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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 10:51:43 AM   
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figures from 7 pm today

20 000 arrived here yesterday and today (some hundreds still on trains on the way at this time until midnight CEST)

the 800 000 is realistic for the year 2015

the majority of refugees does not appear radicalized - the majority is families, women, children

they appear just happy to have survived

the "radicalized" usually are adolescent and post-adolescent males with adrenaline overdose - world wide

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 10:52:28 AM   
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Well they have already done that I believe...and this is a big risk to take on...I may be mistaken but i believe NorthernGent thinks this risk to be acceptable... We took in 50,000 Muslim refugees in my town and so far they have been great... revitalized a part of town deserted because of crime... but there have been a few radicals arrested. So there will be infiltrators no doubt.

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 10:56:07 AM   
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• GWB signed the order for US troop withdrawals.

• After the blackwater fiasco, the IRAQIs wanted the USA out.

• IRAQ would not offer US soldiers immunity.

• Americans did not want US troops in IRAQ in perpetuity.

• $1 Trillion Dollars was poured down the drain into a bottomless sinkhole. Millions of people have been displaced.

• Patreus bought the peace with payoffs.

• GWB installed an anti-Sunni Prime Minister.

• The whole thing was a house of cards.

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 10:59:16 AM   
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Typically new arrivals work harder than established residents. What do you think has propelled the USA for so many years? Hungry, driven, appreciative immigrants.


Work harder at what? Filling out applications for food stamps?

They dont typically have any meaningful skills, and they tend to exacerbate the unemployment situation for the poor who are already there and struggling

quote:

...the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers.


Multiply that by hundreds of thousands and pretty soon you are talking about a very expensive vote buying program that hurts the poor and only benefits the Democrat party

The illegals are happy because they get all of the free government shit that the Dems use to buy their votes

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 10:59:38 AM   
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From what I read, the middle class has decided to leave Syria.

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:00:31 AM   
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cloudboy unlike what you may think I believe immigration is what made America great... Imagine the strength of the gene pool of people that had the fortitude to take their families... leave everything behind... and travel thousands of miles into the unknown for a new life.

Even today the illegal aliens only coming here for work and citizenship for their children are of this stock...I never blame them.... just the people hiring them. That is why I am against a wall but for severe penalties for business that hire them illegally.

But there comes a time, especially in a bad economy, when it is hard enough to employ and take care of your own where it is perfectly reasonable and responsible to deny immigration at least until better times.

Butch

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:01:15 AM   
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Any small chance of furnishing any of your posts with the occasional fact at all, Sanity?

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:02:20 AM   
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You are less than zero in knowledge, history, facts, and figures. Take your ugly, bad posting elsewhere.


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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:03:23 AM   
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quote:

But there comes a time, especially in a bad economy, when it is hard enough to employ and take care of your own where it is perfectly reasonable and responsible to deny immigration.


On the other hand, sometimes huge numbers of extra hands are needed for a massive building project - like Trump's wall. Now wouldn't *that* be an irony? *Cackle*

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:07:45 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: cloudboy

• GWB signed the order for US troop withdrawals.

• After the blackwater fiasco, the IRAQIs wanted the USA out.

• IRAQ would not offer US soldiers immunity.

• Americans did not want US troops in IRAQ in perpetuity.

• $1 Trillion Dollars was poured down the drain into a bottomless sinkhole. Millions of people have been displaced.

• Patreus bought the peace with payoffs.

• GWB installed an anti-Sunni Prime Minister.

• The whole thing was a house of cards.


Barack Obama gushed about how stable Iraq was when he assumed control.

Things in Iraq were so going so well in 2010 Biden claimed that Iraq would be 'One of the Great Achievements' of Obamas Administration

As the victors we held the trump card. Obama OBVIOUSLY withdrew faster than he should have, and then he refused Iraqi requests for assistance vs. ISIS

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:08:02 AM   
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Bad Peon Bad....Part of our problem is that we have plenty of hands... just not enough work to occupy them... And when our young men and women apply for roofing... lawn maintenance...hamburger flipping... janitorial work... all that is left after industry moved out of the country... they find illegals have filled theses jobs because they will accept less pay then minimum wage....and beside lip service our Republican congress, and state legislatures will do nothing about it.

