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thompsonx -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/13/2015 12:26:33 PM)
ORIGINAL: ifmaz ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: ifmaz It was a bad idea then and it's an even worse idea now regardless of who proposes it. Hitler did not think it was a bad idea. Show me a racist bigot who is not on board with this idea. I double dawg dare you. Increasingly, if Greta supports something you can be assured it's a dumb idea. Or just a flat out lie.

Politesub53 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/13/2015 4:00:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 FR i don't watch Hannity, so I didn't see this live, but just saw it online: "Imam Explains Why He Agrees With Trump's Ban on Muslims Entering the U.S." quote: On "Hannity" tonight, a Muslim imam explained why he actually agrees with Donald Trump's proposed ban on Muslims entering the U.S. Imam Nidal Alsayyed, religious director of the Islamic Society of Triplex in Houston, Texas, told Sean Hannity that Trump is concerned about Muslims and Islam being associated with radical terror groups. Alsayyed said it's a "very wise move" to take safety and security measures, including putting a temporary hold on Muslim immigration, until we have figured out what's going on. http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/12/09/imam-explains-why-he-agrees-trumps-ban-muslims-entering-us-hannity excuse the sarcasm----gee, maybe he's racist and islamophobic too? or maybe Islam's version of an "uncle tom?" This Iman has been forced to resign over his comments, so it is hardly the mainstream Muslim view.

Politesub53 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/13/2015 4:01:51 PM)
For those who wonder what the innocent Muslims are doing. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34902694

Politesub53 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/13/2015 4:05:06 PM)
A British soldiers view on Muslims. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-35054442

littleclip -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/13/2015 4:14:49 PM)
trump is just a big idiot and should be just ignored

Politesub53 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/13/2015 4:15:26 PM)
FR....... So how would Trumps ban on all Muslims being stopped from entering the US work in practice ? What about all the Muslims who havee had dealings helping the US. Or those who are some of your biggest trading partners. (Trumps cretinous view of the most westernised and the richest of the Saudi Princes is laughable) What about the tourists ? Cruz has spoken out against Trumps views but he is only trump light himself. I am guessing Ted is positioning himself to grab any of Trumps supporters once he is out of the race.

Greta75 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 2:14:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ifmaz Ironically, these same people would probably not take issue should Christian law take over the country. I would oppose any religious law taking over any countries.

Greta75 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 2:16:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 oh, he is not against Muslims that arent in the US, of course not!.. (duh) He's a money slut and will sell to anyone if they have the cash... He still doesnt want them in his country... If he does not want muslim into the country, he should be kicking out American Muslims. All his saying is, ban foreign born Muslims. His okay with the raise in american and born in America ones. Because Foreign Born Muslims aren't raised with American values.

Greta75 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 2:23:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 So how would Trumps ban on all Muslims being stopped from entering the US work in practice ? I will have to admit that he has a lousy plan to identify Muslims. He says, immigration just have to ask them if they are Muslim. If they say no, they are not, they are allowed through. He doesn't understand that real terrorist Muslims will lie that they are Muslims especially if their plot is to infiltrate and kill. So with this plan, he haven't come up with a feasible solution to implement it yet. Personally, I would simply issue strict visa requirements to people from muslim countries. And extensive background check on each individual needs to be carried out, before approving their visas for entry. But the problem with that is, the expense and the resources, and also co-operation of THAT Muslim country to share data of their citizens. The spouse visa needs to be looked at too, and I know they are doing it now. As this californian terrorist muslim woman posted supporting ISIS crap on social media, before her entry into the US was approved. The checks have failed. It could been outdated the way they conduct it. They should simply ban any Muslims who post on the internet any support for Muslim terrorists group for a start. I think that will be fair. If they support ISIS, they support the destruction of America, they shouldn't be allowed in. Can the banks be forced by laws to track down any donation of money to terrorist organizations too? People who donated money to their cause should be banned too.

thompsonx -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 8:15:34 AM)
ORIGINAL: Greta75 I would oppose any religious law taking over any countries. Some morons will always think it is their business to tell other countries what they should or should not do. Why do you think it is your perview to do so? You do not seem to have any problem with the "nazi religion" taking over in singapore.

Greta75 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 8:44:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx ORIGINAL: Greta75 I would oppose any religious law taking over any countries. Some morons will always think it is their business to tell other countries what they should or should not do. Why do you think it is your perview to do so? You do not seem to have any problem with the "nazi religion" taking over in singapore. Nazi Religion is based on Christianity. So no, Radical Christianity has not taken over Singapore yet. Anyway, you hate our Nazi-like Leader so much, but he had more integrity than your government. http://singapore.coconuts.co/2015/03/24/lee-kuan-yew-once-uncovered-cia-plot-turned-down-33m-bribe-and-embarassed-us Actual New York Times Article Here

tj444 -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 11:00:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 oh, he is not against Muslims that arent in the US, of course not!.. (duh) He's a money slut and will sell to anyone if they have the cash... He still doesnt want them in his country... If he does not want muslim into the country, he should be kicking out American Muslims. All his saying is, ban foreign born Muslims. His okay with the raise in american and born in America ones. Because Foreign Born Muslims aren't raised with American values. The male terrorist in California was American born.. and raised with American values.. that didnt stop him from becoming a terrorist, did it? Where exactly should he be kicking out American Muslims to??? they are born in America, there is no fucking country to send them to.. the US is stuck with them..

