able to disagree [;)]




KenDckey -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 8:57:15 AM)

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Gunny
How would a civil forfeiture law be utilized against someone who has committed a misdemeanor?


The police use it against the innocent to take their money and possessions on mere suspession so it would apply to those that are breaking the law as well. The innocent have to pay money to lawyers to get even a portion of it back if they do at all. So why not




Sanity -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 11:21:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: Tkman117

All this coming from the backwater uninformed inbred. Man sanity you are sure funny to watch, you're like a child throwing a hissy fit every time I see a post. For a moron who loves to call others trolls and claim they're making ad Hominems against you, you seem to not grasp the concept of "practice what you preach". Oh well, on the bright side I love Neanderthals like yourself, you make the world so much more entertaining as you flounder around angry and confused, so thanks for that [:D]


You idiot trolls keep trying to claim I am all of that and more, yet you follow me around like I keep fucking your girlfriends like you can only wish you knew how


LOL, oh poor baby, did you get your feelings hurt? And this is a forum dumb ass, I can read whatever posts I want and reply however I want to. You're the inbred with the least brain cells on this site, so of course it's fun to point it out when you start going into troll mode. I mean, I love how you say I'm the troll and yet you said this pretty much unprovoked: "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe". If that's not how a troll acts then I dont know what does, but then again you call anyone trolls who dont agree with your narrow minded view of the world, dont you little man? [;)]


Feelings hurt?

In your dreams... [:D]

The best any of you losers can do to "win" a debate is attempt these pathetic personal attacks, derail these threads into your grade school name calling. Like thats a substitute for mature discussion of relevant facts

Seriously... Makes you out to be exactly that which you accuse me of being




I'm not even trying to win a debate, it's just fun to point out your idiocy. You say I derail the thread into grade school name calling, and yet no one forced you to say: "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe". I know you miss being the big bad bully back in elementary school, but seriously, you should have at least learned over all these years to take responsibility for your own actions. I love how you think "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe" is somehow "mature discussion of relevant facts", I mean how stupid are you? Not to mention, I'm not accusing you of anything, I'm just shining some light on the fact that you're a hypocrite. I dont call people trolls while dropping trollish lines like "he is so stupid that its amazing that he remembers to breathe" and claim I'm not a troll. I know when I'm trolling, although right now I'm simply stating the facts that you're a hypocritical idiot, and I doubt many people on the left and right would be able to disagree [;)]


Here's the difference, john

You and your little friends, practically all you do is make personal attacks

It's all you are capable of

You wail and gnash your teeth because others post facts

Derail the threads, like you are doing right now

And you really believe it passes for intelligent debate

I post relevant nt news articles, once in a while kick one of you mindless little trolls in the teeth

That's the difference

And now I am done participating in your derail




KenDckey -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 11:24:44 AM)

https://www.facebook.com/FunniestEverVideos/videos/778777315529819/?fref=nf

Love the school recording




Sanity -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 11:27:17 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


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ORIGINAL: BamaD

He makes his living from helping illegals stay in the country, pretending there is no difference between legals and illegals is part and parcel of his song and dance.


Feathers his nest by helping the Democrats flood the job market with cheap, unskilled labor

Must really hate poor Americans

Only the white ones.


Actually, no

He is like planned Parenthood, a regular wrecking ball against the black population

Black Unemployment Nearly Double National Rate, Twice As High As White Unemployment


You can lay much of the unrest in Baltimore directly at cloudboys feet, due to the work that he does increasing black unemployment there




Tkman117 -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 1:01:15 PM)

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Here's the difference, john

You and your little friends, practically all you do is make personal attacks

It's all you are capable of

You wail and gnash your teeth because others post facts

Derail the threads, like you are doing right now

And you really believe it passes for intelligent debate

I post relevant nt news articles, once in a while kick one of you mindless little trolls in the teeth

That's the difference

And now I am done participating in your derail


That's fucking rich, omg sanity you have literally blown past hypocrite to full on retard, and you should never go full retard ;) seriously sanity, you make more personal attacks and snide remarks than anyone here. The "news articles" you post hardly news, they're typically of the conspiracy theory fear mongering variety. You ignore sound logic and science in exchange for your deluded world view, so why would people ever take you seriously? You say it's derailing the topic, I agree, but it wouldn't happen if you weren't acting like a hypocritical troll. If you had a single ounce of decency in your body, you'd find more people would be willing to have a civilized conversation with you. But no, you have this god complex that you're perfect and that it's everyone else with the problem. You're a narrow minded old fuck who's only use to the world is to provide an example of what kind of person you want to avoid becoming in the future. That and comic relief, because I personally find you more comical than annoying. Keep it up, you just make the right wing look less and less appealing to more reasonable folk. But I agree, back on topic, you've had enough reality thrown in your face for one day[;)]




DesideriScuri -> RE: Trump's Immigration Plan (8/21/2015 1:41:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
that about this guys...plan???
Iowa host talks up slavery for undocumented immigrants
As the race for the Republican presidential nomination continues, the right’s anti-immigration rhetoric is growing louder and more ferocious. It’s hard not to wonder, is there some kind of ceiling? Will we soon reach the limit on conservative extremism?
I can’t answer that with confidence, but I certainly hope that pro-slavery arguments represent the right-wing cliff.
[J]ust this week, Media Matters reported that well-known conservative radio host Jan Mickelson said that any undocumented immigrant that does not self-deport by a certain time-frame should become “an asset of the state.”
“Well, I think everybody would believe it sounds like slavery?” said one listener who called in to challenge Mickelson.
“Well, what’s wrong with slavery?” he responded.
This is, alas, quite real. Earlier this week, Mickelson, an influential conservative in Iowa, told his radio audience that he has a bold, new plan to deal with undocumented immigrants. Under the host’s vision, those who don’t deport themselves voluntarily after 60 days’ notice would automatically become “property of the state” and forced into “compelled labor.”
That labor would include – you guessed it – building a wall along the U.S./Mexican border.
“We will compel your labor,” Mickelson said. “You would belong to these United States. You show up without an invitation, you get to be an asset. You get to be a construction worker.”
When a listener raised the question of slavery, the radio host not only asked “Well, what’s wrong with slavery?” he soon after added, “You think I’m just pulling your leg. I am not.”
Yesterday, Mickelson talked to Media Matters and described his plan as “constitutionally defensible, legally defensible, morally defensible, biblically defensible and historically defensible.”
Despite the fact that Mickelson said on the air that he wasn’t kidding, when Media Matters asked if he expected GOP candidates to agree with his plan, the host replied, “[M]ost of them would understand my point isn’t serious, the point is philosophical.”
I’m not altogether sure what that means. Mickelson supports the philosophy of enslaving undocumented immigrants?
To be sure, there are all kinds of radio hosts who make all kinds of radical comments every day. Most are worth ignoring. But let’s not overlook this key detail from the Media Matters report:
Mickelson has a history of making racially-charged, anti-immigrant remarks but he also has a strong pull with conservative caucus voters in Iowa. His influence is so big that he recently hosted several 2016 GOP candidates on his show, including Carly Fiorina, Rick Santorum, and Ben Carson during their visits to the Iowa State Fair. After Mickelson defended his immigrant-slave plan, Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI) appeared on his show.
The host boasted on Twitter yesterday that he’s spoken to “everyone” in the Republican presidential field except Jeb Bush.


Good fucking Lord, are there some stupid haters out there. Sheesh!

Lucy, I think this guy has earned "lunatic" status.




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