Butch

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:09:39 AM   
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Well, fuck it. Trump looks as though he's got big hands and I hear that likes to use them a lot - he can build the whole damned thing himself.

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:10:14 AM   
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Any small chance of furnishing any of your posts with the occasional fact at all, Sanity?


Any chance of knuckle-dragging little leftist trolls addressing the topic of a post rather than obsessing over other posters



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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:12:06 AM   
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You are less than zero in knowledge, history, facts, and figures. Take your ugly, bad posting elsewhere.



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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:13:01 AM   
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This is why Trump is popular right now...many believe at least he will try to do something besides give lip service... but of course they are wrong... But I place no faith in Democrats either... what is needed is me.

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:19:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Sanity


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Any small chance of furnishing any of your posts with the occasional fact at all, Sanity?


Any chance of knuckle-dragging little leftist trolls addressing the topic of a post rather than obsessing over other posters




Let me get this straight: we have here a situation of *you* telling *me* to stick to the topic?



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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:21:41 AM   
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a press release from yesterday:
apparently among the refugees having arrived over the last weeks there is a significant proportion of medical doctors. Since many rural regions esp in eastern Germany suffer from a shortage of MDs for a few years there have been suggestions to give them accelerated work permits. I personally would not take that too seriously with the paperwork involved even with validitation of medical diplomas in mind, but it shows that there is some potential and meaningful skills in refugees

I know a place where a cure for narratophilia seems to be in demand

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:37:02 AM   
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a press release from yesterday:
apparently among the refugees having arrived over the last weeks there is a significant proportion of medical doctors. Since many rural regions esp in eastern Germany suffer from a shortage of MDs for a few years there have been suggestions to give them accelerated work permits. I personally would not take that too seriously with the paperwork involved even with validitation of medical diplomas in mind, but it shows that there is some potential and meaningful skills in refugees

I know a place where a cure for narratophilia seems to be in demand


What percentage are doctors. What are their skill levels. And Doctors arent in demand in Syria, and Iraq?

In Mexico?

You want us to believe, without providing a citation, that most refugees fleeing Obamas' criminal mishandling of Iraq, every illegal alien who Obama is inviting to come into the USA, are highly skilled technicians of one sort or another

(And that word, narratophilia, obviously doesnt mean what you think it means)

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 11:45:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph

a press release from yesterday:
apparently among the refugees having arrived over the last weeks there is a significant proportion of medical doctors. Since many rural regions esp in eastern Germany suffer from a shortage of MDs for a few years there have been suggestions to give them accelerated work permits. I personally would not take that too seriously with the paperwork involved even with validitation of medical diplomas in mind, but it shows that there is some potential and meaningful skills in refugees

I know a place where a cure for narratophilia seems to be in demand


What percentage are doctors. What are their skill levels. And Doctors arent in demand in Syria, and Iraq?

In Mexico?

You want us to believe, without providing a citation, that most refugees fleeing Obamas' criminal mishandling of Iraq, every illegal alien who Obama is inviting to come into the USA, are highly skilled technicians of one sort or another

(And that word, narratophilia, obviously doesnt mean what you think it means)



could anyone show me the words "most", "every," "illegal alien," "Obama," "USA," in that post of mine?

just wondering ...

since I hardly know what others think I think ...
I ll take this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narratophilia

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RE: Heartbreaking -- Drowned Syrian Boy -- Whole Family... - 9/6/2015 2:46:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: blnymph

could anyone show me the words "most", "every," "illegal alien," "Obama," "USA," in that post of mine?

just wondering ...

since I hardly know what others think I think ...
I ll take this one:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narratophilia


From your own link:

quote:

Narratophilia is a sexual fetish, in which the telling of dirty and obscene words or stories to a partner is sexually arousing.[1][2] The term is also used for arousal by means of listening to obscene words and stories.[1]


So why dont you share with us who is telling you the sexy stories on here, that are making your panties all wet


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