BamaD -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 11:50:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 So how would Trumps ban on all Muslims being stopped from entering the US work in practice ? I will have to admit that he has a lousy plan to identify Muslims. He says, immigration just have to ask them if they are Muslim. If they say no, they are not, they are allowed through. He doesn't understand that real terrorist Muslims will lie that they are Muslims especially if their plot is to infiltrate and kill. So with this plan, he haven't come up with a feasible solution to implement it yet. Personally, I would simply issue strict visa requirements to people from muslim countries. And extensive background check on each individual needs to be carried out, before approving their visas for entry. But the problem with that is, the expense and the resources, and also co-operation of THAT Muslim country to share data of their citizens. The spouse visa needs to be looked at too, and I know they are doing it now. As this californian terrorist muslim woman posted supporting ISIS crap on social media, before her entry into the US was approved. The checks have failed. It could been outdated the way they conduct it. They should simply ban any Muslims who post on the internet any support for Muslim terrorists group for a start. I think that will be fair. If they support ISIS, they support the destruction of America, they shouldn't be allowed in. Can the banks be forced by laws to track down any donation of money to terrorist organizations too? People who donated money to their cause should be banned too. The woman in the Ca attack wad vetted by 3 organizations including Homeland Security. We have to do a much better job.

BamaD -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 12:45:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Greta75 quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 So how would Trumps ban on all Muslims being stopped from entering the US work in practice ? I will have to admit that he has a lousy plan to identify Muslims. He says, immigration just have to ask them if they are Muslim. If they say no, they are not, they are allowed through. He doesn't understand that real terrorist Muslims will lie that they are Muslims especially if their plot is to infiltrate and kill. So with this plan, he haven't come up with a feasible solution to implement it yet. Personally, I would simply issue strict visa requirements to people from muslim countries. And extensive background check on each individual needs to be carried out, before approving their visas for entry. But the problem with that is, the expense and the resources, and also co-operation of THAT Muslim country to share data of their citizens. The spouse visa needs to be looked at too, and I know they are doing it now. As this californian terrorist muslim woman posted supporting ISIS crap on social media, before her entry into the US was approved. The checks have failed. It could been outdated the way they conduct it. They should simply ban any Muslims who post on the internet any support for Muslim terrorists group for a start. I think that will be fair. If they support ISIS, they support the destruction of America, they shouldn't be allowed in. Can the banks be forced by laws to track down any donation of money to terrorist organizations too? People who donated money to their cause should be banned too. It isn't Muslims he opposses, it is that ISIS has bragged about slipping terrorists in among the refugees. If they couldn't catch the Ca attacker with 3 agencies they need to improve the checks a lot before they can let them in. I think you agree with this basic premise. He said nothing about deporting Muslims who are U S citizens, or even non citizens who are already here. This is just a red herring to turn this into religious bigotry rather than a concern about security.

mnottertail -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 12:52:56 PM)
well, then what about all the white christian rightwing terrorists that are killing people by the thousands here, are we going to vet them?

BamaD -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 1:31:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail well, then what about all the white christian rightwing terrorists that are killing people by the thousands here, are we going to vet them? Since that isn't happening no.

mnottertail -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 1:33:55 PM)
Oh, but it is, even though Faux Nuze isn't reporting it. McVeigh, Dear, ad nauseam. The Klan, Lambs of God, Army of christ ad nauseam. Even though Faux Nuze isn't reporting it. Charles Barbee, Robert Berry and Jay Merelle, ad nauseam. Even though Faux Nuze isn't reporting it.

TheExploited -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 1:46:54 PM)
Nazism isn't based on Christianity. It was a nationalist movement. The National Socialist German Workers Party.

mnottertail -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 1:51:23 PM)
Overwhelmingly catholic. And out to murder jews. Yeah, no. Next we are going to hear the stupid shit that they were socialists, because it was part of their name.

TheExploited -> RE: Donald Trump Calls for Barring Muslims From Entering U.S. (12/14/2015 2:50:46 PM)
They may have been overwhelmingly Catholic but that wasn't anything to do with Nazism. I also said nationalist, not socialist. Hitler was one of a very nasty kind, not sure he fits in any mainstream politics.

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